The Simulator (PvE) - (May 30 - June4)

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  • If you're that worried about scaling, just don't use Anti-Grav.
  • HairyDave
    HairyDave Posts: 1,574
    I'm 350th in my main bracket and only 40K behind the leader...

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    I'll just ISO farm and get my BP covers from PVP instead.
  • Bowgentle
    Bowgentle Posts: 7,926 Chairperson of the Boards
    There's something funny going on with scaling.
    Yesterday my hard and normal one-time unlock nodes on the main simulator screen were both at 79.
    This morning I'm looking at 64 for normal and 70 for hard.

    What is this madness? Dynamically adjusted scaling to how much you play, on the fly? o_o
    Since everyone and their dog has a usable mega-buffed Punisher and OBW I can't believe people are having such a hard time with this round that community scaling is going _down_ overnight.

    Don't get me wrong, I love this, but it's suspicious behaviour.
    And if this is really dynamically adjusting, no wonder the poor server hamsters are having such a hard time.
  • kensterr
    kensterr Posts: 1,277 Chairperson of the Boards
    Bowgentle wrote:
    There's something funny going on with scaling.
    Yesterday my hard and normal one-time unlock nodes on the main simulator screen were both at 79.
    This morning I'm looking at 64 for normal and 70 for hard.

    What is this madness? Dynamically adjusted scaling to how much you play, on the fly? o_o
    Since everyone and their dog has a usable mega-buffed Punisher and OBW I can't believe people are having such a hard time with this round that community scaling is going _down_ overnight.

    Don't get me wrong, I love this, but it's suspicious behaviour.
    And if this is really dynamically adjusting, no wonder the poor server hamsters are having such a hard time.
    Mine went up while my alliance mate's went down. Doesn't affect everyone. Most likely scaling is working as intended, eventhough both of us play the refreshes.
  • atomzed
    atomzed Posts: 1,753 Chairperson of the Boards
    Bowgentle wrote:
    There's something funny going on with scaling.
    Yesterday my hard and normal one-time unlock nodes on the main simulator screen were both at 79.
    This morning I'm looking at 64 for normal and 70 for hard.

    What is this madness? Dynamically adjusted scaling to how much you play, on the fly? o_o
    Since everyone and their dog has a usable mega-buffed Punisher and OBW I can't believe people are having such a hard time with this round that community scaling is going _down_ overnight.

    Don't get me wrong, I love this, but it's suspicious behaviour.
    And if this is really dynamically adjusting, no wonder the poor server hamsters are having such a hard time.

    Me too. Despite grinding a lot, the scaling was so minimal for me (of course having a max level Pun and OBW helps...). My toughest node was only at 'normal' and the level was around 100+.

    I suspect that they are trying out new ways of scaling. If you think about it, the key reason why they have to up the scaling to 400, was because of the OPness of Spidey and Cmag. Now with Spidey nerfed, it makes sense not to scale the PVE level too high.

    What is the highest level of the nodes we have seen so far?
  • Phantron wrote:
    If you're that worried about scaling, just don't use Anti-Grav.

    I had been actually reading up the forums here and there. And i noticed a lot of people said if you use OBW's healing, it actually scales the level even more ? what does that mean ? And some said by going to prologue and heal will affects also. I am getting blur in this...
  • Hannybal wrote:
    Phantron wrote:
    If you're that worried about scaling, just don't use Anti-Grav.

    I had been actually reading up the forums here and there. And i noticed a lot of people said if you use OBW's healing, it actually scales the level even more ? what does that mean ? And some said by going to prologue and heal will affects also. I am getting blur in this...

    Scaling is based in part on match damage. If you come out of a match fully healed, scaling goes up.

    Prologue healing does not appear to affect scaling. IceIX said it did at one point, but no evidence of it ever turned up, and I think Demiurge Will later corrected this and said it didn't affect scaling.
  • djpt05
    djpt05 Posts: 178
    I've been using OBW and my scaling has been fine.
    Been running 141 Punisher / 85 OBW / 90ish IM40
  • Ben Grimm wrote:
    Hannybal wrote:
    Phantron wrote:
    If you're that worried about scaling, just don't use Anti-Grav.
    Prologue healing does not appear to affect scaling. IceIX said it did at one point, but no evidence of it ever turned up, and I think Demiurge Will later corrected this and said it didn't affect scaling.


    I think indirectly it can, as it allows you to win more often than the average person who doesn't use prologue healing.
  • NotYou13
    NotYou13 Posts: 104
    I really have no idea how scaling has gotten this bad. I'm not healing. I'm only even USING obw about half the time, and avoiding using Anti-Grav like the plague. I get wiped on nodes about 75% of the time. I'm in the bottom 25% in both subs and the main bracket. Yet I'm still seeing 230 in NORMAL with 280 in hard. This is two events in a row now where I've been completely scaled out of the event. With the Sentry event, there were only two people in my main bracket with any 100+ characters in the entire top 10. This time around, there's only one person with anything over 85. I'm beginning to see why.
  • What is up with the weird end times for this event? This one's ending at 15 minutes after the hour, too.
  • MojoWild
    MojoWild Posts: 765 Critical Contributor
    RichHurtz wrote:
    What is up with the weird end times for this event? This one's ending at 15 minutes after the hour, too.

    Blame the weird original start time. The first event started 15 minutes late, which pushed everything back.
  • I noticed I had my missions decline in levels without me doing anything and I wonder if that's because my placement is much lower than normal.

    With Punisher and presumably Magneto as the next major buffed character, expect significant community scaling overall.
  • Decided to try this again since I was on right before the sub ended. Attempted 5 times to beat one of the essentials, lost all of them. Got close once, but the hailstorm finished me off.

    Levels are still way too high for my roster. And that's the normal nodes.
  • Bowgentle
    Bowgentle Posts: 7,926 Chairperson of the Boards
    Phantron wrote:
    I noticed I had my missions decline in levels without me doing anything and I wonder if that's because my placement is much lower than normal.

    With Punisher and presumably Magneto as the next major buffed character, expect significant community scaling overall.
    Community scaling seems to be toned waaaayyyy down.
    My highest levels were 150, the essentials didn't even reach 100. Weird event.
    And rubberbanding apparently capped at a certain point value outside of the essentials.
    There's definitely going some experimentation on in devs' land.
  • Marty17
    Marty17 Posts: 503 Critical Contributor
    OK, now I'm totally stuck (on hard mode) facing against **Black Widow, **Wolverine & ***Sentry, even normal mode it's waaay to high of a level.
  • I've only been playing in the last 3 hours in each sub event and maintain top 50. My Scaling has dropped like a rock.
  • Scaling seems lower than normal for me. I've gotten in the habit of suiciding characters I'd need to use a health pack on before using one. Not sure if it's doing anything, but can't hurt.
  • Can't say I'm too surprised. Just played the node with Sentry in Hard Mode and I had one of those great **** games. All of the matches I could make are worthless and their team got all of these perfect cascades. Knew things were going too well. This might be another one where I just stick to the Mags required nodes. Though my Mags is pretty bad ATM. Only 2 Red and 1 Purple.
  • RichHurtz wrote:
    Can't say I'm too surprised. Just played the node with Sentry in Hard Mode and I had one of those great tinykitty games. All of the matches I could make are worthless and their team got all of these perfect cascades. Knew things were going too well. This might be another one where I just stick to the Mags required nodes. Though my Mags is pretty bad ATM. Only 2 Red and 1 Purple.

    It seems you can use 2* magneto for the essentials as well