Ascended Winners and Losers

@Bustapup said:

@WhiteBomber said:
I wasn't going to type and share this one, but I had to type it out just to compare the numbers and figure things out, so here ya go. The bottom copy of info is the 5star numbers, if there is no copy, there is no change:

Betsy B 4-5

Level 370 - 457
Health: 28,659 - 76,672

Red:

• 4AP: Match = +1AP and 120% per mut or exc
• 4AP: Match = +1AP and 80% per mut or exc
• Passive: Every 3AP in strongest increase her match by 130% (max 780) and ability by 75% (max 450)
• Passive: Every 3AP in strongest increase her match by 80% (max 480) and ability by 25% (max 150)

Yella:

• 5AP: 3 turn CD deals damage total protect tiles per hit
• Passive: Create 1009 protect up to number of muts
• Passive: Create 2254 protect up to number of muts

Pink:

• 8AP: Improve protects by 635 for each Excali then damage team for total protect strength
• 8AP: Improve protects by 1128 for each Excali then damage team for total protect strength
• Passive: Protects +100% while in front

There are a couple teams where she makes an amazing support (and the protects come from elsewhere), that I could see leaving her at 4 since her ability increase drops by 300% (why??) causing her Pink so suffer greatly. See: Magik4, MultiMan, Nico, Spidermay etc.

However (Bucket)! Most of the time you want her to tank to get the protect increase, plus the health and match damage increase so worth the ascension, I just don't know about chasing her over others (if you have top tiers to ascend still).

I still very much like this character, wish they didn't nerf her percentages so much, but still coo.

I'm torn. I use her a lot and she is good to counter omega teams with kitty and Colossus but she's too squishy.....do I want to make her more survivable and lose that massive damage bonus? 😵‍💫

If you are using her in PVP there is almost no way you would leave her at 4.

I only see 2 reasons to leave her at 4: You have other 4 stars you want to ascend first, or you are only using her on an offensive team that easily dumps out big protects and nets a decent amount of pink AP. I'm working on Blob and then Northstar, after them, I personally will likely be prioritizing her.

If you have Magik4, MultiMan4, Beast4, VenomApril3 ascended, they are super hott for Betsy. VenomApril gets very good at 5, as an FYI for this thread.

That being said, there are easier / healthier ways to destroy Red. If she just started the match with her first protect tile, it would honestly make her quite a bit better.

......... What does "hott" mean?

Yes, I'm old.

@Mxm23 said:
Is there a database or website where I can see the stats and powers of ascended characters?
Could someone tell me if there are any changes to the powers of the ascended Juggernaut (fear itself)?

Yes he becomes even more awesome! Not sure about his blue, nobody ever uses him for hammer time.

@Borstock said:
Breaker costs 11.

At 3 covers: Destroys a random column and 4 random tiles

At 4 covers: Destroys a random column and 10 random tiles

At 5 covers: Destroys a CHOSEN column and 10 random tiles.

I've tried many times to create a crazy board shake team built around his blue. It's fun when it works, but obviously not as reliable as the meta uses.

The blue is a thing?

@dianetics said:

@Borstock said:
Breaker costs 11.

At 3 covers: Destroys a random column and 4 random tiles

At 4 covers: Destroys a random column and 10 random tiles

At 5 covers: Destroys a CHOSEN column and 10 random tiles.

I've tried many times to create a crazy board shake team built around his blue. It's fun when it works, but obviously not as reliable as the meta uses.

The blue is a thing?

There's some shenanigans to be had when you can shake shake shake dat board.

@Borstock said:
Breaker costs 11.

At 3 covers: Destroys a random column and 4 random tiles

At 4 covers: Destroys a random column and 10 random tiles

At 5 covers: Destroys a CHOSEN column and 10 random tiles.

I've tried many times to create a crazy board shake team built around his blue. It's fun when it works, but obviously not as reliable as the meta uses.

Crazy board shake only occurs when the AI uses it, or any similar powers/ characters for that matter...

3a5 Nova (Richard Rider) lv450

RED: 6 AP
3 covers: 9795 damage. If Worldmind tile exists, 6053 enemy team damage & create 2 x 267 Attack tiles
4 covers: 10680 damage. If Worldmind tile exists, 6766 enemy team damage & create 2 x 445 Attack tiles
5 covers: 14242 damage. If Worldmind tile exists, 8902 enemy team damage & create 2 x 490 Attack tiles

YELLOW: 5 AP
3 covers: Create 3 x 401 Protect tiles. If Worldmind tile exists, increase Protect tiles by 20% & heal team for 5698
4 covers: Create 3 x 446 Protect tiles. If Worldmind tile exists, increase Protect tiles by 25% & heal team for 6052
5 covers: Create 4 x 490 Protect tiles. If Worldmind tile exists, increase Protect tiles by 40% & heal team for 6411

BLACK: 4 AP
3 covers: 3-turn Worldmind tile that increases Nova's damage by 60%. When tile expires or is destroyed, Nova gains a burst of 3560 health
4 covers: 4-turn Worldmind tile that increases Nova's damage by 70%. When tile expires or is destroyed, Nova gains a burst of 3918 health
5 covers: 4-turn Worldmind tile that increases Nova's damage by 90%. When tile expires or is destroyed, Nova gains a burst of 4274 health

Same as the base 3* : you need 4 Black AP in addition to Red and Yellow to get the most out of him. If his Worldmind tile generated Black AP upon expiry or destruction he'd be much better; as it is, 5* Nova is overall still better as he can proc his Nova Corps countdowns passively, has useful passives, and has much more synergy with the usual Countdown people like Hawkeye, Coulson, Kang, Hobgoblin

@entrailbucket said:
I 550d 4* Carol and found a really fun team. I'm not sure it'll work for anyone else, but it's worth putting out there! I used this all the way through on Shield Sim last season.

It's Carol/Coulson/5* Riri. You need to put either Battleworld Map or Low Level AI on Carol, Refreshment Cart on Coulson, and Atlantis/Yaro Root on Riri. Cast Riri stun on your first turn and watch your strike tile get buffed to insanity, while you build AP for another stun! You can use Carol's yellow to get rid of the Riri cool down CD, and generate even more CD tiles, for more buffs.

I was able to beat everything I saw unless they cascaded me before I got a turn. I also got a few wipes!

That's brutal. I love it!