***** Odin (All-Father) *****

ThaRoadWarrior said:

That verbiage is the same as Hammercap's Yellow, so I anticipate it's behavior being the same. 

American Hero: (passive) <flavor text> Whenever the enemy team makes a match-4 or greater, Captain America jumps to the front and reduces incoming damage by 100%. Then, he creates a 5-turn countdown tile that converts 4 basic Yellow tiles in to a red or blue charged tile.

So how this behaves is that if you cycle WCap to the front and make a Match-N, he'll just eat the damage full in the face and not create the countdown. I expect Odin to behave the same as that.

I'm also expecting that AoE damage won't trigger it, because it doesn't trigger any of the other damage based Jump-in-Fronts like Thing or pre-nerf Bishop.

If it works like 4cap works then Odin is...pretty bad, I think?  He doesn't do any damage and he also doesn't seem to prevent any damage.  I guess if you need a mass tile fortifier?

He reduces damage by 20% for each colour of fortified tiles, up to 120%, to a minimum of 1. If there's zero fortified tile on the board, he simply tanks damage for his team. 

AoE will bypass his jumping in front mechanic, which is a criteria for his damage reduction mechanic. Even if there's fortified tile, he should still receive full damage as long as he doesn't jump in front.

The role of Odin is to tank big hit to buy time for his allies. Those fortified tiles which reduce damage help him to do this more often, thus dragging the match and forcing you to target him. That's probably where Ghostpool can be a good teammate because he wants the opponent to do as much damage as possible. However, if opponent deals 10k damage and there are 5 different colours of fortified tiles on the board, does Ghostpool record it as 10k damage or 1 damage?


I wonder who's going to tank 5* Colossus yellow match if you put him with Rogue/Thing/3* Deadpool. I think it was pretty buggy last time but I can't remember the exact details. Was it determined by whoever has the highest hp?

It used to be whoever had the most health took priority, but it was also bugged such that nobody would move to the front of you had multiple jump-in-fronts so I don’t know that it ever worked right.

Shuri's PvP is going to be something to behold.

BriMan2222 said:

DAZ0273 said:

Ah, that classic tale of the Edda when Heimdall did cry out to the Allfather as he did espeye afar the onrushing fury of...Hydro-Man. No wait. How does Hydro-Man make it across the Rainbow Bridge to Asgard? Did he get evaporated and then rain showered out? And they needed Odin for that? Odin fights 100 ft tall Fire Demons and giant wolves, he has no time to be fighting guys who can turn into puddles. I would probably send the fat guy from the Warriors Three, he could probably just drink Hydro-Man to wash down his 4th lunch of the day.

Man, Odin is getting no respect here, MPQ!

Based on the flavor text of the battle it seems that hydro man is meant to represent a frost giant in this fight.

Rude of Odin to ambush him on his vacation to the Bahamas.

Mmm I am going to try it again, but I think he fortified a tile that was already fortified, so it seems it is completely random ( as in, any tile is possible including the ones already fortified :S )

At least now we know he can heal himself I guess...

All in all, he doesnt seem very good. Just target some other char, and when he jumps in front you will damage him and that's it, no fortified tiles, so no blue countdown tile and no damage reduction. He has a big hitpool so that might buy some time to some other char to do some damage (like Ghostpool or Apoc) but that is it. I also dont expect his yellow to do anything if the damage comes from an AoE.

If he had some other power to create fortified tiles... 


PS: Of course, they might release another 5 in the future that can easily generate fortified tiles and do some serious damage, but I dont think that char is Heimdall (just deny blue and that team is done).

PS: My wait for a meta PvE char continues

As always, the introducing to... never lets the character a chance to shine.
He needs partners for to show his potential, there aren't.
He needs a hit of 1900, hydro is to weak...
Except his yellow power. Let hydro to get that . And you will realize:
First: odin never reduces damage. It seems that only happens when saving a partner.
And second, his blue passive in action, if AI doesn't mess the fun, each turn there are 2 or 3 healing burst, and strike tiles that when appear in a fortified tile, bring great joy.
And there he is, a great father for all, personal bodyguard and totally supporting character. 
Time will tell if he gets popularity. Not sure if the odds are high.

I think his kit is interesting and maybe even fun, but not really seeing how you extract value out of him. You have to be able to reliably get him to the front *and* stash him in the back to get the damage negation going, so ideally Odin tanks 3-4 tiles. A 5-2 split is going to be unreliable and 7-0 will obviously not work at all. I don’t see how you play him with Heimdall in pick 2, outside of im40 pvps, if Odin tanks.