Some of the characters may already have been rebalanced. The notes say that a character’s powers can be changed at different levels independently.
@Ptahhotep said: Some of the characters may already have been rebalanced. The notes say that a character’s powers can be changed at different levels independently.
Pretty sure they would have told us about it.
@Bowgentle said: @Ptahhotep said: Some of the characters may already have been rebalanced. The notes say that a character’s powers can be changed at different levels independently. Pretty sure they would have told us about it.
@Bowgentle said:
Are you? We’ve had to ask about a few rebalances already lol.
I assume these ascendant levels have been pre-balanced, otherwise there would be no need to batch release them.
Never assume. They didn't even catch that Chasm would be problematic before releasing him, so... Yeah. My trust in them doing proactive rebalances is pretty low.
@Bowgentle said: Never assume. They didn't even catch that Chasm would be problematic before releasing him, so... Yeah. My trust in them doing proactive rebalances is pretty low.
Which do you trust less? That they'd do proactive rebalances or that they'd give us the details on them?
@entrailbucket said: @Bowgentle said: Never assume. They didn't even catch that Chasm would be problematic before releasing him, so... Yeah. My trust in them doing proactive rebalances is pretty low. Which do you trust less? That they'd do proactive rebalances or that they'd give us the details on them?
@entrailbucket said:
Proactive rebalances. Because those would have been included in the 9000 word essay they put out. I think.
What would the criteria be for a proactive rebalance?
I dunno, overwhelmingly good win rates for ascended 1*s against natural 5s? That's assuming they play tested this... Oh.
Some of the screenshots posted in other threads have already shown changes in powers to characters when they ascend so we know for sure they are making changes at ascended levels.
Presumably this is why it's being released in batch form (a few at a time) rather than all characters at once.
KGB
So when are they telling us about those changes?
On offense overwhelmingly good win rates are assumed and demanded.
And there's nothing to suggest anyone thinks ascended characters should perform below the level of their natural counterparts.
I think the only thing that would (and should?) prompt any sort of rebalance would be unusually high win rates on defence and that's probably going to result from some synergy rather than the individual character powers, so my approach on this would be to see what the real world data throws out once this is in place - we'll find the game breaking combinations, have a bit of fun with them, and wait for the nerfs.
They literally told us that they are rebalancing the characters by star rank and that ascension is not simply a leveled up character.
That is why they are rolling out in batches.
They told us they CAN rebalance them by star rank. Not that they did already.
They are tweaking the algorithmically generated stats in case there's any obvious breaking of power budgets, sure, but that's not a gameplay-based process.
We know from Magik that they can pre-nerf characters, and we know from Magik that it's not something the community would describe as one of their strengths.
So I don't expect any significant changes in characters between their ascension levels until we've found some fun exploits.
Which will take about 5 minutes. The question is, will they nerf faster than in Chasm's case, which... would be good.
Well there's a lot of characters, so it may take a while to find the really overpowered but overlooked ones, although some of the obvious candidates might well produce something.
I find I'm really looking forward to it all.
I had so much fun running 3* Gambatt back in the day, I'm fine with trolling people in PVP with OP 1s.
what was the third piece of the Mr F/Medusa defense team everyone hated? i cant recall. Carnage maybe?
I don't remember it tbh but Carnage or maybe Lockjaw sounds plausible.
It was Carnage.