Introducing the All-New Cover Exchange System!

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  • MathiasTCK
    MathiasTCK Posts: 67 Match Maker

    I'm trying to make sense of this cannibalization tax, perhaps the last 0 was accidental, and they meant for the tax to be one tenth of what they listed?

    Otherwise they are plummeting the value of a 550.

  • Timemachinego
    Timemachinego Posts: 512 Critical Contributor

    @MathiasTCK said:
    I'm trying to make sense of this cannibalization tax, perhaps the last 0 was accidental, and they meant for the tax to be one tenth of what they listed?

    Otherwise they are plummeting the value of a 550.

    The problem is that you're trying to think about it, something that BCS have never done.

  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 10,346 Chairperson of the Boards

    I don't know why but the use of the exclamation in the title of this thread given the context inside almost makes it come across as sarcastic gloating...

  • DJ47057
    DJ47057 Posts: 56 Match Maker

    It's not only that the whales can't swap for free. They were able to get the new one to maximum and use the the new char boost. So you can play new char and might have fun with them. There's not really a reason why playing with a low level newbie when you have several old maxed char. I think the game will lose a bit attractiveness for them.
    And if they would lower the hp quest for a swap a new player can concentrate on a few char and have a small roster and ascend Polaris, R&G, Juggs and sell the required char after using and get a good placement?!?

  • Godzillafan67
    Godzillafan67 Posts: 616 Critical Contributor

    The current non-policy of cover swaps for 550 latest legends doesn't apply to me, has never applied to me, and wouldn't apply to me for the foreseeable future.

    However, this new feature and set-in-stone policy absolutely applies to me and is useful at all my tiers of play. Well, I say "useful"... It's really more just "theoretically useful" as the HP costs are too tiny kitty high. Since I can shard the 3⭐ class and above, and the 1's and 2's can be earned at a decent clip, I don't know that I'll ever use this feature. Personally, I wouldn't have set any cost to performing these transformations. (The obvious counter-argument is that the devs need to make moolah on newly implemented features. That's fine, but I don't have enough behind the scenes information to evaluate or accurately consider monetary necessities.)

    Summary:

    • Like: Hidden policy is now established as an in-game mechanic
    • Don't like: HP costs way too high
  • Zalasta
    Zalasta Posts: 294 Mover and Shaker

    Interesting, but way too expensive. Didn’t need, will not use. Good luck with that.

  • Godzillafan67
    Godzillafan67 Posts: 616 Critical Contributor

    C'mon what? "We all knew" about it because of word of mouth. It's not an official something that you'd find on any of their info outlets, and I only came into this knowledge myself over this last year. (I missed a year from November 2022 to December 2023, so I probably missed when the masses were enlightened.)

  • LavaManLee
    LavaManLee Posts: 1,465 Chairperson of the Boards

    No matter what, this is game changing. Whether it saves the game or kills the game remains to be seen. But it certainly falls into the category of "game changing".

  • Aweberman
    Aweberman Posts: 443 Mover and Shaker

    I agree with that last comment. People have been predicting the death of this game for years, but it's still here. People have been decrying every change to the game for years, but it is what it is.

    I agree that the cost is too high for the lower-tier use cases. Some have suggested that it should be free, but at that point, why even bother having random pulls? So I understand the need for a cost of some kind, but this seems too high for most.

  • Tac
    Tac Posts: 26 Just Dropped In

    @AdeptusRevolt said:
    Certain voices said supports in pvp would kill the game. They were wrong. I think they're wrong again.

    Sure but brace yourself for Xa5 ascended offers every day soon enough.

    Place your bets on the first 3a5 / 4a5 (characters / price) they'll sell now.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 5,999 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Aweberman said:
    Here's a real world use for this system.

    I got my first 550 a year ago (Thanos). When I pulled another Thanos from classics, I was like, "Welp, I guess I have a dupe 5-Star now." My second 550 came during anniversary (Mighty Thor). Of course, a lot more Thanos covers came out of that anniversary vault: my dupe Thanos is now at level 462, and my dupe Thor is a 1/1/1 level 300.

    But if this system had been in place a year ago, I could've swapped out all those extra covers for something more useful than a low-level dupe I'm never going to use. That would have been another 28 different covers, which would have been better.

    Of course, the 1250 HP cost is too much; something like 100-200 would be more reasonable in my mind.

    @IceIX Is there any way that we could have a one-time breakdown of duplicate 5-Star characters to convert them?

    They probably won't do this, but being stuck with dupes also probably isn't as bad as you think it is. Between retro reward updates and ascension, it's paid off to keep your duplicates if you've got the roster space (and if you've got 550s, I assume you've got that covered).

  • SuperCarrot
    SuperCarrot Posts: 206 Tile Toppler

    If you do something continuously for six years it is no longer just a nice thing you do, it could be considered policy. Unwritten policy is generally considered solidified real policy if there is consistent application, shared understanding,enforcement, it becomes a cultural norm, etc. You can usually see this if it is expressed in routines or organizational culture. Unwritten policies can and have been the subject of workplace lawsuits.

    Now this is somewhat different, but there is an expected precedent that Demiurge and then Broken Circle set by creating and following this for almost a decade. They have the right to make changes, it this their game. Players have the right to quit.

    I personally have spent enough over the years, minimum having bought the pass every month since March of 2020…plus other purchases every month. The swaps, which I never got to use as I just hit the magic 1500 pulls last month, were a catch up mechanic which now will be…this is important to hear, monetized. Something which was free, and probably took very little of Customer Services time….if you consider the small percentage of people at that stage of the game, is now not free.

    In short a service was taken from you and monetized. This is an abject fact. It does not matter if you engaged with it or not, it was there for you. If you claim it is bad because people didn’t know about it, people have to educate themselves. Don’t get caught in the weeds, they took a free service and now charge for it..

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 5,999 Chairperson of the Boards

    @SuperCarrot said:
    If you do something continuously for six years it is no longer just a nice thing you do, it could be considered policy. Unwritten policy is generally considered solidified real policy if there is consistent application, shared understanding,enforcement, it becomes a cultural norm, etc. You can usually see this if it is expressed in routines or organizational culture. Unwritten policies can and have been the subject of workplace lawsuits.

    Now this is somewhat different, but there is an expected precedent that Demiurge and then Broken Circle set by creating and following this for almost a decade. They have the right to make changes, it this their game. Players have the right to quit.

    I personally have spent enough over the years, minimum having bought the pass every month since March of 2020…plus other purchases every month. The swaps, which I never got to use as I just hit the magic 1500 pulls last month, were a catch up mechanic which now will be…this is important to hear, monetized. Something which was free, and probably took very little of Customer Services time….if you consider the small percentage of people at that stage of the game, is now not free.

    In short a service was taken from you and monetized. This is an abject fact. It does not matter if you engaged with it or not, it was there for you. If you claim it is bad because people didn’t know about it, people have to educate themselves. Don’t get caught in the weeds, they took a free service and now charge for it..

    This is a perfect summary of the situation. They absolutely have the right to do this, even after 6 years, and you (and others) absolutely have the right to be upset by it, especially since they've done it for 6 years.

    "They've taken a free service and now charge for it" is exactly what's happening.

    I just don't understand how anybody can be surprised by it. This game exists to make money and has only ever existed to make money. Of course they're going to monetize something like this! They're going to monetize everything they possibly can, because players will pay what they ask. It's been proven over and over again throughout the years.

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