mpiter said: In summary. I do not think I will ever use her instead of Okoye or Apocalypse except when she is boosted. Even boosted, I am not sure that I would use her because she is slow. No matter the team mates people have already suggested or I can think of, I always find better combinations. I think she will be dedicated to stay quiet on the bench.
mpiter said: After reading the whole thread so far, I think Gamora is a very useless character.To summarize what has been written so far, her red might be nice against waves but not against non-wave 5* teams at level 10. Just 10000 damages four times against characters with 100k to 200k PV for 9 Red does not seem a great bargain to me!I think her Black as currently set is terrible. No real use without bonus in the 5* world and it seems very difficult to efficiently earn the bonus. If you do not target a very strong opponent you are likely to loose the bonus because the target might be low in health after you have increased and kept the counter over 10 till the target launches his power. So it seems important to target a very strong enemy. But letting a high-level opponent to cast a power to get the bonus might mean instant death for your character or at least a health pack if you cannot tank the damage. So not only you need to keep the repeater over 10 till the target cast a power but you need to manage the effect of the enemy attack. It is too dependent on luck because AI is not reliable about when a character casts a power. It is not always done as soon as possible.Her Yellow does not seem so great to me either. Low damage, a random stun one turn out of two, and a non-fortified repeater to be protected to go through the enemy defense for 7 AP might be insufficient against Wanda and other damage reducers because most of them or their usual team mates have good firing power . Gamora has just below 70k PV at level 450. She will not survive long against Wanda & company. Finally, do not expect to stun lock any 3-character team with her Yellow. Even if you could choose the target, you would need 6 repeaters carefully set to stun lock a team. But with a random target as specified in the definition of her Yellow power, that is hopeless.In summary. I do not think I will ever use her instead of Okoye or Apocalypse except when she is boosted. Even boosted, I am not sure that I would use her because she is slow. No matter the team mates people have already suggested or I can think of, I always find better combinations. I think she will be dedicated to stay quiet on the bench.
shardwick said: Why are you using Wanda? She has less health than Gamora at 450. And it's not like Wanda at 450 can take out lots of CL 10 pve opponents on her own.
mpiter said: shardwick said: Why are you using Wanda? She has less health than Gamora at 450. And it's not like Wanda at 450 can take out lots of CL 10 pve opponents on her own. I never us Wanda. I only have her at 111 (powers). I mainly play with iHulkoye (+ Polaris for the non-essentiel nodes) or Polagritty in PVE 10.I cited Wanda for PVP because I read in this thread that Gamora was considered to be used by some people as an anti (Wanda + Colossus) or other damage reducers. It looks like her only potential use but I do not think she will be good at that either.
Bad said: In fact all about this character sounds odd:1. She was released as a collab with square. Why? Has square now rights on Disney? Is going to be like that onward? Collabs with video games. There is a new movie in theaters why there is no tie-in? Is it because they know venom is not popular or is it because teathers are not doing good nowadays? Is it because fox sony is not inside Marvel yet?2. She was released on forum without the usual week to guess it and with one power still depending on balance pass. Why.Is it because they want to hear us about her or is it because they were forced to? Too many questions in here Her black is cheap. However the chances are low on to fire it 2 times and buiding those 2 cds for a double nuke. It's cheap but actually it's slow. Hits hard but it's not a power for to buid a team for it.Her red it's a bit expensive and conditional but it's an AoE. Not sure if AoE powers are so great now as they were before. And her yellow is a total mistery. I think no one can be certain of how it will work on that damage reduction restriction. Those repeaters stunning could be really handy but their outcome on the battle will be random. The effectivenes on this power is going to be linked to the damage reduction part.
DAZ0273 said: They have never in my time playing released a character tie-in for a non Marvel MCU movie release, so nothing for Venom 2 is exactly unprecedented. They have had a few nods to other movies for example they ran Magik's pvp to coincide with The New Mutants release and I remember them running one of the X-Men pvp's when one of the X-Men movies came out (Apocalypse maybe?).
Bad said: DAZ0273 said: They have never in my time playing released a character tie-in for a non Marvel MCU movie release, so nothing for Venom 2 is exactly unprecedented. They have had a few nods to other movies for example they ran Magik's pvp to coincide with The New Mutants release and I remember them running one of the X-Men pvp's when one of the X-Men movies came out (Apocalypse maybe?). But Disney bought Fox more than one year ago.Spider's case is even stranger as we have vulture, and kingping and spider gwen multiverse when spider's rights were on sony, and after that mysterio and the elementals from their last collab.We should need a wiki- rights- pedia soon.
DAZ0273 said: Bad said: DAZ0273 said: They have never in my time playing released a character tie-in for a non Marvel MCU movie release, so nothing for Venom 2 is exactly unprecedented. They have had a few nods to other movies for example they ran Magik's pvp to coincide with The New Mutants release and I remember them running one of the X-Men pvp's when one of the X-Men movies came out (Apocalypse maybe?). But Disney bought Fox more than one year ago.Spider's case is even stranger as we have vulture, and kingping and spider gwen multiverse when spider's rights were on sony, and after that mysterio and the elementals from their last collab.We should need a wiki- rights- pedia soon. The two (soon to be three) Spider-Man films are all set in the MCU and so those characters are MCU characters not Sony-verse ones.Spider-Man: Into the SpiderVerse is an interesting outlier. I can only suspect that because Marvel had not had any animated films themselves at the time released at the cinema that they considered it could "slip through the gaps" for partner promotional purposes but they haven't chosen to allow promotion any other non MCU film properties. Edit: Additionally I guess SpiderVerse is not actually set in the established Sony-verse of movies, so perhaps that matters also.In terms of ex-Fox properties - Agatha Harkness was probably the first confirmed ex-Fox "property" to appear in a Disney/Marvel production with The Watcher following suit. I think we can probably argue that Loki has an appearance too but the character is not officially named as anybody other than "He who Remains".So moving forward, we are seeing the slow integration of ex-Fox properties and that will likely reflect in some MPQ releases but probably not for the Sony stuff.
Sekilicious said: DAZ0273 said: Bad said: DAZ0273 said: They have never in my time playing released a character tie-in for a non Marvel MCU movie release, so nothing for Venom 2 is exactly unprecedented. They have had a few nods to other movies for example they ran Magik's pvp to coincide with The New Mutants release and I remember them running one of the X-Men pvp's when one of the X-Men movies came out (Apocalypse maybe?). But Disney bought Fox more than one year ago.Spider's case is even stranger as we have vulture, and kingping and spider gwen multiverse when spider's rights were on sony, and after that mysterio and the elementals from their last collab.We should need a wiki- rights- pedia soon. The two (soon to be three) Spider-Man films are all set in the MCU and so those characters are MCU characters not Sony-verse ones.Spider-Man: Into the SpiderVerse is an interesting outlier. I can only suspect that because Marvel had not had any animated films themselves at the time released at the cinema that they considered it could "slip through the gaps" for partner promotional purposes but they haven't chosen to allow promotion any other non MCU film properties. Edit: Additionally I guess SpiderVerse is not actually set in the established Sony-verse of movies, so perhaps that matters also.In terms of ex-Fox properties - Agatha Harkness was probably the first confirmed ex-Fox "property" to appear in a Disney/Marvel production with The Watcher following suit. I think we can probably argue that Loki has an appearance too but the character is not officially named as anybody other than "He who Remains".So moving forward, we are seeing the slow integration of ex-Fox properties and that will likely reflect in some MPQ releases but probably not for the Sony stuff. Perhaps this is correct though the split between MCU and Sony-verse seems to be getting greyer with rumors of multiple Spidermen and Venom being integrated somewhere and somehow. For some reason I remember Miles and Gwen being released into the game pre-Into the Spiderverse. The only character from that would be Fatpin, though maybe you can argue Prowler was released because of the movie.
ThaRoadWarrior said: Wolfsbane came in around the time New Mutants was coming out, even though she is more of a comics accurate presentation. I would say that seems to be more the norm when non-Marvel Studios content is coming out and we get a character that feels like a tie in.i can’t recall if Cable was introduced in a timely fashion with Deadpool 2, but I think Domino was and she also looks more like the classic comic representation.