Agatha Harkness (Coven Leader) 5*

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  • LavaManLee
    LavaManLee Posts: 1,598 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited September 2024

    It's hard to describe how fun Agatha is to have on your team. There are many different ways to play her and it just depends on who you team her with and what your preference is. I was running her 5/3/5 thinking her blue was just ok but it is WAY better than ok, IMHO. I've switched to 3/5/5 and see how that goes.

    Also, for any who thought she wouldn't get really good at higher levels, she does. Especially when boosted (which goes without saying). That blue can hit like a ton of bricks. And if she tanks and has Fantasticar on, she can fire her blue and keep hitting, and hitting and hitting....

  • Jinx
    Jinx Posts: 295 Mover and Shaker

    Absolutely love this character. She is so much fun. Started her with Apoc and brb and it was fun and effective, but once I figured out matches don’t do damage with her purple repeaters , I switched to Math or and Colossus and it’s my favorite team.

  • slidecage
    slidecage Posts: 3,563 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited September 2024

    went a little nuts had 22822 co down to 19747

    witch went from 101 to 335 11 covers i max later
    s witch went from 456 to 467
    doom 452 to 457

    25 covers total too bad wasnt more ag

    3075 cp spent 123 pulls for 25 covers = ouch 5 %

  • Scofie
    Scofie GLOBAL_MODERATORS Posts: 1,525 Chairperson of the Boards

    @slidecage said:
    went a little nuts had 22822 co down to 19747

    witch went from 101 to 335 11 covers i max later
    s witch went from 456 to 467
    doom 452 to 457

    25 covers total too bad wasnt more ag

    3075 cp spent 123 pulls for 25 covers = ouch 5 %

    That's more than 1 in 5 so over 20%?

  • bluewolf
    bluewolf Posts: 6,059 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Jinx said:
    I switched to Math or and Colossus and it’s my favorite team.

    Slidecage should have used some of that math Jinx is so excited about.

  • Scofie
    Scofie GLOBAL_MODERATORS Posts: 1,525 Chairperson of the Boards

    @bluewolf said:

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    Slidecage should have used some of that math Jinx is so excited about.

    🤣 I got 2 out of 18 pulls so less than average, but 5 of the 4* pulls led to a champ level for other 5s. I'll take that.

  • tonypq
    tonypq Posts: 557 Critical Contributor
    edited September 2024

    When teammates make matches, it doesn't seem to show the increase in their match damage from her yellow when clicking the character portrait I noticed.

    Is there a certain go to support everyone's using for her ?

  • slidecage
    slidecage Posts: 3,563 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Scofie said:

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    That's more than 1 in 5 so over 20%?

    Guess so I probably get her up to 13 covers when she goes into ll ... 9 covers not bad. Could really not used the 11 witch covers. I don't think I even use witch anymore . Then again could be worse and ended with 5 like doom

    I think she is like 335. 5 on yellow

  • bluewolf
    bluewolf Posts: 6,059 Chairperson of the Boards

    @tonypq said:
    When teammates make matches, it doesn't seem to show the increase in their match damage from her yellow when clicking the character portrait I noticed.

    Is there a certain go to support everyone's using for her ?

    This seems to be common when characters are boosted dynamically in match by some effect, regardless of who it is. See also: Implanted Bomb.

    I don’t know that there’s a specific support exactly, but purple AP is extremely useful, so maybe Quantum Realm.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 6,483 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited September 2024

    Seems like Agatha is very highly regarded.

    I'll ask the dumb question -- is she good enough to replace any of the current "meta" characters? Which ones, and how?

    Edit: for an awful lot of folks this isn't a "dumb" question at all, and I don't mean to put them down. In fact it's probably the most important question for many of you! It feels weird just asking it, though, and I don't know how meaningfully I can contribute to the discussion.

  • slidecage
    slidecage Posts: 3,563 Chairperson of the Boards

    @entrailbucket said:
    Seems like Agatha is very highly regarded.

    I'll ask the dumb question -- is she good enough to replace any of the current "meta" characters? Which ones, and how?

    Who is meta now

    Guessing
    5 star aunt may
    Mthor
    Not sure who else

  • Borstock
    Borstock Posts: 2,891 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited September 2024

    @slidecage said:

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    Who is meta now

    Guessing
    5 star aunt may
    Mthor
    Not sure who else

    Depends on your definition of meta. Answers seem to vary fairly wildly. Personally, though she's my favorite character in the game, and is used a lot, I don't consider mThor meta. 🤷

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 6,483 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited September 2024

    @Borstock said:

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    Depends on your definition of meta. Answers seem to vary fairly wildly. Personally, though she's my favorite character in the game, and is used a lot, I don't consider mThor meta. 🤷

    I always quote it because it's not an adjective, and I agree that the definition is pretty squishy.

    The idea is the group of characters that have the highest representation in the metagame, which has generally evolved to mean those that are both usable and also widely used when unboosted.

  • dianetics
    dianetics Posts: 1,749 Chairperson of the Boards

    @entrailbucket said:
    Seems like Agatha is very highly regarded.

    I'll ask the dumb question -- is she good enough to replace any of the current "meta" characters? Which ones, and how?

    Edit: for an awful lot of folks this isn't a "dumb" question at all, and I don't mean to put them down. In fact it's probably the most important question for many of you! It feels weird just asking it, though, and I don't know how meaningfully I can contribute to the discussion.

    Think about partners she could bring back to the front.
    If you run her and Col5 against ShangThor you will likely win all the time.
    She gives many different characters a chance to jump up.

    She is a A tier partner that will give many different characters a chance to win.

    If you play it right you can win often on turn 1 or 2.

    We will see how she is after she is no longer boosted...but she is looking great.

  • WilliamK1983
    WilliamK1983 Posts: 1,098 Chairperson of the Boards

    Oh she plays unboosted. Took Agatha(454), Colossus(478), and mthor(508) into shield sim. Played as much a variety as I could and lost once in seven quick matches. Lost to a 550 OR and Chasm with 370 3* Aunt May, which I expected just not as quickly as it happened. Couple got a tad bit dicey, but that was more my fault for not paying attention to the AI's ap and kept getting myself stunned by Polaris in one and Riri in another.

  • Jinx
    Jinx Posts: 295 Mover and Shaker

    @bluewolf said:

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    Slidecage should have used some of that math Jinx is so excited about.

    Oops. Got auto corrected. Meant Mthor

  • Jinx
    Jinx Posts: 295 Mover and Shaker

    @entrailbucket said:
    Seems like Agatha is very highly regarded.

    I'll ask the dumb question -- is she good enough to replace any of the current "meta" characters? Which ones, and how?

    Edit: for an awful lot of folks this isn't a "dumb" question at all, and I don't mean to put them down. In fact it's probably the most important question for many of you! It feels weird just asking it, though, and I don't know how meaningfully I can contribute to the discussion.

    She is 100% meta. Best character to pair with any team that has high match damage and has a chance at cascades. (Hence the Colossus/Mthor pairing) Would be good with Juggs/Grocket, but wouldn’t caved as many colors. Always looking for new suggestions though.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 6,483 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Jinx said:

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    She is 100% meta. Best character to pair with any team that has high match damage and has a chance at cascades. (Hence the Colossus/Mthor pairing) Would be good with Juggs/Grocket, but wouldn’t caved as many colors. Always looking for new suggestions though.

    Is she just a third with those pairs in pick-3, or would she, say, replace Shang-Chi (or m'Thor?) in the m'Thor/Shang-Chi pick-2 team?

    If someone new is going to be widely used, they'll have to push someone old out!

  • Kross
    Kross Posts: 149 Tile Toppler

    Has anyone made a (the) definitive post on how (multiple ways) to use her? She still seems confusing to me.

  • bluewolf
    bluewolf Posts: 6,059 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Jinx said:

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    Oops. Got auto corrected. Meant Mthor

    I figured, but everything lined up so perfectly.

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