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  • Phumade
    Phumade Posts: 2,528 Chairperson of the Boards
    St_Bernadus said:
    Off topic I know but I did always wonder why counting cards was frowned upon to the "asked to leave" level in casinos. You are only observing what has been dealt out.
    I mean maybe that is it they only want to part drunk folk from their money, people paying attention is bad for business.

    (Unless there is more to counting than that)
    They can only ban you from future gambling.  Even if you did count cards,  they can’t take back the money that has ALREADY been won or lost.

    as a side note. I was playing 5 dollar black jack.  A guy sat down played a few hands at 5-15 dollars, then ramped up to a 300 dollar bet.  Pit boss stoped him after his second bet
  • crackninja
    crackninja Posts: 444 Mover and Shaker
    Phumade said:
    St_Bernadus said:
    Off topic I know but I did always wonder why counting cards was frowned upon to the "asked to leave" level in casinos. You are only observing what has been dealt out.
    I mean maybe that is it they only want to part drunk folk from their money, people paying attention is bad for business.

    (Unless there is more to counting than that)
    They can only ban you from future gambling.  Even if you did count cards,  they can’t take back the money that has ALREADY been won or lost.

    as a side note. I was playing 5 dollar black jack.  A guy sat down played a few hands at 5-15 dollars, then ramped up to a 300 dollar bet.  Pit boss stoped him after his second bet
    This isn't always true...just look up the Phil Ivey edge sorting case where they came after him after the fact for getting what they considered an unfair advantage at baccarat.

    On topic, if you are knowingly using this exploit, it's cheating.  How that affects other players is unclear because for lack of doing this, one might simply spend more money to retain that edge.  At the end of the day, I tend to agree that the devs must have run the numbers and decided that they are either better off for leaving the loophole and keeping spenders who do this happy, or at least are better off now vs the cost of fixing.
  • bluewolf
    bluewolf Posts: 5,945 Chairperson of the Boards
    You know...I have to chuckle a bit at the disparity between this thread and some of the issues that have been brought up and then browsing through the Google Play reviews where a not-uncommon complaint is that the game requires you to be online/connected to the internet.
  • Spudgutter
    Spudgutter Posts: 743 Critical Contributor
    Wait, does it only work on the special/latest stores?  

    If someone knows their pulls are:

    4444454554444444444544455444444

    Would they be able to pull what they know are 4* from a classic, and the 5* from special/latest?  Then it absolutely would give them an unfair advantage because they would be getting all of their 4* at a 20% discount then the rest of us, thus pulling that many more 5* than someone with the same amount of resources. 
  • Rhipf
    Rhipf Posts: 295 Mover and Shaker
    The pulls are independent for each vault (at least that is my understanding). So your 444445... example would only be valid for a particular vault. Another vault may have 45544444544... So you wouldn't be able to get the discount that you described.
  • Spudgutter
    Spudgutter Posts: 743 Critical Contributor
    Rhipf said:
    The pulls are independent for each vault (at least that is my understanding). So your 444445... example would only be valid for a particular vault. Another vault may have 45544444544... So you wouldn't be able to get the discount that you described.
    Ok, good.  Still sketchy, and a big grey area, but I was a little worried for a second there

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