Brigby said: What is everyone's opinion of mill mechanics in paper MTG, such as a Jace's Erasure combo decks? It seems like were it not for the win mechanic from milling an opponent's entire deck, then mill mechanics in paper MTG would be considered useless as well.
Brigby said:Ignoring the win mechanic, my perception of milling is that it's high-risk, high-reward where you let rng decide if the next card you mill is a measly Bellows Lizard (gets opponent closer to strong card) or a Dark Ritual. (reducing the effectiveness of their win condition)
Brigby said:When it comes to the appended cards, my understanding of their explanation is that those cards aren't accessible until the prior 40 cards are drawn or exhausted. Milling 4 copies of a card still means you need to go through the rest of the deck until you can access a new set of 4 (with the exception of fetch cards, of course)
Brigby said: (Disclaimer: I'm not a designer, nor are my comments representative of the design team)What is everyone's opinion of mill mechanics in paper MTG, such as a Jace's Erasure combo deck? It seems like were it not for the win mechanic from milling an opponent's entire deck, then mill mechanics in paper MTG would be considered useless as well.Ignoring the win mechanic, my perception of milling is that it's high-risk, high-reward where you let rng decide if the next card you mill is a measly Bellows Lizard (gets opponent closer to strong card) or a Dark Ritual. (reducing the effectiveness of their win condition)When it comes to the appended cards, my understanding of their explanation is that those cards aren't accessible until the prior 40 cards are drawn or exhausted. Milling 4 copies of a card still means you need to go through the rest of the deck until you can access a new set of 4 (with the exception of fetch cards, of course)//Edited Because Spelling -Brigby
shteev said: Ohboy said: How is everyone interpreting this a different way than I. This is the trials entry fee all over again. Brigby appears to be confirming that a deck is 40 cards, ie. You can't get 5 copies of wrath of God before the deck cycles. Actually this is laughably easy to prove for anyone has doubts and want to highlight this with solid proof instead of "this happened to me before!" . Just build a cycle deck and run a quick 40 card cycle and document what comes out, in video form if possible. Shteev, I choose you! Shteev, use science! I could, and I've thought about it, too.The thing is, tho, this isn't my job.
Ohboy said: How is everyone interpreting this a different way than I. This is the trials entry fee all over again. Brigby appears to be confirming that a deck is 40 cards, ie. You can't get 5 copies of wrath of God before the deck cycles. Actually this is laughably easy to prove for anyone has doubts and want to highlight this with solid proof instead of "this happened to me before!" . Just build a cycle deck and run a quick 40 card cycle and document what comes out, in video form if possible. Shteev, I choose you! Shteev, use science!
Brigby said: Hi Everyone. Yes. Decks are in fact maxed out at 40. There was a bug with Saheeli causing it to go to 50, but it should be fixed in 2.1When it comes to any other Planeswalkers, the development team will be sure to investigate.
hawkyh1 said: I had 5 demolish cards by my turn 3. I was playingas saheeli and cast new perspectives twice (frommemory) I exiled 3 of the 5 cards.. who wouldn't?so didn't have them all in hand at the same time.I cycled hardly any cards so would have like drawnless than 15 card at that point.(can't prove what I saw though)HH
In the Terror in the Shadows event I'm pretty sure I hit my 5th Inner Struggle quite early in the game. I was a little miffed at how kludgy the deck distribution of cards have become lately.
shteev said: hawkyh1 said: I had 5 demolish cards by my turn 3. I was playingas saheeli and cast new perspectives twice (frommemory) I exiled 3 of the 5 cards.. who wouldn't?so didn't have them all in hand at the same time.I cycled hardly any cards so would have like drawnless than 15 card at that point.(can't prove what I saw though)HH The Battlelog records how many of each card you drew. That's what I used.
span_argoman said: A fixed 40 card deck is madness in MtGPQ. 4 copies of Lost Legacy is 45%-60% of your deck gone. Liliana 1's first ability becomes vastly more damaging to both herself and the opponent. Add 4 more copies of Infinite Obliteration for another 20% of the deck gone. Forgotten Creation becomes useless among other stuff.The cards were designed with an unlimited deck in mind. Changing such a mechanic would require much more work than just tweaking deck generation parameters.