Ascended Winners and Losers

WhiteBomber · 6 May 2025, 18:14

@Bustapup said:

@WhiteBomber said:
I wasn't going to type and share this one, but I had to type it out just to compare the numbers and figure things out, so here ya go. The bottom copy of info is the 5star numbers, if there is no copy, there is no change:

Betsy B 4-5

Level 370 - 457
Health: 28,659 - 76,672

Red:

4AP: Match = +1AP and 120% per mut or exc

4AP: Match = +1AP and 80% per mut or exc

Passive: Every 3AP in strongest increase her match by 130% (max 780) and ability by 75% (max 450)

Passive: Every 3AP in strongest increase her match by 80% (max 480) and ability by 25% (max 150)

Yella:

5AP: 3 turn CD deals damage total protect tiles per hit

Passive: Create 1009 protect up to number of muts

Passive: Create 2254 protect up to number of muts

Pink:

8AP: Improve protects by 635 for each Excali then damage team for total protect strength

8AP: Improve protects by 1128 for each Excali then damage team for total protect strength

Passive: Protects +100% while in front

There are a couple teams where she makes an amazing support (and the protects come from elsewhere), that I could see leaving her at 4 since her ability increase drops by 300% (why??) causing her Pink so suffer greatly. See: Magik4, MultiMan, Nico, Spidermay etc.

However (Bucket)! Most of the time you want her to tank to get the protect increase, plus the health and match damage increase so worth the ascension, I just don't know about chasing her over others (if you have top tiers to ascend still).

I still very much like this character, wish they didn't nerf her percentages so much, but still coo.

I'm torn. I use her a lot and she is good to counter omega teams with kitty and Colossus but she's too squishy.....do I want to make her more survivable and lose that massive damage bonus? 😵‍💫

If you are using her in PVP there is almost no way you would leave her at 4.

I only see 2 reasons to leave her at 4: You have other 4 stars you want to ascend first, or you are only using her on an offensive team that easily dumps out big protects and nets a decent amount of pink AP. I'm working on Blob and then Northstar, after them, I personally will likely be prioritizing her.

If you have Magik4, MultiMan4, Beast4, VenomApril3 ascended, they are super hott for Betsy. VenomApril gets very good at 5, as an FYI for this thread.

That being said, there are easier / healthier ways to destroy Red. If she just started the match with her first protect tile, it would honestly make her quite a bit better.

WhiteBomber · 6 May 2025, 18:19

Also, since HoneyBadger is so hott right now, my prediction is that Mephisto3 will ascend better than his 5 star variant. Pair him with Badger and watch the magic happen. So fun, and an excellent defensive team that punishes AP gain. It's a damn shame it takes average players years to get 3stars up.

Blackstone · 7 May 2025, 01:37

......... What does "hott" mean?

Yes, I'm old.

WhiteBomber · 8 May 2025, 00:48

@Blackstone said:
......... What does "hott" mean?

Yes, I'm old.

It shares the same slang definition as "hot", but with an extra T to really sell it. As for "hot", it basically means "desirable", "sexy", "preferable", "in / relevant".

Below are some pictures to illustrate:

entrailbucket · 9 May 2025, 17:55

If you like Prowler (and you should!) here's another fun one to ascend (base lvl491, boosted to lvl611):

Sadly she can't equip Tinkerer herself but I'm sure you can find someone who can!

Mxm23 · 16 May 2025, 11:16

Is there a database or website where I can see the stats and powers of ascended characters?
Could someone tell me if there are any changes to the powers of the ascended Juggernaut (fear itself)?

DAZ0273 · 16 May 2025, 12:29

@Mxm23 said:
Is there a database or website where I can see the stats and powers of ascended characters?
Could someone tell me if there are any changes to the powers of the ascended Juggernaut (fear itself)?

Yes he becomes even more awesome! Not sure about his blue, nobody ever uses him for hammer time.

Borstock · 16 May 2025, 14:23

Breaker costs 11.

At 3 covers: Destroys a random column and 4 random tiles

At 4 covers: Destroys a random column and 10 random tiles

At 5 covers: Destroys a CHOSEN column and 10 random tiles.

I've tried many times to create a crazy board shake team built around his blue. It's fun when it works, but obviously not as reliable as the meta uses.

dianetics · 16 May 2025, 17:18

@Borstock said:
Breaker costs 11.

At 3 covers: Destroys a random column and 4 random tiles

At 4 covers: Destroys a random column and 10 random tiles

At 5 covers: Destroys a CHOSEN column and 10 random tiles.

I've tried many times to create a crazy board shake team built around his blue. It's fun when it works, but obviously not as reliable as the meta uses.

The blue is a thing?

rainkingucd · 16 May 2025, 18:26

@dianetics said:

@Borstock said:
Breaker costs 11.

At 3 covers: Destroys a random column and 4 random tiles

At 4 covers: Destroys a random column and 10 random tiles

At 5 covers: Destroys a CHOSEN column and 10 random tiles.

I've tried many times to create a crazy board shake team built around his blue. It's fun when it works, but obviously not as reliable as the meta uses.

The blue is a thing?

Yes but it only works when he blues himself

Borstock · 16 May 2025, 19:58

@dianetics said:

@Borstock said:
Breaker costs 11.

At 3 covers: Destroys a random column and 4 random tiles

At 4 covers: Destroys a random column and 10 random tiles

At 5 covers: Destroys a CHOSEN column and 10 random tiles.

I've tried many times to create a crazy board shake team built around his blue. It's fun when it works, but obviously not as reliable as the meta uses.

The blue is a thing?

There's some shenanigans to be had when you can shake shake shake dat board.

StillMonsoon3 · 17 May 2025, 16:18

@rainkingucd said:

@dianetics said:

@Borstock said:
Breaker costs 11.

At 3 covers: Destroys a random column and 4 random tiles

At 4 covers: Destroys a random column and 10 random tiles

At 5 covers: Destroys a CHOSEN column and 10 random tiles.

I've tried many times to create a crazy board shake team built around his blue. It's fun when it works, but obviously not as reliable as the meta uses.

The blue is a thing?

Yes but it only works when he blues himself

I always enjoy references to the world's first Analyst/Therapist....(If you know, you know).

kuntilanak · 18 May 2025, 01:25

@Borstock said:
Breaker costs 11.

At 3 covers: Destroys a random column and 4 random tiles

At 4 covers: Destroys a random column and 10 random tiles

At 5 covers: Destroys a CHOSEN column and 10 random tiles.

I've tried many times to create a crazy board shake team built around his blue. It's fun when it works, but obviously not as reliable as the meta uses.

Crazy board shake only occurs when the AI uses it, or any similar powers/ characters for that matter...

ThaRoadWarrior · 18 May 2025, 22:53

I use my ascended juggernaut (5* power stone) with ascended rocket (pizza dog support) and ascended Polaris (low level ai) for easy mode clearing all of SC10 PVE. He is one of the most ascendable characters if you’re on the fence about it.

entrailbucket · 18 May 2025, 23:31

Daredevil @450 no boost:

bluewolf · 19 May 2025, 13:40

@ThaRoadWarrior said:
I use my ascended juggernaut (5* power stone) with ascended rocket (pizza dog support) and ascended Polaris (low level ai) for easy mode clearing all of SC10 PVE. He is one of the most ascendable characters if you’re on the fence about it.

If you had to ascend one single 4 and couldn’t ascend any other one, Juggs would be the one. Especially now with Sam but even without him you can blast through most pve pick 3 content using 3-4 may, Jugg and 3 Namor faster than most other teams most weeks.

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