Agatha Harkness (Coven Leader) 5*

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  • bluewolf
    bluewolf Posts: 5,816 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Wolvie171 said:
    I'm guessing the increased odds for 3* Agatha did not end because the next release was a 2* (for Headpool) instead of the usual 4*. If that's the case, chuck this as a one-off as things should return to normal next season.

    Possibly?

    I can see how they might decide to give us a hand on new 3s, to help with dilution, by making them more likely for 4 weeks.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 5,820 Chairperson of the Boards

    They probably just forgot to turn off the increased odds.

  • Wolvie171
    Wolvie171 Posts: 206 Tile Toppler

    Honestly, it could be any one or all of these possibilities. Since we may never get a direct answer, it's all conjecture.

    I'm all for extending the timeframe of the increased odds, to help with dilution and such, but that also runs counter to their offers to sell more covers of the new releases. Who knows lol

  • dianetics
    dianetics Posts: 1,640 Chairperson of the Boards

    This is a bit crazy. I was going to post a turn 0 win with her, but we can no longer post video on the forums.

    Agatha and her blue is broken. I have turn 0'd 5 times with my opponents all being god boosted.
    With the right supports and team comp you will almost always gain enough ap to blow out the enemy on turn 1 or 2.

  • GrimSkald
    GrimSkald Posts: 2,639 Chairperson of the Boards

    @dianetics said:
    This is a bit crazy. I was going to post a turn 0 win with her, but we can no longer post video on the forums.

    Agatha and her blue is broken. I have turn 0'd 5 times with my opponents all being god boosted.
    With the right supports and team comp you will almost always gain enough ap to blow out the enemy on turn 1 or 2.

    I seem to rarely get a match-3 straight out the gate with her blue power. Even firing it twice seems to get me AP only like half the time. It almost always sets up a match, but then the turn moves on, so that's not winfinite.

    Even with 9 blue AP (is that even possible?) I think you're not going to get a first turn blue AP without a match a significant amount of the time.

  • dianetics
    dianetics Posts: 1,640 Chairperson of the Boards

    @GrimSkald said:

    @dianetics said:
    This is a bit crazy. I was going to post a turn 0 win with her, but we can no longer post video on the forums.

    Agatha and her blue is broken. I have turn 0'd 5 times with my opponents all being god boosted.
    With the right supports and team comp you will almost always gain enough ap to blow out the enemy on turn 1 or 2.

    I seem to rarely get a match-3 straight out the gate with her blue power. Even firing it twice seems to get me AP only like half the time. It almost always sets up a match, but then the turn moves on, so that's not winfinite.

    Even with 9 blue AP (is that even possible?) I think you're not going to get a first turn blue AP without a match a significant amount of the time.

    I can fire it twice first turn. I have recorded 3 first turn wins and 3 2nd turns wins. The team I am using doesn't seem to go past 4 turns. I have no defensive wins though. So there is that

  • slidecage
    slidecage Posts: 3,447 Chairperson of the Boards

    @dianetics said:
    This is a bit crazy. I was going to post a turn 0 win with her, but we can no longer post video on the forums.

    Agatha and her blue is broken. I have turn 0'd 5 times with my opponents all being god boosted.
    With the right supports and team comp you will almost always gain enough ap to blow out the enemy on turn 1 or 2.

    And what supports are those 😂

    Really though I spent around 2400 cp to get them to 13 cover used them a few times and went right back to 5 star aunt may and Emma. Helps my may getting up to 520

  • dianetics
    dianetics Posts: 1,640 Chairperson of the Boards

    @slidecage said:
    And what supports are those 😂

    Really though I spent around 2400 cp to get them to 13 cover used them a few times and went right back to 5 star aunt may and Emma. Helps my may getting up to 520

    It depends on the required character on your team for support composition.

  • Daredevil217
    Daredevil217 Posts: 3,965 Chairperson of the Boards

    So it doesn’t work for pick-2? I’m still liking for a good pick 2 for the 5* essential node.

  • dianetics
    dianetics Posts: 1,640 Chairperson of the Boards

    It does work, just don't expect defensive wins.

  • Borstock
    Borstock Posts: 2,733 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited 20 October 2024, 18:10

    @dianetics said:
    It does work, just don't expect defensive wins.

    Defensive wins aren't a huge factor in PvE.

  • dianetics
    dianetics Posts: 1,640 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Borstock said:

    Defensive wins aren't a huge factor in PvE.

    I'm talking about first turns infinite for PvP. I'm not really using her yet in PvE.

  • Borstock
    Borstock Posts: 2,733 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited 20 October 2024, 22:29

    @dianetics said:

    @Borstock said:

    Defensive wins aren't a huge factor in PvE.

    I'm talking about first turns infinite for PvP. I'm not really using her yet in PvE.

    I understand, but Daredevil, to whom you replied, was talking about pick-2 in PvE.

    Daredevil, I've used her a little in PvE. She's effective, but there are faster teams than ones based around Agatha.

  • Daredevil217
    Daredevil217 Posts: 3,965 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Borstock said:

    @dianetics said:

    @Borstock said:

    Defensive wins aren't a huge factor in PvE.

    I'm talking about first turns infinite for PvP. I'm not really using her yet in PvE.

    I understand, but Daredevil, to whom you replied, was talking about pick-2 in PvE.

    Daredevil, I've used her a little in PvE. She's effective, but there are faster teams than ones based around Agatha.

    I appreciate that. PVP, it’s mostly god boosted characters every week that I see personally. I’m curious about the Agatha team that disposes of them in two turns because I imagine health pools are similar in pve. Although now that I think about it they may be bigger in pve.

  • Nibby
    Nibby Posts: 36 Just Dropped In
    edited 21 October 2024, 20:27

    I just champed her and now I'm wondering if she should have stayed at level 250? Do you guys keep her underleveled or do you champ her?

  • dianetics
    dianetics Posts: 1,640 Chairperson of the Boards

    she is very versatile.
    you need to figure out where she fits in your roster.

  • Borstock
    Borstock Posts: 2,733 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Nibby said:
    I just champed her and now I'm wondering if she should have stayed at level 250? Do you guys keep her underleveled or do you champ her?

    Totally depends on your roster and how you choose to deploy her, but I champed her and I'm happy I did.

  • GrimSkald
    GrimSkald Posts: 2,639 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Borstock said:

    @Nibby said:
    I just champed her and now I'm wondering if she should have stayed at level 250? Do you guys keep her underleveled or do you champ her?

    Totally depends on your roster and how you choose to deploy her, but I champed her and I'm happy I did.

    She works best when she doesn't tank, but her blue and purple absolutely go up in power with levels and they're both worth using, particularly with certain teams.

    Ideally you can put her with someone who tanks her colors over her, but I wouldn't say she's actually bad when she tanks, just not optimal.

  • Borstock
    Borstock Posts: 2,733 Chairperson of the Boards

    @GrimSkald said:

    @Borstock said:

    @Nibby said:
    I just champed her and now I'm wondering if she should have stayed at level 250? Do you guys keep her underleveled or do you champ her?

    Totally depends on your roster and how you choose to deploy her, but I champed her and I'm happy I did.

    She works best when she doesn't tank, but her blue and purple absolutely go up in power with levels and they're both worth using, particularly with certain teams.

    Ideally you can put her with someone who tanks her colors over her, but I wouldn't say she's actually bad when she tanks, just not optimal.

    Your roster is beyond mine, so a baby champ isn't going to butt up much against my 550 4a5 Juggernaut. But, yes, she can be played different ways and how high you want her will depend on your choice and roster.

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