*****Spider-Man (Back in Black)*****

Looks good! FYI, Cthulu, the subject line incorrectly specifies this as a **** character when it should say ***** (both now and in the character preview earlier)

Nitpick number two: Taek-web-do lists its max level damage rather than level 255 damage for the first cover.

hello as the resident wiki nerd i'd like to point out that we typically format the character pages with their subtitles in brackets, eg Spider-Man (Back In Black)

ok anyway thanks for the rest of the info byyyyye

Initial impressions from on paper stats:

Blue:
Below Average. Looking at this character from a 5* tier perspective it's hard to get impressed by a skill that does 4000 damage and one turn stun. Especially with health pools above 40,000 and each other character having built in healing. The conditional damage is on par with Silver Surfer's red which already feels low for 5* tier play. The only thing keeping this ability from being downright poor is the synergy with OML's red passive and the fact that it's theonly active damage skill in 5* tier play.

Green:
Good. This skill delivers good damage and an impressive stun. The random nature of the stun means that players will be struggling to decide whether they optimize damage or lock down the last target given how long it takes to gather 14 green. Ignoring the effects of protect tiles is largely pointless in the current game but that could make this skill more valuable as new 5*'s are released.

Purple:
Amazing! The current 5*'s meta is all about strike tiles. OML's black strikes, red passive, and Phoenix's red strikes feel essential for overcoming high health and true healing of 5* tier. Reducing all of these things to 1 damage is HUGE in terms of buying time to gather AP and finish off your opponent.


Initial Build:
3/5/5 of 5/3/5
The blue damage is mediocre and scales rather poorly. The difference between 3 covers 6241 damage and 5 covers 8024 damage is little more than a typical tile match.

The most compelling reason to go 5/3/5 is for speed reasons. It's entirely possible 14 green is too cost prohibitive to rely on and will therefore collect dust until the end of the match (assuming it fires at all). If this skill is only being used against one player or a near death team then the difference between 3-5 covers is minimal.

Overall:
Mid-Tier. This character pairs naturally with OML and will make facing enemy OML's and Phoenix's VERY easy. Offensively speaking I'd rather use OML/Phoenix but defensively speaking I'd be more inclined to skip an enemy team with Spider-Man more than any other 5*.

It'll be interesting to play a 5* with absolutely no self healing. Actual hands on with Spider-Man could make him the worst 5* because of his lack of sustainability. His match damage is HUGE so he'll be tanking green, blue, and purple when paired with OML and Phoenix if all levels are equal. He tanks over Surfer blue as well.

Current 5* Ranking:
1) OML
2) Phoenix
3) Spider-Man
4) Silver Surfer

babinro wrote:

Note: Spider-Man's TU match damage is ONLY 68. I'm genuinely curious if this was a posting error since the others have this match damage in the hundreds. I'm inclined to think it's supposed to be 368 which would have him tanking TU's above other 5*'s as well.

That isn't TU damage, it's black damage.

I'm going to disagree with babinro and say 5/5/3 for best build. There's a lot of time that strike tiles aren't in play at all, and reducing them by 65% when they are is still a huge win. 5/5/3 maximizes damage output, and that's still the name of the game for almost all characters.

Well there goes all of the excitement at a potential 4* Nightcrawler... instead we get a character they just released 2 releases ago, and with an extra star so I'll probably never see him anyway.

fight4thedream wrote:

Just some questions regarding clarification of abilities:

For Automotive Artillery: Will the random stun aspect of this ability suffer the same issue as with Scarlet Witch's Reality Crush where the stun occurs first before the damage is dealt, potentially causing the target of attack to be stunned first before going down? (essentially wasting the stun ability)

Shadowy Acrobatics: Will stunning an enemy produce an invisibility tile which will remain after the enemy recovers from stun or is this a new invisibility mechanic where once the enemy recovers from stun and there are no stunned enemies, Spider-man becomes visible again?

Hopefully Automotive Artillery avoids the Reality Crush problem and Shadowy Acrobatics isn't wholly reliant on stuns, otherwise I will be 100% convinced either Norman Osborn or J. Jonah Jameson is secrectly funding this company. Just sayin.

The stunned character is your invisibility tile, so no nothing on the board.

I'm assuming AA will do the same as Reality crush, although Khamal interrupts the ability and allows damage to go through, then the stun so you can always pair him with her

The problem is that they have the game coded as stun/damage. This is fine when you dont' kill someone, and works to your advantage if you are facing Hulk, Cap Marvel, as they get stunned first and won't trigger the tile.

I wish they would code it damage/stun though as it makes more sense,