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entrailbucket
entrailbucket Posts: 5,293 Chairperson of the Boards

I know Aunt May/Emma can do it with the right supports. I think there's an Apocalypse team too. I know there are more teams, but folks are... reluctant to share them because it's a competitive advantage in PvE.

Well, with supports in PvP we're all going to see them eventually. Time to cough em up (or theorycraft some more possibilities)! What's everyone got?

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  • slidecage
    slidecage Posts: 3,246 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited 20 June 2024, 15:43
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    Not in front of PC. But think

    Aunt may/Emma. Goo and that one support that gives you more red at level 4. (will edit when get home)

    Only reason open up tons of ll is to get my aunt may up to 480

    Love to know of more ,even round 1 or 2 kills be nice

    Not sure why people don't wantto share if you have these meta teams at 550 and crushing everything why would you even want more rewards (besides stone). I mean is there really that big difference top 5 compar to top 25

  • dianetics
    dianetics Posts: 1,543 Chairperson of the Boards
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    The question is how high? Early nodes in CL10...RiRi and a villain with Proxima...or just RiRi and boosts. If she is big enough with someone like Emma or May, then maybe even the first clears of the higher nodes.

  • slidecage
    slidecage Posts: 3,246 Chairperson of the Boards
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    @dianetics said:
    The question is how high? Early nodes in CL10...RiRi and a villain with Proxima...or just RiRi and boosts. If she is big enough with someone like Emma or May, then maybe even the first clears of the higher nodes.

    Using aunt Emma deathlock with those supports unboost can kill o think 50k turn o

    Maybe higher if I could find a good 3rd maybe APo with that yellow support

  • BriMan2222
    BriMan2222 Posts: 1,134 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited 21 June 2024, 13:20
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    I think the apocalypse one is apocalypse, beta ray bill, and 5 star kamal kahn with ebony maw support on apoc for black, a support that gives yellow on brb, and one that starts with green on kamala. So fire apocalypse yellow then black, double dip with kamala passive and gain green ap so you can fire her green. Possibly Polaris instead of kamala.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 5,293 Chairperson of the Boards
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    @dianetics said:
    The question is how high? Early nodes in CL10...RiRi and a villain with Proxima...or just RiRi and boosts. If she is big enough with someone like Emma or May, then maybe even the first clears of the higher nodes.

    I know there are teams (multiple) that can turn0 the hard nodes to their level limit. I'm not sure about the challenge node.

  • JoeHandle
    JoeHandle Posts: 335 Mover and Shaker
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    Meh, bypassing the dialogue and suppressing the banners are where the real—and final!—gains are at :D

  • Domitronas
    Domitronas Posts: 128 Tile Toppler
    edited 20 June 2024, 16:22
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    @entrailbucket please cook something with the hood, 5coulson and multiple man. Go + 2 all boost/+2 G/B, spam MM's skills to trigger coulson's CD passive, somehow get enough to fire Hood's black to reduce CD timers by 1 and that surely must be GGs right?

  • KGB
    KGB Posts: 3,080 Chairperson of the Boards
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    @entrailbucket said:

    @dianetics said:
    The question is how high? Early nodes in CL10...RiRi and a villain with Proxima...or just RiRi and boosts. If she is big enough with someone like Emma or May, then maybe even the first clears of the higher nodes.

    I know there are teams (multiple) that can turn0 the hard nodes to their level limit. I'm not sure about the challenge node.

    But what level are these teams that can do this? 450? 500? 550?

    KGB

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 5,293 Chairperson of the Boards
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    @Domitronas said:
    @entrailbucket please cook something with the hood, 5coulson and multiple man. Go + 2 all boost/+2 G/B, spam MM's skills to trigger coulson's CD passive, somehow get enough to fire Hood's black to reduce CD timers by 1 and that surely must be GGs right?

    Is there a support that gives free black AP? You'd need 5, right?

  • dianetics
    dianetics Posts: 1,543 Chairperson of the Boards
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    @entrailbucket said:

    @Domitronas said:
    @entrailbucket please cook something with the hood, 5coulson and multiple man. Go + 2 all boost/+2 G/B, spam MM's skills to trigger coulson's CD passive, somehow get enough to fire Hood's black to reduce CD timers by 1 and that surely must be GGs right?

    Is there a support that gives free black AP? You'd need 5, right?

    Ebony Maw gives 3

  • TheXMan
    TheXMan Posts: 164 Tile Toppler
    edited 20 June 2024, 18:53
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    Tinkerer gives 6 black on a villain

  • dianetics
    dianetics Posts: 1,543 Chairperson of the Boards
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    @TheXMan said:
    Tinkerer gives 6 black on a villain

    Need a 5* for that though. Both of these supports require villains coincidentally.

  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,274 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited 20 June 2024, 22:17
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    What are all the free AP supports? I’ve never been bothered to learn what they all do.

    went through the ones I have, and:

    Atlantis has a high % chance to start with 5 green at rank 3. A leveled up rank 4 is a 66.9% chance

    Corvus Glaive at rank 4 has a 61.95% chance to create 3 purple

    Korg at rank 4 has a 57.55% chance to create 3 yellow

    Arc Reactor - at rank 1 gives a 47.1% (mine is leveled to rank 3) chance to create 5 red

    Avengers Tower at rank 1 has a 37.9% (rank 3 level) chance to create 2 yellow

    Krakoa: for each unique affiliation among allied mutants, gain +1 AP in that character’s strongest color at rank 3

    Quantum realm rank 1 has a 47.1% chance (rank 3 level) to create 5 purple

    Sanctum sanctorum at rank 3 has 53.9% chance to create 5 yellow

    Sp//dr at rank 3 has 53.9% chance to create 5 yellow

    Spider-sense at rank 3 has 45.1% chance to give 3 green

    Milano at rank 3 has 45.1% chance to create 3 black

    Yaro root rank 3 has 53.9% chance to give 5 green

    Honorable mention: Kamar-Taj reduces the first fire cost of a yellow power by 4 to a minimum of 3 at rank 3

    Again this is just looking at the ranks I have personally unlocked, not the full list of all supports. I know some at higher ranks than this do it so if yall have some of those that I don’t feel free to add.

    For that CD spam one, would a yellow + green goblin solution be better? I don’t recall how much his cd reducer costs

  • WilliamK1983
    WilliamK1983 Posts: 816 Critical Contributor
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    Some of these ascended and boosted health pools are insane though. Saw a 3* IM40 5* max boosted during the lightning rounds this week. 1,057,104 health at lvl 783. Is it even possible to one shot that much damage?

  • Pantera236
    Pantera236 Posts: 465 Mover and Shaker
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    @WilliamK1983 said:
    Some of these ascended and boosted health pools are insane though. Saw a 3* IM40 5* max boosted during the lightning rounds this week. 1,057,104 health at lvl 783. Is it even possible to one shot that much damage?

    Yes, it is possible.

  • WilliamK1983
    WilliamK1983 Posts: 816 Critical Contributor
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    That's insane. > @Pantera236 said:

    @WilliamK1983 said:
    Some of these ascended and boosted health pools are insane though. Saw a 3* IM40 5* max boosted during the lightning rounds this week. 1,057,104 health at lvl 783. Is it even possible to one shot that much damage?

    Yes, it is possible.

    Ok. Would've never guessed that trio, then again I'm pretty basic with my teams.

  • Jinx
    Jinx Posts: 256 Mover and Shaker
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    @ThaRoadWarrior said:
    What are all the free AP supports? I’ve never been bothered to learn what they all do.

    went through the ones I have, and:

    Atlantis has a high % chance to start with 5 green at rank 3. A leveled up rank 4 is a 66.9% chance

    Corvus Glaive at rank 4 has a 61.95% chance to create 3 purple

    Korg at rank 4 has a 57.55% chance to create 3 yellow

    Arc Reactor - at rank 1 gives a 47.1% (mine is leveled to rank 3) chance to create 5 red

    Avengers Tower at rank 1 has a 37.9% (rank 3 level) chance to create 2 yellow

    Krakoa: for each unique affiliation among allied mutants, gain +1 AP in that character’s strongest color at rank 3

    Quantum realm rank 1 has a 47.1% chance (rank 3 level) to create 5 purple

    Sanctum sanctorum at rank 3 has 53.9% chance to create 5 yellow

    Sp//dr at rank 3 has 53.9% chance to create 5 yellow

    Spider-sense at rank 3 has 45.1% chance to give 3 green

    Milano at rank 3 has 45.1% chance to create 3 black

    Yaro root rank 3 has 53.9% chance to give 5 green

    Honorable mention: Kamar-Taj reduces the first fire cost of a yellow power by 4 to a minimum of 3 at rank 3

    Again this is just looking at the ranks I have personally unlocked, not the full list of all supports. I know some at higher ranks than this do it so if yall have some of those that I don’t feel free to add.

    For that CD spam one, would a yellow + green goblin solution be better? I don’t recall how much his cd reducer costs

    Arc Reactor is for Iron Man only, but gives 5 Red. Got me to use IM with May and Emma.

  • sambrookjm
    sambrookjm Posts: 2,144 Chairperson of the Boards
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    @WilliamK1983 said:
    That's insane. > @Pantera236 said:

    @WilliamK1983 said:
    Some of these ascended and boosted health pools are insane though. Saw a 3* IM40 5* max boosted during the lightning rounds this week. 1,057,104 health at lvl 783. Is it even possible to one shot that much damage?

    Yes, it is possible.

    Ok. Would've never guessed that trio, then again I'm pretty basic with my teams.

    That's an...interesting team. Let me see if I've got this right:

    Iron May with Black Widow's Baton - 5 Purple at LVL 5
    Spider-Man: India with Atlantis - 5 Green at LVL 3
    Spider Gwen with Yaro Root - 5 Green at LVL 3

    So you start with 10 Green and 5 Purple if they all fire.

    Spider Gwen's Purple to make 12 web tiles at LVL 5 for 5 Purple AP
    Spider-Man: India's green (8 AP) at LVL 5 does 12*W damage, where W is the damage per web tile on the board.
    Aunt May can increase damage by 250% if she's below 60% health if she has her Yellow at LVL 5 and she is ascended to LVL 4.

    So doing that math, assuming I didn't miss anything, Spider-Man: India is doing
    (1,596,960) / (12 * 2.5) = 53,232 damage per web tile with their green?

    Are either of the Spiders ascended, and how do their abilities change when they hit the next level?

    If I have this correct, if you use +2 G/B and +2 All AP Support, you can do this even if only one of the green support fires?

  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 9,915 Chairperson of the Boards
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    @sambrookjm said:

    @WilliamK1983 said:
    That's insane. > @Pantera236 said:

    @WilliamK1983 said:
    Some of these ascended and boosted health pools are insane though. Saw a 3* IM40 5* max boosted during the lightning rounds this week. 1,057,104 health at lvl 783. Is it even possible to one shot that much damage?

    Yes, it is possible.

    Ok. Would've never guessed that trio, then again I'm pretty basic with my teams.

    That's an...interesting team. Let me see if I've got this right:

    Iron May with Black Widow's Baton - 5 Purple at LVL 5
    Spider-Man: India with Atlantis - 5 Green at LVL 3
    Spider Gwen with Yaro Root - 5 Green at LVL 3

    So you start with 10 Green and 5 Purple if they all fire.

    Spider Gwen's Purple to make 12 web tiles at LVL 5 for 5 Purple AP
    Spider-Man: India's green (8 AP) at LVL 5 does 12*W damage, where W is the damage per web tile on the board.
    Aunt May can increase damage by 250% if she's below 60% health if she has her Yellow at LVL 5 and she is ascended to LVL 4.

    So doing that math, assuming I didn't miss anything, Spider-Man: India is doing
    (1,596,960) / (12 * 2.5) = 53,232 damage per web tile with their green?

    Are either of the Spiders ascended, and how do their abilities change when they hit the next level?

    If I have this correct, if you use +2 G/B and +2 All AP Support, you can do this even if only one of the green support fires?

    Crikey you need a PHD to follow all this, lol!

  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 9,915 Chairperson of the Boards
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    But the above is the exact reason why I have always said that maths geeks make the scariest super villains.