New Feature in R191: Mighty Tokens

Chameleon

KGB said:

Twomp_thaDJ said:

Dogface said:

tiomono said:

Nice. I always thought this is what elite tokens should have been.

Imo what heroics should have been

I whole heartedly agree with this.. there really wasn’t a need for a new set of tokens.. these odds should have just replaced the heroic tokens... heck they were already in events and rewards.. just adding a more rare currency for a game that doesn’t need any more currency 

That would be impossible to do because those of us who have hundreds or thousands of heroics would get an insane benefit by having all the 2* removed from our hoards.

No matter what they had to create a new token similar to how they have 2 sets of support tokens at every tier.

KGB

Yes, but they could have implemented a new set of heroic tokens like they did with support tokens.  Then the old Heroics would go away once people spend them.  I guess it could have been confusing for some, though.

Chameleon

crackninja said:

I look at it as 3000 hp = about 5 5* shard purchases = 20% of a (colorless) 5* cover of the character I want, if I am patient.

This bundle gets me 15% of a latest cover of unknown color, plus a little more than half a 4* and some smaller stuff.

Pretty close value, though not as good as the 1500hp offer minus the mighty tokens (to me).

And so it begins.. The additional math for shards.
I am glad that someone is doing it, just not looking forward to doing it even more myself.  I started this game for fun and relaxation.  It hasn't been very relaxing for a while now and now the fun is steadily waning.

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If you're not having fun, then you're doing it wrong.

I'll expand on this:
If the players aren't having fun then the devs are doing something wrong.

Projectus2501

crackninja said:

I look at it as 3000 hp = about 5 5* shard purchases = 20% of a (colorless) 5* cover of the character I want, if I am patient.

This bundle gets me 15% of a latest cover of unknown color, plus a little more than half a 4* and some smaller stuff.

Pretty close value, though not as good as the 1500hp offer minus the mighty tokens (to me).

It gets you more than that... It gets you 4*s, 3*s and 2*s that give you cp hp and other resources. All summed up it might give you more that 20% of a 5*... The calculation is not easy

DAZ0273

My Mighty Tokens yielded 3*, so not a great start to our relationship together. The first moments together were so exciting, so sparkly and new but they went by in a flash! Then I started to notice the little things. This all seems a bit familiar... like they hadn't updated their Facebook status? Are they ashamed of me? Is that why I only rate 3*? I'm good enough to meet their 4* friends! They had better make more time for me or this just isn't going to work.

crackninja

Projectus2501 said:

crackninja said:

I look at it as 3000 hp = about 5 5* shard purchases = 20% of a (colorless) 5* cover of the character I want, if I am patient.

This bundle gets me 15% of a latest cover of unknown color, plus a little more than half a 4* and some smaller stuff.

Pretty close value, though not as good as the 1500hp offer minus the mighty tokens (to me).

It gets you more than that... It gets you 4*s, 3*s and 2*s that give you cp hp and other resources. All summed up it might give you more that 20% of a 5*... The calculation is not easy

True, I previously calculated that 3*'s are worth 8.85 hp's, and 0.43 cp's, plus a small number of tokens worth additional rewards.  and 4*'s are worth more than that obviously. I didn't dig further because they are close enough in value that its personal preference in my mind, and not apples to apples.

And I do feel comfortable saying I'd rather have the old bundle which I always insta-bought to this new one that I'm on the fence for.

TPF Alexis

I'll pretty much always pick up any bundle that involves getting LTs for HP. That's a trend I really want to support.

Personally, I also felt like the Mighty Tokens were really satisfying to open. Just knowing that I wasn't going to be getting any 2* chaff was really nice.

jredd

i checked the reward structure (SC7) for the modok pvp and there wasn't a mighty token in the progression rewards. there's a gap between the 1000 reward and the 1200 reward. 1100 progression, wow, what a perfect place to put the mighty token.

no point in putting out a new token if there is no way to get it. maybe it's in SC8 or 9? can anyone confirm?

bluewolf

jredd said:

i checked the reward structure (SC7) for the modok pvp and there wasn't a mighty token in the progression rewards. there's a gap between the 1000 reward and the 1200 reward. 1100 progression, wow, what a perfect place to put the mighty token.

no point in putting out a new token if there is no way to get it. maybe it's in SC8 or 9? can anyone confirm?

No, it's certainly not in 8 or 9.

Who knows when they will put them into actual rewards.....  I don't think it'll be soon though.  Maybe in December after they sell a few more MT bundles.

jamesh

jredd said:

i checked the reward structure (SC7) for the modok pvp and there wasn't a mighty token in the progression rewards. there's a gap between the 1000 reward and the 1200 reward. 1100 progression, wow, what a perfect place to put the mighty token.

Why would you value a "possibly a random 4*, but probably a random 3*" token higher in the progression reward table than the guaranteed non-random 4* cover?

JHawkInc

jamesh said:

jredd said:

i checked the reward structure (SC7) for the modok pvp and there wasn't a mighty token in the progression rewards. there's a gap between the 1000 reward and the 1200 reward. 1100 progression, wow, what a perfect place to put the mighty token.

Why would you value a "possibly a random 4*, but probably a random 3*" token higher in the progression reward table than the guaranteed non-random 4* cover?

There are like, three or four reasons that's the wrong way to look at this.

1.  It's about filling the gaps and not moving existing rewards, for several reasons. Keeping the rest the same means people don't have to change their expectations for PVP, you can still get your stuff at 900 or 1200 with the same effort as before. Dropping it at 1100 would encourage people in the 900-1000 range to try a little bit harder to get the next reward. Dropping it at 1100 means the people that push to 1200 and don't quite make it get something for their effort, so a 1150 feels good because it earned a Mighty token, instead of feeling like they should have just shielded out at 900 and been done with it.
   
2.  This doesn't say "Mighty tokens are worth more than 4-star covers." It says "900 points is worth a 4-star cover, and 1100 is higher than that so getting that high gets a 4-star cover AND a Mighty token." The cumulative rewards matter as well.
3. The rewards have never been ranked by value. The ISO at 825 points isn't worth more than the 3-star cover, HP, or CP from lower point values, is it? This line of thinking gets even worse if you compare it to PVE, which has ISO rewards all over the place higher than 4-star covers and CP and other things considered "more valuable."

ThaRoadWarrior

I agree with this ^. I push to 900 and tap out immediately, even though i could generally get to 1000 or 1100 with some effort. If there were a token floating in that reward gulf, I might swim out more.

jredd

jamesh said:

jredd said:

i checked the reward structure (SC7) for the modok pvp and there wasn't a mighty token in the progression rewards. there's a gap between the 1000 reward and the 1200 reward. 1100 progression, wow, what a perfect place to put the mighty token.

Why would you value a "possibly a random 4*, but probably a random 3*" token higher in the progression reward table than the guaranteed non-random 4* cover?

jhawk basically said it already, but here's my cliffs notes: i'd rather get something for getting to 1100 points rather than nothing.

i'd also like ways to get things they introduce in the game. like supports. why introduce something if we cant get them?

Tony_Foot

ThaRoadWarrior said:

I agree with this ^. I push to 900 and tap out immediately, even though i could generally get to 1000 or 1100 with some effort. If there were a token floating in that reward gulf, I might swim out more.

I wouldn’t. I’d still stick at 900. The odds are one possibly two a season will give you a four star. That’s not worth the extra game time or shield money to me. If it’s not below 900 I won’t bother.

Plus it misses the most important point, this cure for dilution is supposed to be for 3 to 4* transitional players. Sticking them at 1100 or anything over 900 does nothing for them. We need to speed those 3* players up into the 4* game, not make it just better for bigger rosters to add champ rewards.

Loosie

So will we ever be able to ‘earn’ a Mighty Token? Or is it purchase only?

The rockett

Loosie said:

So will we ever be able to ‘earn’ a Mighty Token? Or is it purchase only?

We are waiting for these or be “earnable” just like the costumes we were told that would be “earnable”. 

pheregas

The rockett said:

Loosie said:

So will we ever be able to ‘earn’ a Mighty Token? Or is it purchase only?

We are waiting for these or be “earnable” just like the costumes we were told that would be “earnable”. 

They're earnable in that you go out, you get a job, you work, then they pay you, then you pay d3 for the costume.  *Earned*