Agatha Harkness (Coven Leader) 5*

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  • Jinx
    Jinx Posts: 295 Mover and Shaker

    Absolutely love this character. She is so much fun. Started her with Apoc and brb and it was fun and effective, but once I figured out matches don’t do damage with her purple repeaters , I switched to Math or and Colossus and it’s my favorite team.

  • slidecage
    slidecage Posts: 3,610 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited September 2024

    went a little nuts had 22822 co down to 19747

    witch went from 101 to 335 11 covers i max later
    s witch went from 456 to 467
    doom 452 to 457

    25 covers total too bad wasnt more ag

    3075 cp spent 123 pulls for 25 covers = ouch 5 %

  • Scofie
    Scofie GLOBAL_MODERATORS Posts: 1,619 Chairperson of the Boards

    @slidecage said:
    went a little nuts had 22822 co down to 19747

    witch went from 101 to 335 11 covers i max later
    s witch went from 456 to 467
    doom 452 to 457

    25 covers total too bad wasnt more ag

    3075 cp spent 123 pulls for 25 covers = ouch 5 %

    That's more than 1 in 5 so over 20%?

  • bluewolf
    bluewolf Posts: 6,253 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Jinx said:
    I switched to Math or and Colossus and it’s my favorite team.

    Slidecage should have used some of that math Jinx is so excited about.

  • Scofie
    Scofie GLOBAL_MODERATORS Posts: 1,619 Chairperson of the Boards

    @bluewolf said:

    @Jinx said:
    I switched to Math or and Colossus and it’s my favorite team.

    Slidecage should have used some of that math Jinx is so excited about.

    🤣 I got 2 out of 18 pulls so less than average, but 5 of the 4* pulls led to a champ level for other 5s. I'll take that.

  • tonypq
    tonypq Posts: 557 Critical Contributor
    edited September 2024

    When teammates make matches, it doesn't seem to show the increase in their match damage from her yellow when clicking the character portrait I noticed.

    Is there a certain go to support everyone's using for her ?

  • slidecage
    slidecage Posts: 3,610 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Scofie said:

    @slidecage said:
    went a little nuts had 22822 co down to 19747

    witch went from 101 to 335 11 covers i max later
    s witch went from 456 to 467
    doom 452 to 457

    25 covers total too bad wasnt more ag

    3075 cp spent 123 pulls for 25 covers = ouch 5 %

    That's more than 1 in 5 so over 20%?

    Guess so I probably get her up to 13 covers when she goes into ll ... 9 covers not bad. Could really not used the 11 witch covers. I don't think I even use witch anymore . Then again could be worse and ended with 5 like doom

    I think she is like 335. 5 on yellow

  • bluewolf
    bluewolf Posts: 6,253 Chairperson of the Boards

    @tonypq said:
    When teammates make matches, it doesn't seem to show the increase in their match damage from her yellow when clicking the character portrait I noticed.

    Is there a certain go to support everyone's using for her ?

    This seems to be common when characters are boosted dynamically in match by some effect, regardless of who it is. See also: Implanted Bomb.

    I don’t know that there’s a specific support exactly, but purple AP is extremely useful, so maybe Quantum Realm.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 6,841 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited September 2024

    Seems like Agatha is very highly regarded.

    I'll ask the dumb question -- is she good enough to replace any of the current "meta" characters? Which ones, and how?

    Edit: for an awful lot of folks this isn't a "dumb" question at all, and I don't mean to put them down. In fact it's probably the most important question for many of you! It feels weird just asking it, though, and I don't know how meaningfully I can contribute to the discussion.

  • slidecage
    slidecage Posts: 3,610 Chairperson of the Boards

    @entrailbucket said:
    Seems like Agatha is very highly regarded.

    I'll ask the dumb question -- is she good enough to replace any of the current "meta" characters? Which ones, and how?

    Who is meta now

    Guessing
    5 star aunt may
    Mthor
    Not sure who else

  • Borstock
    Borstock Posts: 2,981 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited September 2024

    @slidecage said:

    @entrailbucket said:
    Seems like Agatha is very highly regarded.

    I'll ask the dumb question -- is she good enough to replace any of the current "meta" characters? Which ones, and how?

    Who is meta now

    Guessing
    5 star aunt may
    Mthor
    Not sure who else

    Depends on your definition of meta. Answers seem to vary fairly wildly. Personally, though she's my favorite character in the game, and is used a lot, I don't consider mThor meta. 🤷

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 6,841 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited September 2024

    @Borstock said:

    @slidecage said:

    @entrailbucket said:
    Seems like Agatha is very highly regarded.

    I'll ask the dumb question -- is she good enough to replace any of the current "meta" characters? Which ones, and how?

    Who is meta now

    Guessing
    5 star aunt may
    Mthor
    Not sure who else

    Depends on your definition of meta. Answers seem to vary fairly wildly. Personally, though she's my favorite character in the game, and is used a lot, I don't consider mThor meta. 🤷

    I always quote it because it's not an adjective, and I agree that the definition is pretty squishy.

    The idea is the group of characters that have the highest representation in the metagame, which has generally evolved to mean those that are both usable and also widely used when unboosted.

  • WilliamK1983
    WilliamK1983 Posts: 1,173 Chairperson of the Boards

    Oh she plays unboosted. Took Agatha(454), Colossus(478), and mthor(508) into shield sim. Played as much a variety as I could and lost once in seven quick matches. Lost to a 550 OR and Chasm with 370 3* Aunt May, which I expected just not as quickly as it happened. Couple got a tad bit dicey, but that was more my fault for not paying attention to the AI's ap and kept getting myself stunned by Polaris in one and Riri in another.

  • Jinx
    Jinx Posts: 295 Mover and Shaker

    @bluewolf said:

    @Jinx said:
    I switched to Math or and Colossus and it’s my favorite team.

    Slidecage should have used some of that math Jinx is so excited about.

    Oops. Got auto corrected. Meant Mthor

  • Jinx
    Jinx Posts: 295 Mover and Shaker

    @entrailbucket said:
    Seems like Agatha is very highly regarded.

    I'll ask the dumb question -- is she good enough to replace any of the current "meta" characters? Which ones, and how?

    Edit: for an awful lot of folks this isn't a "dumb" question at all, and I don't mean to put them down. In fact it's probably the most important question for many of you! It feels weird just asking it, though, and I don't know how meaningfully I can contribute to the discussion.

    She is 100% meta. Best character to pair with any team that has high match damage and has a chance at cascades. (Hence the Colossus/Mthor pairing) Would be good with Juggs/Grocket, but wouldn’t caved as many colors. Always looking for new suggestions though.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 6,841 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Jinx said:

    @entrailbucket said:
    Seems like Agatha is very highly regarded.

    I'll ask the dumb question -- is she good enough to replace any of the current "meta" characters? Which ones, and how?

    Edit: for an awful lot of folks this isn't a "dumb" question at all, and I don't mean to put them down. In fact it's probably the most important question for many of you! It feels weird just asking it, though, and I don't know how meaningfully I can contribute to the discussion.

    She is 100% meta. Best character to pair with any team that has high match damage and has a chance at cascades. (Hence the Colossus/Mthor pairing) Would be good with Juggs/Grocket, but wouldn’t caved as many colors. Always looking for new suggestions though.

    Is she just a third with those pairs in pick-3, or would she, say, replace Shang-Chi (or m'Thor?) in the m'Thor/Shang-Chi pick-2 team?

    If someone new is going to be widely used, they'll have to push someone old out!

  • Kross
    Kross Posts: 157 Tile Toppler

    Has anyone made a (the) definitive post on how (multiple ways) to use her? She still seems confusing to me.

  • bluewolf
    bluewolf Posts: 6,253 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Jinx said:

    @bluewolf said:

    @Jinx said:
    I switched to Math or and Colossus and it’s my favorite team.

    Slidecage should have used some of that math Jinx is so excited about.

    Oops. Got auto corrected. Meant Mthor

    I figured, but everything lined up so perfectly.

  • Painmonger
    Painmonger Posts: 179 Tile Toppler

    @Jinx said:
    She is 100% meta. Best character to pair with any team that has high match damage and has a chance at cascades. (Hence the Colossus/Mthor pairing) Would be good with Juggs/Grocket, but wouldn’t caved as many colors. Always looking for new suggestions though.

    I have been using her for the past 2 events with 4Jugg5, adding MThor when it was a pick 3. Pretty solid team, I could get through challenge nodes with minimal risk. Her % boosts don't change with her being boosted, so I don't see it being vastly different when she goes back to regular levels.

  • tonypq
    tonypq Posts: 557 Critical Contributor
    edited October 2024

    I paired her a few times with Onslaught and that worked well with match 4s and some devastating cascades. Not sure if he's better or worse than other potential partners but he was decent when I gave him a shot.

    Also tried using her with Shang which which worked well. His match damage got up there after a few matches. With red you can try to manually trigger cascades on many boards.

    Karnak worked well too. Between his high match damage after few turns then being boosted with her yellow. The crit tiles thrown in can cause serious damage as well, especially if one or both triggered a cascade. Once his match damage boosts after a few turns you can just about one-shot enemies, especially if matching one of his crit tiles. He was one shooting everyone in the challenge node.

    She's one of the most versatile characters released in ages with how many teams she can fit in with. She seems kind of future proof as well since she should work great with any new characters down the road, especially anyone with a march damage game.

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