Who will be Rebalanced due to Champion 2.0?

@Bowgentle said:

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@KGB said:

@entrailbucket said:
A ton of 4* have passives that will break at the 5* level, and most of them are stuff we all forgot about -- Mockingbird is a good call. Did you remember what America Chavez's red passive does? What about Blade's passive? Ghost gets a 300% match damage boost -- higher than Colossus.

Want to be terrified? Go read M'Baku's powers and imagine that guy as a 5*. (Admit it, you forgot what he did).

As long as we all ascend Polaris it will be just fine because when facing those teams you'll just run her with BRB, boost some blue and stunlock the offending character. That's what everyone in 4* land does now when facing Juggs (by far the most prominently used match damage boost character at +225% combined with 90% match damage reduction).

M'Baku, Talos etc look scary but aren't. What you are far more likely to see is endless ascended Polaris/Juggs teams with Grocket (don't even need to ascend him) in Shield Sim because his AoE passive combined with her strike generation (boosting his AOE) plus her own passive damage generation will just melt teams.

KGB

I don't know.
Even a 475 Polaris will easily fall to Jane on offense.

Of course. That's the whole idea and exactly what we all want (Polaris to be nothing on defense).

My post was meant to say that when you are facing those characters which super boosted match damage (Colossus now, soon to be Juggs, Ghost, MBaku, Talos etc) that they won't be scary at all because with Polaris/BRB you can stun lock them on turn 2 if you boost blue. Heck, you can stun lock Jane on turn 2 on offense (I do it regularly) and she even helps you do it!

KGB

@KGB said:

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@Bowgentle said:

@KGB said:

@entrailbucket said:
A ton of 4* have passives that will break at the 5* level, and most of them are stuff we all forgot about -- Mockingbird is a good call. Did you remember what America Chavez's red passive does? What about Blade's passive? Ghost gets a 300% match damage boost -- higher than Colossus.

Want to be terrified? Go read M'Baku's powers and imagine that guy as a 5*. (Admit it, you forgot what he did).

As long as we all ascend Polaris it will be just fine because when facing those teams you'll just run her with BRB, boost some blue and stunlock the offending character. That's what everyone in 4* land does now when facing Juggs (by far the most prominently used match damage boost character at +225% combined with 90% match damage reduction).

M'Baku, Talos etc look scary but aren't. What you are far more likely to see is endless ascended Polaris/Juggs teams with Grocket (don't even need to ascend him) in Shield Sim because his AoE passive combined with her strike generation (boosting his AOE) plus her own passive damage generation will just melt teams.

KGB

I don't know.
Even a 475 Polaris will easily fall to Jane on offense.

Of course. That's the whole idea and exactly what we all want (Polaris to be nothing on defense).

My post was meant to say that when you are facing those characters which super boosted match damage (Colossus now, soon to be Juggs, Ghost, MBaku, Talos etc) that they won't be scary at all because with Polaris/BRB you can stun lock them on turn 2 if you boost blue. Heck, you can stun lock Jane on turn 2 on offense (I do it regularly) and she even helps you do it!

KGB

I think the difference is that at the 5* tier, you're likely to be facing more than one character who would need to be stunlocked.

Also...we have a lot more teams who can deal with problematic characters in different ways, so Polaris probably won't take over the entire 5* game.

@entrailbucket said:

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@KGB said:

@Bowgentle said:

@KGB said:

@entrailbucket said:
A ton of 4* have passives that will break at the 5* level, and most of them are stuff we all forgot about -- Mockingbird is a good call. Did you remember what America Chavez's red passive does? What about Blade's passive? Ghost gets a 300% match damage boost -- higher than Colossus.

Want to be terrified? Go read M'Baku's powers and imagine that guy as a 5*. (Admit it, you forgot what he did).

As long as we all ascend Polaris it will be just fine because when facing those teams you'll just run her with BRB, boost some blue and stunlock the offending character. That's what everyone in 4* land does now when facing Juggs (by far the most prominently used match damage boost character at +225% combined with 90% match damage reduction).

M'Baku, Talos etc look scary but aren't. What you are far more likely to see is endless ascended Polaris/Juggs teams with Grocket (don't even need to ascend him) in Shield Sim because his AoE passive combined with her strike generation (boosting his AOE) plus her own passive damage generation will just melt teams.

KGB

I don't know.
Even a 475 Polaris will easily fall to Jane on offense.

Of course. That's the whole idea and exactly what we all want (Polaris to be nothing on defense).

My post was meant to say that when you are facing those characters which super boosted match damage (Colossus now, soon to be Juggs, Ghost, MBaku, Talos etc) that they won't be scary at all because with Polaris/BRB you can stun lock them on turn 2 if you boost blue. Heck, you can stun lock Jane on turn 2 on offense (I do it regularly) and she even helps you do it!

KGB

I think the difference is that at the 5* tier, you're likely to be facing more than one character who would need to be stunlocked.

Also...we have a lot more teams who can deal with problematic characters in different ways, so Polaris probably won't take over the entire 5* game.

Polaris doesn't worry me at all to be honest unless she all of a sudden has 90k health unboosted. There are a lot more 4* who are going to be a nightmare.

@KGB I don't disagree with any of that, except for the part where Polaris will be everyone's go to for everything. Maybe you were responding to someone else?

My prediction is that the metagame will look how it looks now -- boosted 5* will still run the show, except for a few characters that are usable unboosted. The difference is that now a bunch of current 4* will become boosted 5*.

@Bad said:
It seems to me nobody still knows what Mbaku does when talking about stunlock, as he gains stun immunity

See! I forgot too! This character is a memory eraser of some kind!

Also according to what others calculated, it takes 1 million iso to ascend any character no matter rarity to just level 475.
I can only ascend 11. After that it will happen a long time until next one.

@ThaRoadWarrior said:
Not going to lie, I never knew what he did. But my opinion stands that most of the 4*s are better and more interesting than the 5s except for health and match.

I think that's just a function of numbers. From any given pool of characters, some percentage of them will be well designed and fun. The best 5* characrerss are as interesting and fun as the best 4 *s. But there are, what, 3x as many 4 * characrers? Of course they offer more variety overall.

@DAZ0273 said:

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@Bad said:
It seems to me nobody still knows what Mbaku does when talking about stunlock, as he gains stun immunity

Do you have a 370 Mbaku + 270 dupe?

I'm not crazy so no.
But I just remembered vague details.

Gamora is so good; Deadliest Woman has a lot of trigger buddies now.

@Ptahhotep said:
Some of the characters may already have been rebalanced. The notes say that a character’s powers can be changed at different levels independently.

Pretty sure they would have told us about it.