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Sarkhan 3?

Gunmix25Gunmix25 Posts: 1,068 Chairperson of the Boards
Is Sarkhan 3 going to be released any time soon or is Oktagon making last minute changes? @Brigby
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  • ManiiNamesManiiNames Posts: 212 Tile Toppler
    Take my money!
  • OmegaLolrusOmegaLolrus Posts: 178 Tile Toppler
    edited January 24

    Take all the time you need... I don't have the stuff to get him right now, the more time I get, the better!

  • Gunmix25Gunmix25 Posts: 1,068 Chairperson of the Boards
    Brigby said:
    Gunmix25 said:
    Is Sarkhan 3 going to be released any time soon or is Oktagon making last minute changes? @Brigby
    Not sure about last minute changes, but when it comes to his release date, all I can say is: Soon™

    "Soon" is trademarked? how mysterious!

  • TherosTheros Posts: 422 Mover and Shaker
    Brigby said:
    Gunmix25 said:
    Is Sarkhan 3 going to be released any time soon or is Oktagon making last minute changes? @Brigby
    Not sure about last minute changes, but when it comes to his release date, all I can say is: Soon™
    I hope he is not getting nerfed. 
  • andrewvanmarleandrewvanmarle Posts: 636 Critical Contributor
    Brigby said:
    Gunmix25 said:
    Is Sarkhan 3 going to be released any time soon or is Oktagon making last minute changes? @Brigby
    Not sure about last minute changes, but when it comes to his release date, all I can say is: Soon™
    Ooooh! you stole that trademark from the City of Heroes devs!!!

    (brings back memories!)
  • AzerackAzerack Posts: 257 Mover and Shaker
    Brigby said:
    Gunmix25 said:
    Is Sarkhan 3 going to be released any time soon or is Oktagon making last minute changes? @Brigby
    Not sure about last minute changes, but when it comes to his release date, all I can say is: Soon™
    Ooooh! you stole that trademark from the City of Heroes devs!!!

    (brings back memories!)
    That game had so much more than DCUO could offer. A shame they couldn't last... but I digress.

    Bring on S3! :)
  • FalizarFalizar Posts: 69 Match Maker
    but but but but ...... Nvm sighs*
  • OmegaLolrusOmegaLolrus Posts: 178 Tile Toppler
    Brigby said:
    Gunmix25 said:
    Is Sarkhan 3 going to be released any time soon or is Oktagon making last minute changes? @Brigby
    Not sure about last minute changes, but when it comes to his release date, all I can say is: Soon™
    Ooooh! you stole that trademark from the City of Heroes devs!!!

    (brings back memories!)

    I thought Blizzard had the Soon trademark? Man, I'm behind on my trademark law...
  • AzerackAzerack Posts: 257 Mover and Shaker
    Brigby said:
    Gunmix25 said:
    Is Sarkhan 3 going to be released any time soon or is Oktagon making last minute changes? @Brigby
    Not sure about last minute changes, but when it comes to his release date, all I can say is: Soon™
    Ooooh! you stole that trademark from the City of Heroes devs!!!

    (brings back memories!)

    I thought Blizzard had the Soon trademark? Man, I'm behind on my trademark law...
    Actually,  I thought Smedley from Everquest was the original trademarked, but CoH could have been, too.
  • wereotterwereotter Posts: 1,949 Chairperson of the Boards
    Brigby said:
    Gunmix25 said:
    Is Sarkhan 3 going to be released any time soon or is Oktagon making last minute changes? @Brigby
    Not sure about last minute changes, but when it comes to his release date, all I can say is: Soon™


    Some of you may know the reference. ;)
  • NinjaENinjaE Posts: 194 Tile Toppler

    Okay, seriously... when is this coming out?

    "Soon" may be funny, but it isn't helpful. You wouldn't have spoiled it if it wasn't soon.

  • starfallstarfall Posts: 784 Critical Contributor
    Gunmix25 said:
    Brigby said:
    Gunmix25 said:
    Is Sarkhan 3 going to be released any time soon or is Oktagon making last minute changes? @Brigby
    Not sure about last minute changes, but when it comes to his release date, all I can say is: Soon™

    "Soon" is trademarked? how mysterious!

    Soon™ means "not that soon".
  • Gunmix25Gunmix25 Posts: 1,068 Chairperson of the Boards
    Theros said:
    Brigby said:
    Gunmix25 said:
    Is Sarkhan 3 going to be released any time soon or is Oktagon making last minute changes? @Brigby
    Not sure about last minute changes, but when it comes to his release date, all I can say is: Soon™
    I hope he is not getting nerfed. 
    Same here. With all the pre conceived notions being made about him being broken before anyone ever plays him.  oktagon just might.  B1, B2 were touted to be broken. Strong? Yes.  Not broken though.  
  • LaeuftbeidirLaeuftbeidir Posts: 1,745 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited January 29
    Gunmix25 said:
    Theros said:
    Brigby said:
    Gunmix25 said:
    Is Sarkhan 3 going to be released any time soon or is Oktagon making last minute changes? @Brigby
    Not sure about last minute changes, but when it comes to his release date, all I can say is: Soon™
    I hope he is not getting nerfed. 
    Same here. With all the pre conceived notions being made about him being broken before anyone ever plays him.  oktagon just might.  B1, B2 were touted to be broken. Strong? Yes.  Not broken though.  
    Well, there's a history to that. The community was often right (RishkarsEx, omni, Baral) and often wrong (like I was with the powerful but not oppressive niv Mizzet) when calling something not healthy.

    He'll be meta defining, just as bolas was and is.Where both bolasses are extremly powerful in control and combo, he'll be aggro and combo. The colors and deck building restrictions offer regular turn 3 and faster wins in standard - I tried it with karn without using his abilities. He's a Kiora with more options. He's samut with card draw and better deck building restrictions. Doesn't that make an alarm bell ring?

    He could only be balanced somehow by changing his spell and support slots like they did with samut, but still remain a top level walker.

    Also, such discussion are healthy for the game. We know that the devs get the info what we talk about. They'll make up their head by themselves and have no problem to throw insanely broken stuff (Stv, bsz) into standard anyway - but if we just take everything as it is, what's the point of the forum?

    By the way, there are regularly cards mentioned that could need a buff as well.
  • FirinmahlazerFirinmahlazer Posts: 317 Mover and Shaker
    We want Sarkhan!

    We want Sarkhan!

    We want Sarkhan!
  • Mburn7Mburn7 Posts: 2,382 Chairperson of the Boards
    Gunmix25 said:
    Theros said:
    Brigby said:
    Gunmix25 said:
    Is Sarkhan 3 going to be released any time soon or is Oktagon making last minute changes? @Brigby
    Not sure about last minute changes, but when it comes to his release date, all I can say is: Soon™
    I hope he is not getting nerfed. 
    Same here. With all the pre conceived notions being made about him being broken before anyone ever plays him.  oktagon just might.  B1, B2 were touted to be broken. Strong? Yes.  Not broken though.  
    Well, there's a history to that. The community was often right (RishkarsEx, omni, Baral) and often wrong (like I was with the powerful but not oppressive niv Mizzet) when calling something not healthy.

    He'll be meta defining, just as bolas was and is.Where both bolasses are extremly powerful in control and combo, he'll be aggro and combo. The colors and deck building restrictions offer regular turn 3 and faster wins in standard - I tried it with karn without using his abilities. He's a Kiora with more options. He's samut with card draw and better deck building restrictions. Doesn't that make an alarm bell ring?

    He could only be balanced somehow by changing his spell and support slots like they did with samut, but still remain a top level walker.

    Also, such discussion are healthy for the game. We know that the devs get the info what we talk about. They'll make up their head by themselves and have no problem to throw insanely broken stuff (Stv, bsz) into standard anyway - but if we just take everything as it is, what's the point of the forum?

    By the way, there are regularly cards mentioned that could need a buff as well.
    Actually you were right about Niv until they nerfed/balanced Jaya.  He went pretty much infinite with her ult.

    And they could absolutely tweak Brokhan's abilities a bit and still keep him powerful but less oppressive.  Change his ult to only fetch 2 instead of 3, or say it can only fetch 3 different creatures instead of just the next 3 (just as a quick example).

    I would much rather see them make changes now rather than later.  If they do it now its not a big deal (is it a nerf if he hasn't been released yet?  Semantics!), but if they release him for cash and then nerf him later it is absolutely a problem.

    But something more concrete than "soon" would be nice.
  • LaeuftbeidirLaeuftbeidir Posts: 1,745 Chairperson of the Boards
    By the way, I don't see his abilities as being really problematic. It's the deck building options he offers. I mean, it doesn't really matter if I fetch three GR with his ult and play it or if I fetch them in a loop and play them, does it? I won't use his ult often anyway since the match will likely be over before that
  • Mburn7Mburn7 Posts: 2,382 Chairperson of the Boards
    Fair enough, I guess.  But most of those kinds of combos are Legacy, since there isn't much gem conversion in Standard right now.  I'm sure you can make some funky loops, but they certainly aren't as potent.

    But his abilities are incredibly strong on their own, in addition to his color scheme, and that's where a lot of the worry comes from (see Sorin for why colors and deckbuilding alone won't make a walker meta-warping)
  • Tilwin90Tilwin90 Posts: 628 Critical Contributor
    edited January 29
    They are probably preparing to release him together with ZvE boosters... Soon
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