Cable (Nathan Summers) (10/12/18)

Thanos

@Brigby Can you explain how his green works with and without Okoye boost. Also, does his blue CD make new tiles or just convert existing tiles? Please and than you.

bbigler

Thanos said:

@Brigby Can you explain how his green works with and without Okoye boost. Also, does his green make new tiles or just convert existing tiles? Please and than you.

He means: does his Blue CD-tile convert non-green tiles to green charged tiles OR does it convert green tiles to charged ones when making a green match?  I would like to know this as well, but if it creates new green tiles, then that has the potential to go on endlessly as new green tiles can cause another green match, which adds more green tiles, which could also match, adding more green, which could match, etc.

Brigby

Richyyy said:

Brigby said:

Plasma Barrage - 12  AP
Cable lets loose a blast from his massive future-tech plasma rifle. Deals 21766 damage to the target. Any damage beyond the target's remaining health is dealt to each of their allies.

 ...it sounds like it becomes an AOE if you use it on an enemy with limited remaining health. So if your target, for example, had 1 health point left, then it'd do 21765 damage to both of the other remaining opponents. But maybe that's just me being optimistic.

That's correct. When I used Plasma Barrage on an enemy with 6750 health, both of the enemy's allies received 15,016 damage each.

jamesh said:

Brigby said:

Cyborg Strategist - 9  AP
Cable uses his cybernetics and future tech to get the drop on his enemy. Choose a basic tile to become a 5-turn Blue Countdown tile. Whenever you make a Green match while one of these tiles is on the board, stun the enemy for 2 turns and create up to 5 Green Charged tiles.

Is this "convert up to 5 green tiles to charged tiles", or "convert 5 tiles of any colour to green charged tiles"?  Presumably it's the former, or this could snowball very quickly.

It's the former. He converts 5 Green tiles to Charged tiles.

scottee said:

I'm curious how Okoye's damage stacks with that. Does it stack on the initial hit and then again on the aoe follow up? Does it subtract from or add to the "excess" amount? Could potentially be a double/triple dip. Or it could waste the excess damage. So many ways it can be calculated.

Okoye's Passive does not apply a second time to the remaining damage dealt to the enemy's allies; only the initial damage that Cable deals to the enemy he downs.

IceyOne

Had enough Command points to roll for Cable 5 times. Managed to get 1 Green cover. I want more. His green is awesome.

babinro

Initial Cable Impressions Based on Written Stats:

Blue: Above Average bordering on great.

On paper I'm very impressed with this.  You can easily wait for a green match to be available before you fire this off to guarantee the benefits.   The only tricky point is that your opponent gets first stab at massive green AP gain which is very problematic in pvp especially with the popularity of Thor.  Still you could use this to stun your enemies green spender to help counter a potential drawback but that limits the potential usefulness of a stun skill.   The fact that this is a repeatable stun that can be applied to multiple characters over time makes it very impressive and worthy of the AP cost.  In PvE this probably shines most against goons since you can stun to buy time and fully abuse the green AP gain to then maximize its AoE-style damage.

Green: Above Average

12AP for 21766 damage on its own is decent.  The potential overflow damage to enemies makes this pretty great and potentially elevates Cable as a viable character in PvP.  This will take some testing but it doesn't seem unrealistic to lower the featured character to 10% of their health give or take and save up for a massive AoE style plasma Barrage.

Yellow: Good.

I'm a sucker for strike tiles and this skill provides a significant damage boost that should last for quite a while.  The fortify part of this is more of a gimmick and exists mainly for his blue skill but its welcome.  It's important to note that Cable and Green Goblin are capable of fortifying Repeater tiles.  While this isn't easy to abuse it could become important with time.  The most notable 5* repeater tile I can think of right now is Gambits black which is nice because Gambit+Cable has zero overlap in skills.

Overall: Awesome character.  Top Tier quality but its just a matter of if Cable can find a home in the meta.  Since there's no immediate obvious place it might be more appropriate to call him 'lower top tier' or 'upper middle tier'.

All 3 skills are worth it at 5 covers.  Blue and Yellow 'active' skills are highly desirable in general which means fitting cable into a team should prove to be quite easy.  Stun is a great utility feature to have and his green has a real chance to shine.  

The only 'downside' if you can call it that is how to fit cable into the meta. Is Cable/Thor better than Thor/Okoye?  I seriously doubt it...though if you could set up an ideal Cable Green into Thanos passive for a double high damage AoE with relative consistency we might be on to something. Is Cable going to support some of the fastest competitive pve teams right now?  Again, I seriously doubt it.  Players who don't have the meta 5's champed will likely find a lot to love about Cable though.  He should help boost a variety of other 5's or just make a great 3rd for shield sim.

Good job on Cable.  I'm hyped

tiomono

He looks good but that artwork is not doing it for me. It just looks like they carved him out of a rectangle but wanted to keep the rectangle.

I'm as put off by this as I am creepy bobby.

Good abilities though. I will be interested to see his animations.

Quebbster

Not enough pouches.

TPF Alexis

Quebbster said:

Not enough pouches.

The Synergy Perk on his Support is just going to change the art by adding more pouches

sinnerjfl

tiomono said:

He looks good but that artwork is not doing it for me. It just looks like they carved him out of a rectangle but wanted to keep the rectangle.

I'm as put off by this as I am creepy bobby.

Good abilities though. I will be interested to see his animations.

Agreed, the art on the character page feels wrong. He's way too stocky, there's a certain lack of overall detail and the lighting seems off. 

RickOShay

So say your Okoye adds 1000 damage per TU, and you have 5 on hand. 
You have the target enemy down to 6766 health, and Cable's green does 21766 damage total. 
Does she force 5K damage onto his initial green hit to the target resulting in them taking just 1766 damage from Cable, and then 20K hits each other enemy? 
If so, that's great. 
If not, how else could she be adding any damage to the initial hit? 

Jaedenkaal

RickOShay said:

So say your Okoye adds 1000 damage per TU, and you have 5 on hand. 
You have the target enemy down to 6766 health, and Cable's green does 21766 damage total. 
Does she force 5K damage onto his initial green hit to the target resulting in them taking just 1766 damage from Cable, and then 20K hits each other enemy? 
If so, that's great. 
If not, how else could she be adding any damage to the initial hit? 

She increases the damage of Plasma Barrage to 26766. The first target takes 6766, 20,000 is overkill. The rest of the team takes 20,000.

Brigby's point is that what does NOT happen is that the rest of the team does NOT take 20,000 + 5,000. Her damage increase only happens once, to the initial damage.

RickOShay

Excellent, and that is a much better explanation than what I tried to do!

Cable's green will also be more useful than IWCap's red (or Ironheart's), when facing two remaining enemies, since the overkill damage will simply hit the last target. It costs a bit more so I guess it should be better.

MPQMastery

Can’t wait until I start getting these covers. No luck so far, but he looks like he’s a beast. 

fork1977

Cable Review:

TL;DR - He's slow, and you need a lot of green on the board to maximize his powers. Mid-tier, but MUCH better than Wasp.

My biggest complaint with Cable is that his powers are a bit contradictory. You have to get 9 Blue AP, make a green match, end your turn and then leave a lot of green charged tiles for the enemy team. Because of the blue stun, this wouldn't be so bad if you only had one opponent, but his Green is designed to finish one player and then launch an AoE against the remaining opponents. So you either charge up green tiles early and risk the AI making a match before you can, or you save that play until you have only one enemy left and waste the AoE effect. Not a desirable choice.

The yellow passive is helpful, but again, it requires a match so your turn is over. To get the best use of Cable, you need: 1) 9 blue AP; 2) lots of green on the board that is not ready to be matched; 3) a yellow match ready to be made. Then, you have to hope you can make green matches to activate the stun, all while lowering one player's health enough for Cable's green to finish. That's a lot of things to have to go correctly, and in lots of PvP matches, I've only been able to make it happen once or twice before turn 9 or so. Cable-centric strategy leaves a lot out your control. He's a good support to Thor, but a pale third to JJ or Okoye

OzarkBoatswain

Fixed this for you.

Plasma Barrage Air Hyper Viper Beam - 12 10 green AP

Sends you airborne for 1 turn and deals massive damage. Any damage beyond the target's remaining health is dealt to the next enemy. (Passive) While airborne, this will be cast automatically as long as you have the AP for it.

Xalthim

MaxPowers said:

Will he have a feeder and if so will it be Deadpool?

Please say yes

Needs to have Teen Jean feeder as he's her boy!

Twomp_thaDJ

Tony_Foot said:

I wish pvp was one five star only, it would breathe so much life into both the five and four star tier.

I’m sure this would cause a riot... but you are right definitely would freshen up PvP and make it more enjoyable 

tiomono

Twomp_thaDJ said:

Tony_Foot said:

I wish pvp was one five star only, it would breathe so much life into both the five and four star tier.

I’m sure this would cause a riot... but you are right definitely would freshen up PvP and make it more enjoyable 

And there is the incentive to bring 4* events back more often. Let the 3* events be limited to one 5* and 4* events use two 5*.

I do not understand the logic behind thinking newer players do not enjoy the 4* events as much because they do not have the featured character. They would still be matched against other rosters with the same range of levels. 

Higher level rosters desperately want more 4* versus events. Amirite?

Brigadierbleu

Any idea when he will enter latest legends pool?

Quebbster

Brigadierbleu said:

Any idea when he will enter latest legends pool?

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