New Feature in R191: Mighty Tokens

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  • bluewolf
    bluewolf Posts: 5,943 Chairperson of the Boards
    I’d love to be wrong. But a guaranteed 3, possible 4 is pretty high in their reward valuation. 
  • Kolence
    Kolence Posts: 969 Critical Contributor
    It's a 3*, possible 4*, cover. Looking at it like that, it would be between 800 and 900 in pvp. But those are specific characters covers. Token giving a random one, I could see it being a bit lower.

    It should definitely help transitioning players. And if reworking all the events and/or champ rewards is not the opportunity to cut short a little the time it takes to transition, I don't know when it would be. :)
  • HoundofShadow
    HoundofShadow Posts: 8,004 Chairperson of the Boards
    My reasoning for putting it at 45 wins are:

    1) A guranteed 3* or 4* cover doesn't give the players 13 3* shards and 3 4* shards, but MT does.

    2) The value of potentially higher rewards are higher than guaranteed rewards. For example, I remember they did some update to some specific vault rewards(?) or there was some kind of new vault and they replaced 2* with Elite tokens(?). I'm not sure if anyone remembers it or I remembered wrongl

    3) The rewards in PvP progression are pretty tight up till 40 wins. I will probably throw up if they put it at 60 wins.

    4) The rate of getting 4* are much higher than PVP tokens, almost twice.

    I read that most players stop at 575, so they might replace the token at 650 with Mighty Tokens. Regardless, it's a welcoming addition for 3* and transitioning 4* players
  • spidyjedi84
    spidyjedi84 Posts: 514 Critical Contributor
    HoundofShadow said:
    My reasoning for putting it at 45 wins are:

    1) A guranteed 3* or 4* cover doesn't give the players 13 3* shards and 3 4* shards, but MT does.

    2) The value of potentially higher rewards are higher than guaranteed rewards. For example, I remember they did some update to some specific vault rewards(?) or there was some kind of new vault and they replaced 2* with Elite tokens(?). I'm not sure if anyone remembers it or I remembered wrongl

    3) The rewards in PvP progression are pretty tight up till 40 wins. I will probably throw up if they put it at 60 wins.

    4) The rate of getting 4* are much higher than PVP tokens, almost twice.

    I read that most players stop at 575, so they might replace the token at 650 with Mighty Tokens. Regardless, it's a welcoming addition for 3* and transitioning 4* players
    I don't foresee specific event tokens disappearing from PVP, especially at 650 Points or 19 wins. I could see them adding a carrot on either side of the Red ISO (50 wins) to encourage people to slug it out in PVP just a bit more. There are events where if I've went win only, 10 more wins is not a hurdle at that point once I float down from teams hammering on me.
  • Twomp_thaDJ
    Twomp_thaDJ Posts: 237 Tile Toppler
    Dogface said:
    tiomono said:
    Nice. I always thought this is what elite tokens should have been.
    Imo what heroics should have been
    I whole heartedly agree with this.. there really wasn’t a need for a new set of tokens.. these odds should have just replaced the heroic tokens... heck they were already in events and rewards.. just adding a more rare currency for a game that doesn’t need any more currency 
  • acescracked
    acescracked Posts: 1,197 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited November 2019
    bluewolf said:
    ...PVP engagement is on a downward slope, ...
    Not to derail the thread but you have a source on this or like some numbers? PvP is what I like the most, so interested in your info. Thanks.
  • bluewolf
    bluewolf Posts: 5,943 Chairperson of the Boards
    acescracked said:
    bluewolf said:
    ...PVP engagement is on a downward slope, ...
    Not to derail the thread but you have a source on this or like some numbers? PvP is what I like the most, so interested in your info. Thanks.
    You know, maybe it's not going down in terms of brackets.  I looked at the past 3 seasons or so for SCL 7-9.  Each had 3 SCL 9 brackets, 2 SCL8, 3 SCL7.  About 8000 other players in the various unfilled brackets.

    I do know scores seem to be on average lower for overall placement (T100 alliances).  And I personally get annoyed more lately than ever with PVP with the addition of the Worthy/HE meta.
  • KGB
    KGB Posts: 3,392 Chairperson of the Boards
    Twomp_thaDJ said:
    Dogface said:
    tiomono said:
    Nice. I always thought this is what elite tokens should have been.
    Imo what heroics should have been
    I whole heartedly agree with this.. there really wasn’t a need for a new set of tokens.. these odds should have just replaced the heroic tokens... heck they were already in events and rewards.. just adding a more rare currency for a game that doesn’t need any more currency 
    That would be impossible to do because those of us who have hundreds or thousands of heroics would get an insane benefit by having all the 2* removed from our hoards.

    No matter what they had to create a new token similar to how they have 2 sets of support tokens at every tier.

    KGB
  • bluewolf
    bluewolf Posts: 5,943 Chairperson of the Boards
    So, when will these show up in game?

    Is there a bundle coming soon?  A pending pve or pvp to launch them?  Maybe some champ reward rework like at 144 in the non-Limited 2’s?
  • MegaBee
    MegaBee Posts: 1,075 Chairperson of the Boards
    bluewolf said:
    So, when will these show up in game?

    Is there a bundle coming soon?  A pending pve or pvp to launch them?  Maybe some champ reward rework like at 144 in the non-Limited 2’s?
    If I had to guess, I'd say the first PvE or PvP to start now that R191 is live.
  • HoundofShadow
    HoundofShadow Posts: 8,004 Chairperson of the Boards
    The first sighting of Mighty Token: Mighty Resupply, at a price of 3000 HP.

    4 MT = 1500 HP or 375HP per MT.

    I bought it.
  • Dogface
    Dogface Posts: 1,000 Chairperson of the Boards
    HoundofShadow said:
    The first sighting of Mighty Token: Mighty Resupply, at a price of 3000 HP.

    4 MT = 1500 HP or 375HP per MT.

    I bought it.
    How do you calculate that? Wasn't it 3000 HP for 9 elite, 6 heroic, 4 mighty and 1 legendary? Instabuy btw
  • RickOShay
    RickOShay Posts: 452 Mover and Shaker
    Dogface said:
    HoundofShadow said:
    The first sighting of Mighty Token: Mighty Resupply, at a price of 3000 HP.

    4 MT = 1500 HP or 375HP per MT.

    I bought it.
    How do you calculate that? Wasn't it 3000 HP for 9 elite, 6 heroic, 4 mighty and 1 legendary? Instabuy btw
    The previous Resupply had a 1500 HP cost for the same items minus the 4x Mighty Tokens.
  • Dogface
    Dogface Posts: 1,000 Chairperson of the Boards
    RickOShay said:
    Dogface said:
    HoundofShadow said:
    The first sighting of Mighty Token: Mighty Resupply, at a price of 3000 HP.

    4 MT = 1500 HP or 375HP per MT.

    I bought it.
    How do you calculate that? Wasn't it 3000 HP for 9 elite, 6 heroic, 4 mighty and 1 legendary? Instabuy btw
    The previous Resupply had a 1500 HP cost for the same items minus the 4x Mighty Tokens.
    Didn't remember that. Would never have paid 375 for a mighty token, but this offer was too good to pass over.
  • crackninja
    crackninja Posts: 444 Mover and Shaker
    I look at it as 3000 hp = about 5 5* shard purchases = 20% of a (colorless) 5* cover of the character I want, if I am patient.

    This bundle gets me 15% of a latest cover of unknown color, plus a little more than half a 4* and some smaller stuff.

    Pretty close value, though not as good as the 1500hp offer minus the mighty tokens (to me).
  • Chameleon
    Chameleon Posts: 183 Tile Toppler
    KGB said:
    Twomp_thaDJ said:
    Dogface said:
    tiomono said:
    Nice. I always thought this is what elite tokens should have been.
    Imo what heroics should have been
    I whole heartedly agree with this.. there really wasn’t a need for a new set of tokens.. these odds should have just replaced the heroic tokens... heck they were already in events and rewards.. just adding a more rare currency for a game that doesn’t need any more currency 
    That would be impossible to do because those of us who have hundreds or thousands of heroics would get an insane benefit by having all the 2* removed from our hoards.

    No matter what they had to create a new token similar to how they have 2 sets of support tokens at every tier.

    KGB
    Yes, but they could have implemented a new set of heroic tokens like they did with support tokens.  Then the old Heroics would go away once people spend them.  I guess it could have been confusing for some, though.
  • Projectus2501
    Projectus2501 Posts: 218 Tile Toppler
    crackninja said:
    I look at it as 3000 hp = about 5 5* shard purchases = 20% of a (colorless) 5* cover of the character I want, if I am patient.

    This bundle gets me 15% of a latest cover of unknown color, plus a little more than half a 4* and some smaller stuff.

    Pretty close value, though not as good as the 1500hp offer minus the mighty tokens (to me).
    It gets you more than that... It gets you 4*s, 3*s and 2*s that give you cp hp and other resources. All summed up it might give you more that 20% of a 5*... The calculation is not easy
  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 10,527 Chairperson of the Boards
    My Mighty Tokens yielded 3*, so not a great start to our relationship together. The first moments together were so exciting, so sparkly and new but they went by in a flash! Then I started to notice the little things. This all seems a bit familiar... like they hadn't updated their Facebook status? Are they ashamed of me? Is that why I only rate 3*? I'm good enough to meet their 4* friends! They had better make more time for me or this just isn't going to work.
  • crackninja
    crackninja Posts: 444 Mover and Shaker
    Projectus2501 said:
    crackninja said:
    I look at it as 3000 hp = about 5 5* shard purchases = 20% of a (colorless) 5* cover of the character I want, if I am patient.

    This bundle gets me 15% of a latest cover of unknown color, plus a little more than half a 4* and some smaller stuff.

    Pretty close value, though not as good as the 1500hp offer minus the mighty tokens (to me).
    It gets you more than that... It gets you 4*s, 3*s and 2*s that give you cp hp and other resources. All summed up it might give you more that 20% of a 5*... The calculation is not easy
    True, I previously calculated that 3*'s are worth 8.85 hp's, and 0.43 cp's, plus a small number of tokens worth additional rewards.  and 4*'s are worth more than that obviously. I didn't dig further because they are close enough in value that its personal preference in my mind, and not apples to apples.

    And I do feel comfortable saying I'd rather have the old bundle which I always insta-bought to this new one that I'm on the fence for.

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