**** Human Torch (Annihilus) ****

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  • Bowgentle
    Bowgentle Posts: 7,926 Chairperson of the Boards

    I don't see the toxicity, really.
    It's a lot of people asking warranted questions to the developers about issues that concern them - and a developer answering.
    Nobody has been anything but respectful when Ice or Devpool has actually posted.

  • BlackBoltRocks
    BlackBoltRocks Posts: 1,187 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited April 2023

    Happy to see Johnny Storm finally get a 4* version to complete the Fantastic Four at the tier. I've always liked using 2* and 3* Johnny; I suspect I'll have fun using 4* Johnny as well.

    @Alex502 said:

    This Torch as an F4 entry is unremarkable entirely. He doesn't synergize with Invisible Woman or Thing or with Mr F either. There just isn't much attention to the team mechanics between them, and its just not exciting.

    Hmm I don't think he needs to have synergy with any of Reed, Sue, or Ben. It kinda fits into Johnny's character: brash, young, bold, eager to do his own thing without worrying about the rest of the F4. Also, since they're using the Annihilus version, Johnny was trapped in the Negative Zone without any of the other F4 members, so again thematically it makes sense. He has to rely on the Cosmic Control Rod to beat Annihilus and get out of the Negative Zone. To me, he provides a nice Red/Black outlet (because Thing's and Sue's Green powers are far superior). He's an easy 5/5/3 all day. I guess if you want synergy, Johnny's Green can help fuel Reed's Blue. Regardless, I'm looking forward to trying out Johnny/Reed/Sue in the DDQ node that requires 4* characters. For his debut PVP, I have no idea which 5* are boosted, because the What's New page is borked.

    Also, speaking as an old man who's been playing this game since it came out 137 years ago, I'm delighted they reused the original Johnny Storm pose instead of doing a new one. Here's hoping they also reuse the in-battle animations! #nostalgia

  • HoundofShadow
    HoundofShadow Posts: 8,004 Chairperson of the Boards

    And that's the problem. All's well when they reply. When they don't post or reply within the timeframe expected of them, those toxicities start oozing out in this forum. It is during hard times we see the true colours of players.

    If pve scheduling problem is such a major/urgent issue, the dev will definitely reply as fast as possible. I can point out a few threads where the dev replied to and then got the team to fix it as fast as possible, like Jeff's logo being too bright, or Clea's bugged yellow active power being fixed within a day.

    Anyway, 5/5/3 is the one and only build for him. If you want to focus on buffing attack tiles, Super Skrull could be interesting because he can creat 5 attack tiles with his repeater.

  • Bzhai
    Bzhai Posts: 506 Critical Contributor
    edited April 2023

    Nah, the toxicity is only coming from a few posters who are snarky and attack others for having different takes. Ever since people have called them out or ignored them there's been more healthy discussions. The mods are also being more proactive by removing tangent conversations into other threads.

    What you're probably seeing is an uptick in complaints about the scheduling snafu which I think is warranted. Some observant players even pointed it out on the calendar but it only exploded during Easter weekend and still hasn't been rectified. Players can tolerant individual character bugs but when our daily routines are affected it's really annoying. Doesn't help that communication has declined lately especially when it comes to new content (the Hellfire Club support came and went without any official announcement here and they continue to post on social media ahead of time).

    I still think these chaotic times are leaps better than the staleness the previous devs gave us. But the team in charge of events is doing a really terrible job.

  • Bad
    Bad Posts: 3,146 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Blackstone said:

    I'm not even trying to be critical of whoever is currently working on this game, I just can't keep ignoring the problems when mistakes become the norm.

    >
    Don't forget that well known bugs which also are pointed out here aren't fixed.
    Take a comfortable chair in order to wait for their fix.
    That's pretty dishearting and guess what: it's not serious. It totally darkens the really positive fact that old characters were rebalanced.
    Also the scheduling snafu was understable when they initially took in charge. How many time has passed by? Now the bugged events and overlaps indeed are a norm and what it's actually mindblowing is that they seem to not know why.
    Oh yeah you can add their QA testers, who prenerf a pretty bad character but it seems they are pretty comfortable with a broken character perfectly denounced.

  • Alex502
    Alex502 Posts: 183 Tile Toppler

    I've voiced a lot of these same things when I posted in the "Suggestions and Feedback". Let's bring more of these points directly to the dev team.

  • HoundofShadow
    HoundofShadow Posts: 8,004 Chairperson of the Boards

    Since lack of staffs seems to be the main issue for both Demiurge and BCS, perhaps, it's time to petition for Blizzard or EA or other big names to take over the running of MPQ. These game companies easily have a few hundred to a few thousand game developers working on games, compared to a small team of 1 to 10 that we currently have. They could dedicate 5-10 staffs for each department to ensure that bugs are resolved quickly, communication are smooth and test/live servers are functioning identically.

  • Bowgentle
    Bowgentle Posts: 7,926 Chairperson of the Boards

    It's kinda weird he doesn't feed anyone, but I guess they didn't want to put in a temporary double-feeder, resulting in retro-rewards when they update him.
    Understandable, but makes it less attractive to buy his release offers.

  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 10,273 Chairperson of the Boards

    I guess he could feed a potential 5* Annihilus?

    I am assuming next few characters are all gonna be GotG themed.

  • Bzhai
    Bzhai Posts: 506 Critical Contributor
    edited April 2023

    @DAZ0273 said:
    4* Torch as Annihilus - this one was also news to me! I hope this doesn't preclude us actually getting Ol' Bug Brain himself. I'm happy we have the full 4 at 4* level now.

    Really glad that it wasn't Madlyn Pryor, always felt that big boss villians should be exclusively 5*. Speaking of villians, there's a long list of classic ones we have yet to tap into: Baron Zemo, Enchantress, Sauron, Mandarin, Red Skull, Dormammu and Omega Red (remember him?)

  • dianetics
    dianetics Posts: 1,640 Chairperson of the Boards

    Looking at this kit…

    I don’t know why this character exists. 2 4* human torches that have similarish abilities.

    This is a clear miss. If the devs wanted another human torch put him in another tier.

    He’s not even worth pursuing as a new 4* player. This could be BCS worst 4*.

  • Bowgentle
    Bowgentle Posts: 7,926 Chairperson of the Boards

    @dianetics said:
    This could be BCS worst 4*.

    There's Puck.

  • dianetics
    dianetics Posts: 1,640 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Bowgentle said:

    @dianetics said:
    This could be BCS worst 4*.

    There's Puck.

    Lol but when he released all you could see was his bald head and I loved it.
    If they never made him taller in the character window I would have used him more. Just for fun.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 5,820 Chairperson of the Boards

    Is he that bad? I'm not 100% clear on the mechanics of his black power, but if it lowers all his AP costs by 1 every time it ticks, instead of just lowering them by 1 when it's on the board, then that could get crazy and annoying pretty fast.

    Of course, the wording is odd, and no other character does anything like that, so who knows. Nobody will know until we can test it.

    His damage is quite low for 5* players, but...4* damage should be that low. I get being frustrated that not every 4* is usable by 5* players (like Deathlok or Agent May -- support characters), but they desperately need to flesh out the 4* tier for 4* players.

  • Bowgentle
    Bowgentle Posts: 7,926 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited April 2023

    And there it is, PVE overlaps.
    Oh and it's the 4 day version of FFW, naturally.

  • Bowgentle
    Bowgentle Posts: 7,926 Chairperson of the Boards

    Maybe Marvel "suggested" they wanted him in the game?
    And the next few 5s might be Guardians related, so a 4 was the only possibility.

  • The rockett
    The rockett Posts: 2,016 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Bowgentle said:
    And there it is, PVE overlaps.
    Oh and it's the 4 day version of FFW, naturally.

    Are we allowed to talk about this here or will MODAK tell us we are not able too?

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 5,820 Chairperson of the Boards

    @dianetics said:

    @entrailbucket said:
    Is he that bad? I'm not 100% clear on the mechanics of his black power, but if it lowers all his AP costs by 1 every time it ticks, instead of just lowering them by 1 when it's on the board, then that could get crazy and annoying pretty fast.

    Of course, the wording is odd, and no other character does anything like that, so who knows. Nobody will know until we can test it.

    His damage is quite low for 5* players, but...4* damage should be that low. I get being frustrated that not every 4* is usable by 5* players (like Deathlok or Agent May -- support characters), but they desperately need to flesh out the 4* tier for 4* players.

    He is not better than the existing 4* Torch.

    He should have been a 5* with enhanced mechanics.

    Legit human torch is not popular enough to warrant 2 characters at the same level.
    He is not Spider Man

    I dunno, I think he's better than the existing 4* Torch (pending clarification on the repeater mechanic)? It's not like that guy is some kind of all-star.

    The unpopularity/duplication argument is just irrelevant at this point. We are going to keep getting new characters every 2 weeks or whatever it is, forever. Basically every Marvel character that's ever mattered is in the game already, so if it's between Silver Samurai, Lady Stilt-Man, and another Torch... I don't blame them for just flipping a coin, because, like, who cares.

    More to the point: the 4* tier is screwed, currently -- far, far worse than the 5* tier. It's Polaris and Friends, and that is just a disaster for a game that makes money selling you slots for new characters. This guy makes attack tiles, buffs them, and can destroy enemy specials, so he's probably gonna see some use when he's boosted, as a partner for her. That's about as good as a 4* can get now.