Agatha Harkness (Coven Leader) 5*

bluewolf

No, new margarine.

The old stuff is getting moldy.

Painmonger

@Domitronas said:
I think this can all be fixed with something that starts with "new" and end with "gine"

Newfoundland Aubergine? Are we getting a new tile color?

JediJones77

The Heroic, Elite and Mighty tokens on the Recruit tab all still say "Featuring Agatha Harkness (Governess)" on them. Normally this tagline should've disappeared Thursday morning. It only lasts for two weeks for each new 3-star character. But for some reason, it's still there. Clicking into the pool still shows the increased odds tag on Agatha.

So, did something change? Are the increased odds now going to last for longer than two weeks in these tokens? Is this just a mistake, and they should've been taken away by now? Or, the worst case scenario, is this merely a visual bug, and the increased odds are not actually happening right now?

GrimSkald

@JediJones77 said:
The Heroic, Elite and Mighty tokens on the Recruit tab all still say "Featuring Agatha Harkness (Governess)" on them. Normally this tagline should've disappeared Thursday morning. It only lasts for two weeks for each new 3-star character. But for some reason, it's still there. Clicking into the pool still shows the increased odds tag on Agatha.

So, did something change? Are the increased odds now going to last for longer than two weeks in these tokens? Is this just a mistake, and they should've been taken away by now? Or, the worst case scenario, is this merely a visual bug, and the increased odds are not actually happening right now?

I've been pulling all weekend and I think that the odds are still increased. This is unscientific, but I definitely seem to be pulling more Agatha than the normal odds would have.

JediJones77

If the new norm is to keep the bonus pulls for the new 3-star running continuously, then that's probably a good thing. It'll make it easier to build up that character. Although, it will slow down pulling of older characters.

bluewolf

@JediJones77 said:
If the new norm is to keep the bonus pulls for the new 3-star running continuously, then that's probably a good thing. It'll make it easier to build up that character. Although, it will slow down pulling of older characters.

While this is true....dilution is getting quite bad, and as far as older characters go, your best bet is to utilize favoriting them vs hoping that you hit that 1/71 pulls you need.

I assume this continued weighting is intentional.....I mean mistakes have happened before, but the length of time on this is kind of making me think its intended.

GrimSkald

@bluewolf said:

@JediJones77 said:
If the new norm is to keep the bonus pulls for the new 3-star running continuously, then that's probably a good thing. It'll make it easier to build up that character. Although, it will slow down pulling of older characters.

While this is true....dilution is getting quite bad, and as far as older characters go, your best bet is to utilize favoriting them vs hoping that you hit that 1/71 pulls you need.

I assume this continued weighting is intentional.....I mean mistakes have happened before, but the length of time on this is kind of making me think its intended.

It will change over to the new one a week from Thursday, unless they decide to do only a 5★ instead of a 5/3★ release. But they haven't done that for a long time, and it's pretty clear that was an outlier.

bluewolf

@GrimSkald said:

@bluewolf said:

@JediJones77 said:
If the new norm is to keep the bonus pulls for the new 3-star running continuously, then that's probably a good thing. It'll make it easier to build up that character. Although, it will slow down pulling of older characters.

While this is true....dilution is getting quite bad, and as far as older characters go, your best bet is to utilize favoriting them vs hoping that you hit that 1/71 pulls you need.

I assume this continued weighting is intentional.....I mean mistakes have happened before, but the length of time on this is kind of making me think its intended.

It will change over to the new one a week from Thursday, unless they decide to do only a 5★ instead of a 5/3★ release. But they haven't done that for a long time, and it's pretty clear that was an outlier.

The What's New MPQ thread shows that the next release is, indeed, a 3/5, as every one has been since......well, basically September 2022 when Emma was released, although they didn't pair 3/5s every time until Kang in Feb 2023 firmly established the practice.

Wolvie171

I'm guessing the increased odds for 3* Agatha did not end because the next release was a 2* (for Headpool) instead of the usual 4*. If that's the case, chuck this as a one-off as things should return to normal next season.

bluewolf

@Wolvie171 said:
I'm guessing the increased odds for 3* Agatha did not end because the next release was a 2* (for Headpool) instead of the usual 4*. If that's the case, chuck this as a one-off as things should return to normal next season.

Possibly?

I can see how they might decide to give us a hand on new 3s, to help with dilution, by making them more likely for 4 weeks.

entrailbucket

They probably just forgot to turn off the increased odds.

Wolvie171

Honestly, it could be any one or all of these possibilities. Since we may never get a direct answer, it's all conjecture.

I'm all for extending the timeframe of the increased odds, to help with dilution and such, but that also runs counter to their offers to sell more covers of the new releases. Who knows lol

GrimSkald

@dianetics said:
This is a bit crazy. I was going to post a turn 0 win with her, but we can no longer post video on the forums.

Agatha and her blue is broken. I have turn 0'd 5 times with my opponents all being god boosted.
With the right supports and team comp you will almost always gain enough ap to blow out the enemy on turn 1 or 2.

I seem to rarely get a match-3 straight out the gate with her blue power. Even firing it twice seems to get me AP only like half the time. It almost always sets up a match, but then the turn moves on, so that's not winfinite.

Even with 9 blue AP (is that even possible?) I think you're not going to get a first turn blue AP without a match a significant amount of the time.

slidecage

@dianetics said:
This is a bit crazy. I was going to post a turn 0 win with her, but we can no longer post video on the forums.

Agatha and her blue is broken. I have turn 0'd 5 times with my opponents all being god boosted.
With the right supports and team comp you will almost always gain enough ap to blow out the enemy on turn 1 or 2.

And what supports are those 😂

Really though I spent around 2400 cp to get them to 13 cover used them a few times and went right back to 5 star aunt may and Emma. Helps my may getting up to 520

Daredevil217

So it doesn’t work for pick-2? I’m still liking for a good pick 2 for the 5* essential node.

Borstock

@dianetics said:
It does work, just don't expect defensive wins.

Defensive wins aren't a huge factor in PvE.

Borstock

@dianetics said:

@Borstock said:

Defensive wins aren't a huge factor in PvE.

I'm talking about first turns infinite for PvP. I'm not really using her yet in PvE.

I understand, but Daredevil, to whom you replied, was talking about pick-2 in PvE.

Daredevil, I've used her a little in PvE. She's effective, but there are faster teams than ones based around Agatha.

Daredevil217

@Borstock said:

@dianetics said:

@Borstock said:

Defensive wins aren't a huge factor in PvE.

I'm talking about first turns infinite for PvP. I'm not really using her yet in PvE.

I understand, but Daredevil, to whom you replied, was talking about pick-2 in PvE.

Daredevil, I've used her a little in PvE. She's effective, but there are faster teams than ones based around Agatha.

I appreciate that. PVP, it’s mostly god boosted characters every week that I see personally. I’m curious about the Agatha team that disposes of them in two turns because I imagine health pools are similar in pve. Although now that I think about it they may be bigger in pve.

Nibby

I just champed her and now I'm wondering if she should have stayed at level 250? Do you guys keep her underleveled or do you champ her?

Borstock

@Nibby said:
I just champed her and now I'm wondering if she should have stayed at level 250? Do you guys keep her underleveled or do you champ her?

Totally depends on your roster and how you choose to deploy her, but I champed her and I'm happy I did.