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  • ThisisClemFandango
    ThisisClemFandango Posts: 1,069 Chairperson of the Boards

    Can someone tell me if morbius is worth bumping to 5? I know mantis is a monster

  • Borstock
    Borstock Posts: 2,979 Chairperson of the Boards

    @ThisisClemFandango said:
    Can someone tell me if morbius is worth bumping to 5? I know mantis is a monster

    I didn't use him when he was boosted. I tried. My understanding is that others had more success than I did.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 6,841 Chairperson of the Boards

    @ThisisClemFandango said:
    Can someone tell me if morbius is worth bumping to 5? I know mantis is a monster

    He's pretty good but I don't know if he's good enough to use unboosted. It really depends what the rest of your roster looks like/what you're fighting.

  • JoeHandle
    JoeHandle Posts: 621 Critical Contributor

    @entrailbucket said:

    @ThisisClemFandango said:
    Can someone tell me if morbius is worth bumping to 5? I know mantis is a monster

    He's pretty good but I don't know if he's good enough to use unboosted. It really depends what the rest of your roster looks like/what you're fighting.

    5* match damage would get him through crashes with ease ... when he's in them once every 5yrs or whatever it is. Even a 370 flails pretty badly vs Parker.

  • kuntilanak
    kuntilanak Posts: 156 Tile Toppler

    @JoeHandle said:

    @entrailbucket said:

    @ThisisClemFandango said:
    Can someone tell me if morbius is worth bumping to 5? I know mantis is a monster

    He's pretty good but I don't know if he's good enough to use unboosted. It really depends what the rest of your roster looks like/what you're fighting.

    5* match damage would get him through crashes with ease ... when he's in them once every 5yrs or whatever it is. Even a 370 flails pretty badly vs Parker.

    Mine is near max 4*, so got his **** handed to him once a while in crash...

  • bluewolf
    bluewolf Posts: 6,244 Chairperson of the Boards

    It’s over now for at least 179 weeks or whatever the cycle ends up being, but the answer to lousy crashes because your character has poor offense is usually TM sword or Stormbreaker.

  • LavaManLee
    LavaManLee Posts: 1,676 Chairperson of the Boards

    @bluewolf said:
    It’s over now for at least 179 weeks or whatever the cycle ends up being, but the answer to lousy crashes because your character has poor offense is usually TM sword or Stormbreaker.

    And those +% damage match boosts.

  • dianetics
    dianetics Posts: 1,601 Chairperson of the Boards

    @bluewolf said:
    It’s over now for at least 179 weeks or whatever the cycle ends up being, but the answer to lousy crashes because your character has poor offense is usually TM sword or Stormbreaker.

    I use Eros Arrow.

  • Grantosium
    Grantosium Posts: 37 Just Dropped In

    Morbius' Crash seemed difficult until I redistributed covers to 3/5/5 and he was healing faster than Peter Parker could do damage. Cakewalk from there.

    My Morbius is at 284, for reference.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 6,841 Chairperson of the Boards

    @JoeHandle said:

    @entrailbucket said:

    @ThisisClemFandango said:
    Can someone tell me if morbius is worth bumping to 5? I know mantis is a monster

    He's pretty good but I don't know if he's good enough to use unboosted. It really depends what the rest of your roster looks like/what you're fighting.

    5* match damage would get him through crashes with ease ... when he's in them once every 5yrs or whatever it is. Even a 370 flails pretty badly vs Parker.

    Right, so maybe I'm answering the wrong question. If someone asks "should I ascend x guy ever?" then the answer is yes like 99% of the time -- there are exceptions but most of us probably know all of them by now.

    I tend to assume people aren't asking that anymore because most of us know the exceptions, so I tend to assume they're asking "should I prioritize x guy to ascend them over others?" That question is a little harder to answer because it depends who the others are, and what they've already got on their roster.

  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 11,315 Chairperson of the Boards

    I ascended Deathlok. I don’t care if that is a bad idea, have you seen his face?That guy deserves a break.

  • WhiteBomber
    WhiteBomber Posts: 729 Critical Contributor

    @DAZ0273 said:
    I ascended Deathlok. I don’t care if that is a bad idea, have you seen his face?That guy deserves a break.

    He was my 2nd favorited ascension. No regrets; he is basically carrying like 30 other technologists on his back.

  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,549 Chairperson of the Boards

    Just got 3* Arcade over to 5*, only my second such upgrade of a 3-to-5. He's already been mentioned, just wanted to record it for posterity. I moved my 3* over to Kamala since I have 2x 4* and her primary was furthest along of my 4* pairs.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 6,841 Chairperson of the Boards

    Base level 450, not boosted:





  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 6,841 Chairperson of the Boards

    So all the percentages get lowered quite a bit and she loses one turn on the stun (for friendly and enemy, so that might be a bit of a wash?) but the tile manipulation stuff is unchanged and the damage numbers go up. She has a ton of health for some reason, so that's a point in favor of the 5*.

    I don't think she's a must ascend but I don't think it's a huge downgrade overall.

  • Daniel2121
    Daniel2121 Posts: 280 Mover and Shaker
    edited 6 July 2025, 21:15

    Kinda bad if you asked me though... having the choice of more stun and bigger percentages is always gonna be better. And I wouldn't want her to do the tanking (which she will if she gets bigger match damage) if you screwed up the winfinite, or couldn't get it rolling on the first turn.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 6,841 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Daniel2121 said:
    Kinda bad if you asked me though... having the choice of more stun and bigger percentages is always gonna be better. And I wouldn't want her to do the tanking (which she will if she gets bigger match damage) if you screwed up the winfinite, or couldn't get it rolling on the first turn.

    What team are you using her in that takes advantage of the percentage buffs? The second yellow passive only buffs her own damage, and as a 4* it's going to be pretty meaningless.

    Why don't you want her to tank?

  • bbigler
    bbigler Posts: 2,159 Chairperson of the Boards

    Dropping from 175% to 75% Thunderbolts damage buff is a big deal. Losing a turn on the stun is disappointing too. Her 2nd yellow passive usually never happens because you have more AP. The Red AOE is OK, not great. I think she'll fall into the Aunt May category of stopping at 370.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 6,841 Chairperson of the Boards

    @bbigler said:
    Dropping from 175% to 75% Thunderbolts damage buff is a big deal. Losing a turn on the stun is disappointing too. Her 2nd yellow passive usually never happens because you have more AP. The Red AOE is OK, not great. I think she'll fall into the Aunt May category of stopping at 370.

    I think the stun is kind of a wash, because you lose a turn on the enemy stun but also on the friendly one. I suppose it depends what your team looks like, and how long you can afford to lose a teammate.

    The reduced party buff is a big deal, but it also heavily depends on your team comp. Do the infinite teams with her use other Thunderbolts?

  • Daniel2121
    Daniel2121 Posts: 280 Mover and Shaker
    edited 7 July 2025, 01:28

    @entrailbucket said:

    @Daniel2121 said:
    Kinda bad if you asked me though... having the choice of more stun and bigger percentages is always gonna be better. And I wouldn't want her to do the tanking (which she will if she gets bigger match damage) if you screwed up the winfinite, or couldn't get it rolling on the first turn.

    What team are you using her in that takes advantage of the percentage buffs? The second yellow passive only buffs her own damage, and as a 4* it's going to be pretty meaningless.

    Why don't you want her to tank?

    I'm using Taskmaster with Sniper Rifle on his black. And yeah he has the Thunderbolts affiliation so...

    I don't want her to tank because 1) in case you couldn't start the winfinite on turn 1 from not using AP boosts/supports (or just going against a Chasm where you definitely won't be using your first turn) and 2) haven't looked into this but there might be some cases where another character could get better benefits from doing the black matches (this might be support dependant).

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