Teams that win Turn 0

Pantera236

@sambrookjm said:

@Pantera236 said:

@sambrookjm said:

@Pantera236 said:

@sambrookjm said:

@WilliamK1983 said:
That's insane. > @Pantera236 said:

@WilliamK1983 said:
Some of these ascended and boosted health pools are insane though. Saw a 3* IM40 5* max boosted during the lightning rounds this week. 1,057,104 health at lvl 783. Is it even possible to one shot that much damage?

Yes, it is possible.

Ok. Would've never guessed that trio, then again I'm pretty basic with my teams.

That's an...interesting team. Let me see if I've got this right:

Iron May with Black Widow's Baton - 5 Purple at LVL 5
Spider-Man: India with Atlantis - 5 Green at LVL 3
Spider Gwen with Yaro Root - 5 Green at LVL 3

So you start with 10 Green and 5 Purple if they all fire.

Spider Gwen's Purple to make 12 web tiles at LVL 5 for 5 Purple AP
Spider-Man: India's green (8 AP) at LVL 5 does 12*W damage, where W is the damage per web tile on the board.
Aunt May can increase damage by 250% if she's below 60% health if she has her Yellow at LVL 5 and she is ascended to LVL 4.

So doing that math, assuming I didn't miss anything, Spider-Man: India is doing
(1,596,960) / (12 * 2.5) = 53,232 damage per web tile with their green?

Are either of the Spiders ascended, and how do their abilities change when they hit the next level?

If I have this correct, if you use +2 G/B and +2 All AP Support, you can do this even if only one of the green support fires?

My India is 550, not bothering taking 4* may to half health or whatever the threshold is. Take +2 all +2 green and +2 purple. All supports fire you end up with 10 purple and 16 green enough to fire each twice. India trap tiles count against Gwen's web tile creation so I put his trap power so it only does 2 at start. So each firing of Gwen's purple puts out 8 webs x2 for 16 webs. His green does 16763 per web. So with Mays increase it's 804,624 per casting of green x2 = 1,609,248. When I made that other ss he was at 549.

Where does purple AP #10 come from? The Baton I have as giving 5 Purple. Add in +2 All and +2 Purple, and that gives 9.

All 3 of those supports I have at level 5, batons give 6 at level 5.

My Batons are only LVL 3, and show 5 AP. Thanks for clearing that up.

I've never really paid that much attention - Do other supports change the amount of free AP as they increase in level?

Yeah most do.

JoeHandle

@Pantera236 said:

@sambrookjm said:

@Pantera236 said:

@sambrookjm said:

@Pantera236 said:

@sambrookjm said:

@WilliamK1983 said:
That's insane. > @Pantera236 said:

@WilliamK1983 said:
Some of these ascended and boosted health pools are insane though. Saw a 3* IM40 5* max boosted during the lightning rounds this week. 1,057,104 health at lvl 783. Is it even possible to one shot that much damage?

Yes, it is possible.

Ok. Would've never guessed that trio, then again I'm pretty basic with my teams.

That's an...interesting team. Let me see if I've got this right:

Iron May with Black Widow's Baton - 5 Purple at LVL 5
Spider-Man: India with Atlantis - 5 Green at LVL 3
Spider Gwen with Yaro Root - 5 Green at LVL 3

So you start with 10 Green and 5 Purple if they all fire.

Spider Gwen's Purple to make 12 web tiles at LVL 5 for 5 Purple AP
Spider-Man: India's green (8 AP) at LVL 5 does 12*W damage, where W is the damage per web tile on the board.
Aunt May can increase damage by 250% if she's below 60% health if she has her Yellow at LVL 5 and she is ascended to LVL 4.

So doing that math, assuming I didn't miss anything, Spider-Man: India is doing
(1,596,960) / (12 * 2.5) = 53,232 damage per web tile with their green?

Are either of the Spiders ascended, and how do their abilities change when they hit the next level?

If I have this correct, if you use +2 G/B and +2 All AP Support, you can do this even if only one of the green support fires?

My India is 550, not bothering taking 4* may to half health or whatever the threshold is. Take +2 all +2 green and +2 purple. All supports fire you end up with 10 purple and 16 green enough to fire each twice. India trap tiles count against Gwen's web tile creation so I put his trap power so it only does 2 at start. So each firing of Gwen's purple puts out 8 webs x2 for 16 webs. His green does 16763 per web. So with Mays increase it's 804,624 per casting of green x2 = 1,609,248. When I made that other ss he was at 549.

Where does purple AP #10 come from? The Baton I have as giving 5 Purple. Add in +2 All and +2 Purple, and that gives 9.

All 3 of those supports I have at level 5, batons give 6 at level 5.

My Batons are only LVL 3, and show 5 AP. Thanks for clearing that up.

I've never really paid that much attention - Do other supports change the amount of free AP as they increase in level?

Yeah most do.

I don't know about "most". Some of the old supports that grant free AP have a small increase in the effect as ranks are added ... For instances, Tower goes from 2 to 3, Batons from 5 to 6.

What chances FAR more dramatically, and makes more impact, is the increase in %chance of the effect firing at all, as levels are added. They typically start very low, around 10% at base level, and increase to 60% - 80% at max level.

Pantera236

@JoeHandle said:

@Pantera236 said:

@sambrookjm said:

@Pantera236 said:

@sambrookjm said:

@Pantera236 said:

@sambrookjm said:

@WilliamK1983 said:
That's insane. > @Pantera236 said:

@WilliamK1983 said:
Some of these ascended and boosted health pools are insane though. Saw a 3* IM40 5* max boosted during the lightning rounds this week. 1,057,104 health at lvl 783. Is it even possible to one shot that much damage?

Yes, it is possible.

Ok. Would've never guessed that trio, then again I'm pretty basic with my teams.

That's an...interesting team. Let me see if I've got this right:

Iron May with Black Widow's Baton - 5 Purple at LVL 5
Spider-Man: India with Atlantis - 5 Green at LVL 3
Spider Gwen with Yaro Root - 5 Green at LVL 3

So you start with 10 Green and 5 Purple if they all fire.

Spider Gwen's Purple to make 12 web tiles at LVL 5 for 5 Purple AP
Spider-Man: India's green (8 AP) at LVL 5 does 12*W damage, where W is the damage per web tile on the board.
Aunt May can increase damage by 250% if she's below 60% health if she has her Yellow at LVL 5 and she is ascended to LVL 4.

So doing that math, assuming I didn't miss anything, Spider-Man: India is doing
(1,596,960) / (12 * 2.5) = 53,232 damage per web tile with their green?

Are either of the Spiders ascended, and how do their abilities change when they hit the next level?

If I have this correct, if you use +2 G/B and +2 All AP Support, you can do this even if only one of the green support fires?

My India is 550, not bothering taking 4* may to half health or whatever the threshold is. Take +2 all +2 green and +2 purple. All supports fire you end up with 10 purple and 16 green enough to fire each twice. India trap tiles count against Gwen's web tile creation so I put his trap power so it only does 2 at start. So each firing of Gwen's purple puts out 8 webs x2 for 16 webs. His green does 16763 per web. So with Mays increase it's 804,624 per casting of green x2 = 1,609,248. When I made that other ss he was at 549.

Where does purple AP #10 come from? The Baton I have as giving 5 Purple. Add in +2 All and +2 Purple, and that gives 9.

All 3 of those supports I have at level 5, batons give 6 at level 5.

My Batons are only LVL 3, and show 5 AP. Thanks for clearing that up.

I've never really paid that much attention - Do other supports change the amount of free AP as they increase in level?

Yeah most do.

I don't know about "most". Some of the old supports that grant free AP have a small increase in the effect as ranks are added ... For instances, Tower goes from 2 to 3, Batons from 5 to 6.

What chances FAR more dramatically, and makes more impact, is the increase in %chance of the effect firing at all, as levels are added. They typically start very low, around 10% at base level, and increase to 60% - 80% at max level.

I wasn't commenting on how dramatically they increase just that they do, and most is accurate I say. The ones that give 3 at lower levels don't go up but the ones that give 5 at lower levels do.

trenchdigger

There is a thread called something like Supports that give AP in the Tips and Guides section of this forum.

Pantera236

@trenchdigger said:
There is a thread called something like Supports that give AP in the Tips and Guides section of this forum.

That list has a few things incorrect. Based on the list it's 6/20 that increase. They're missing 4 of thrm. Sp//dr, the tinkerer, yaro root and avengers tower. So 10/20. But also they have the milano twice so there's really only 19. So 10/19.

dianetics

I knew Mays red was going to be strong, but today is the first time I tried this out in full force.

This is just stupid. Whoever did quality testing before she released is bad at their job.

Start match fire red next round please.

I hate nerfs…hatehatehate nerfs, but this is comically broken.

Mays red needs to be rebalanced before supports in PvP go live because this is legit stupid.

ThaRoadWarrior

This is 3* Aunt May and then which Emma, 5* ?

Pantera236

@ThaRoadWarrior said:
This is 3* Aunt May and then which Emma, 5* ?

Both 5*

MgoBlue51

I've used 5aunt may with a random support that gives ap (yaro root right now), 5* Emma with 4*krakoa, and kang with proxima

If all fire, you have 7 red ap and some random green ap

dianetics

I’m now wondering if u have to quit the game.

I finished my slice in 12-13 minutes.

I placed 31. A normal PvE. This is wild good luck losers

entrailbucket

@dianetics said:
I’m now wondering if u have to quit the game.

I finished my slice in 12-13 minutes.

I placed 31. A normal PvE. This is wild good luck losers

You're not optimized enough. I think there's a faster team for easy nodes (that doesn't have supports firing -- those cost a few seconds) and you maybe can't oneshot the essential node unless May is 550?

There's also just clicking speed. At the very very top there is some skill/dexterity involved in navigating all the screens quicker than everyone else.

Jash735

@IrisRyu said:
Turn 0 Team #1
Onslaught (Support: Tinkerer)
M’Baku (Support: Fantasticar)
Northstar (Support: Doesn’t matter, but prolly Leapfrog)

Fire Northstar’s black, the end.

How does firing NS black 1 time win the match??

Pantera236

@entrailbucket said:

@dianetics said:
I’m now wondering if u have to quit the game.

I finished my slice in 12-13 minutes.

I placed 31. A normal PvE. This is wild good luck losers

You're not optimized enough. I think there's a faster team for easy nodes (that doesn't have supports firing -- those cost a few seconds) and you maybe can't oneshot the essential node unless May is 550?

There's also just clicking speed. At the very very top there is some skill/dexterity involved in navigating all the screens quicker than everyone else.

Also sounds like they're not waiting for a flip. I highly recommend doing that if you wanna place high.

JoeHandle

I highly recommend not giving a rip about placement. It's really awesome to be able to take a break, talk to another human, get a drink, enjoy some air, scratch yer balls, and continue playing whenever, rather than let a mobile game dictate your life.

Pantera236

@JoeHandle said:
I highly recommend not giving a rip about placement. It's really awesome to be able to take a break, talk to another human, get a drink, enjoy some air, scratch yer balls, and continue playing whenever, rather than let a mobile game dictate your life.

Do you have to contradict everything I say lol. I do all those things and still place t5 in pve.

ThaRoadWarrior

@entrailbucket said:

@dianetics said:
I’m now wondering if u have to quit the game.

I finished my slice in 12-13 minutes.

I placed 31. A normal PvE. This is wild good luck losers

You're not optimized enough. I think there's a faster team for easy nodes (that doesn't have supports firing -- those cost a few seconds) and you maybe can't oneshot the essential node unless May is 550?

There's also just clicking speed. At the very very top there is some skill/dexterity involved in navigating all the screens quicker than everyone else.

The fastest team I have for easy nodes is ascended rocket/juggernaut/polaris (could be anyone here if both are ascended). It’s a single swipe win for 4x clears.

KGB

@ThaRoadWarrior said:

@entrailbucket said:

@dianetics said:
I’m now wondering if u have to quit the game.

I finished my slice in 12-13 minutes.

I placed 31. A normal PvE. This is wild good luck losers

You're not optimized enough. I think there's a faster team for easy nodes (that doesn't have supports firing -- those cost a few seconds) and you maybe can't oneshot the essential node unless May is 550?

There's also just clicking speed. At the very very top there is some skill/dexterity involved in navigating all the screens quicker than everyone else.

The fastest team I have for easy nodes is ascended rocket/juggernaut/polaris (could be anyone here if both are ascended). It’s a single swipe win for 4x clears.

Isn't Polaris a liability because if you happen to match a special then her passive fires and that takes a bit of extra time placing tiles etc. She essentially pointless on this team since all you need is Juggs/Grocket.

KGB

entrailbucket

@KGB said:

@ThaRoadWarrior said:

@entrailbucket said:

@dianetics said:
I’m now wondering if u have to quit the game.

I finished my slice in 12-13 minutes.

I placed 31. A normal PvE. This is wild good luck losers

You're not optimized enough. I think there's a faster team for easy nodes (that doesn't have supports firing -- those cost a few seconds) and you maybe can't oneshot the essential node unless May is 550?

There's also just clicking speed. At the very very top there is some skill/dexterity involved in navigating all the screens quicker than everyone else.

The fastest team I have for easy nodes is ascended rocket/juggernaut/polaris (could be anyone here if both are ascended). It’s a single swipe win for 4x clears.

Isn't Polaris a liability because if you happen to match a special then her passive fires and that takes a bit of extra time placing tiles etc. She essentially pointless on this team since all you need is Juggs/Grocket.

KGB

Right, if you're trying to get as fast as possible, you've got to eliminate those extra seconds from procs like that.

ThaRoadWarrior

Yeah I used to use another gaurdian; Polaris was when I was initially looking to just not have to switch away from that team at all; it’s ok but it isn’t faster that hulk/omega red/okoye. But for whatever reason I just left it. But there is always a loose match available, you don’t have to match any strikes.

dianetics

@Pantera236 said:
Also sounds like they're not waiting for a flip. I highly recommend doing that if you wanna place high.

I was being hyperbolic. I don’t really care about placement. Just amazed really that at 15 minutes after the sub opened I was placed 31.

Just laughed at how ridiculous that is.

Normally I dont worry about placement. If I push I can get t20 but I don’t even do that normally.
But if it is going to be this crazy I’ll probably just play less and shoot for top 100, where I dont have to clear everything every round.