2.7.1 Release Notes *Updated (7/10/18)

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  • fiirst
    fiirst Posts: 438 Mover and Shaker
    Btw, when will the aweakening bug fixed???
  • fiirst
    fiirst Posts: 438 Mover and Shaker
    Mburn7 said:
    fiirst said:
    Could you please change the fee for ToTP?
    *sigh* here we go again.

    Why does it need to change?  Remember, you aren't supposed to make a crystal profit.  ToTP is made as a fun way to convert crystals to jewels.  That is all.
    If not change the fee, they should make it rechageable at least.
  • wereotter
    wereotter Posts: 2,070 Chairperson of the Boards
    GrizzoMtGPQ said:
    wereotter said:
    Let's hope this change to elite packs doesn't backfire....

    I personally am wary of the players who are able to purchase enough packs to craft every mythic rare card in a set now getting guaranteed masterpieces. I feel like this has the potential to really throw off power balance between players.
    We've been down this road. There are old gods that have all the cards. They are routinely encountered and beaten. However the trouble comes if the AI gets significantly better. I would actually like to see another tier where the AI is as smart as it was before the recent nerf. That was fun for us old guard.
    I’m not basing my caution regarding this change strictly off of what masterpieces exist right now but also what ones have existed in the past. The swords, No Mercy, Slaughter Pact are all cards I’d rather not see in every deck. Even right now, the spirit dragons can be pretty nasty to face off against.

    Obviously D3 thinks differently, so I have no choice but to adopt a wait and see approach, but I do remember when similar decisions regarding rewards created a ripple effect on the disparity between players that lasted long after they changed their minds.
  • Furks
    Furks Posts: 149 Tile Toppler
    @Brigby I have a question about the 'win with only x' objectives - does it care about the cards being in the deck or does it care about actively casting those kinds of cards. Specifically, if I steal/cast a card from the opponent that does not match the criteria, will the objective be failed? Maybe the wording could be changed so it's more precise about this.

    Thanks. 
  • Machine
    Machine Posts: 857 Critical Contributor
    Thanks a lot for listening! No more dupes in Elite packs :-) Too bad I already wasted 1200 pinks, but it feels less frustrating now that this change is coming. I also like the new objectives and can't wait to play around with them. A very good change of direction D3!
  • Mburn7
    Mburn7 Posts: 3,427 Chairperson of the Boards
    fiirst said:
    Mburn7 said:
    fiirst said:
    Could you please change the fee for ToTP?
    *sigh* here we go again.

    Why does it need to change?  Remember, you aren't supposed to make a crystal profit.  ToTP is made as a fun way to convert crystals to jewels.  That is all.
    If not change the fee, they should make it rechageable at least.
    That I'm not totally against although I think the added challenge makes it fun.  Remember, it wasn't made for new players it was made so us oldies get to play with our old OP legacy decks again.  It's a challenge of nasty deck against nasty deck.  Making it guaranteed loses some of that challenge
  • Brakkis
    Brakkis Posts: 777 Critical Contributor
    Mburn7 said:
    fiirst said:
    Mburn7 said:
    fiirst said:
    Could you please change the fee for ToTP?
    *sigh* here we go again.

    Why does it need to change?  Remember, you aren't supposed to make a crystal profit.  ToTP is made as a fun way to convert crystals to jewels.  That is all.
    If not change the fee, they should make it rechageable at least.
    That I'm not totally against although I think the added challenge makes it fun.  Remember, it wasn't made for new players it was made so us oldies get to play with our old OP legacy decks again.  It's a challenge of nasty deck against nasty deck.  Making it guaranteed loses some of that challenge
    We get enough of them nasty pigliviarich decks in TG to satiate us all forever. I wouldn't mind refresh on the nodes in TotP.
  • khurram
    khurram Posts: 1,090 Chairperson of the Boards
    I wouldn't mind of they brought back the original TotP format where there were only 8 charges with no refresh and you had to win 8/8 to get full rewards.
  • fiirst
    fiirst Posts: 438 Mover and Shaker
    Mburn7 said:
    fiirst said:
    Mburn7 said:
    fiirst said:
    Could you please change the fee for ToTP?
    *sigh* here we go again.

    Why does it need to change?  Remember, you aren't supposed to make a crystal profit.  ToTP is made as a fun way to convert crystals to jewels.  That is all.
    If not change the fee, they should make it rechageable at least.
    That I'm not totally against although I think the added challenge makes it fun.  Remember, it wasn't made for new players it was made so us oldies get to play with our old OP legacy decks again.  It's a challenge of nasty deck against nasty deck.  Making it guaranteed loses some of that challenge
    Loses some game is acceptable. but more match is more fun, isnt it?
  • rafalele
    rafalele Posts: 876 Critical Contributor
    khurram said:
    I wouldn't mind of they brought back the original TotP format where there were only 8 charges with no refresh and you had to win 8/8 to get full rewards.
    Why?
  • gogol666
    gogol666 Posts: 316 Mover and Shaker
    rafalele said:
    khurram said:
    I wouldn't mind of they brought back the original TotP format where there were only 8 charges with no refresh and you had to win 8/8 to get full rewards.
    Why?
    Because: https://youtu.be/YgYEuJ5u1K0
  • HarryMason
    HarryMason Posts: 136 Tile Toppler
    I like the non dupe elite packs . I'll say the same thing I have said a million times .If you're afraid of encountering good cards ,you need to step up your game. You're a human being playing against a mindless robot . You should build your deck to deal with the cards you fear. Short answer, you need to be able to deal with creatures and supports , fix your mana, handle hexproof and draw cards . If you can't do one or more of those things, back to the drawing board . Bad rng will still happen ,but it doesn't have to kill you. I say bring on the beatings . I like to sweat. 
  • arNero
    arNero Posts: 358 Mover and Shaker
    I missed this thread for quite a few days XD Sheesh...Brigby said:


    • Special event supports (that are indestructible) will no longer be valid targets for support destruction

    YES!!! YESSS!!!!! Those stupid indestructible supports have been the WORST thing in those Events, and this is the first step towards making those events with extra rules more tolerable (I'm saying this because, even if Demolish no longer targets the indestrutible supports, they still present a different problem)
    Elite Pack Duplicates
    Elite Packs are one of the most sought after booster packs in the game, and rightfully so! They can contain very powerful cards, and as such, require significant time and effort to save up the Mana Jewels to acquire one. This is especially true for Mythic+ Elite Packs, which is why it can be understandably frustrating when opening one reveals...a duplicate.

    We think opening a Mythic+ Elite Pack should be a momentous and exciting occasion, which is why starting in 2.7.1, all Mythic+ Elite Packs will always guarantee a non-duplicate card!

    If this applies only to the Mythic+ and not the Rare+, I am absolutely fine with it. After all, I can always use crystals to get rares (via the guaranteed rare pack, of course)

    That said, I have read a few criticisms from fellow posters here about this change allowing people to flat out complete all mythics sets by playing free. I agree that is a valid concern, and indeed, if this Mythic+ guaranteed new card change has no strings attached, it can make it easier for random F2P players to just gather a lot of mythics in one go.

    One counterargument I'd like to present to them, however, is the number of Mythics per set.

    Assuming that MtGPQ always follows paper Magic set release schedule, we'll always have 4 sets in a year, which means on average we have 13 weeks. True F2P players can gain 150 jewels per week (see note 1), which means that in 13 weeks, they have 1950 jewels, not counting jewels they get from weekly coalition events. This generally means that per set, such a player will be able to get about 5 mythics, probably double that amount if they are willing to sacrifice crystals playing TotP.

    Now the thing is, how many mythics are there in each set? Dominaria itself already has 20+, almost 30 if you incclude Masterpieces, not counting exclusives which may or may not enter circulation eventually. Statistically speaking, it is NOT possible to gather enough jewels to obtain all available mythics in a given set without spending real money to get more jewels, so frankly, the economy is still able to run.

    And, yeah, like mentioned, the exclusives. I think we still have a few HOU mythics that are still unobtainable without real money, if I'm not mistaken? (the HOU gods) Some may say it's despicable (I indeed hate it when something that is available in the game itself cannot be used unless you spend real money), but I guess that's one way to allow spending players to gain an edge over F2P players to keep the real money economy running.

    (Note 1) This is assuming that true F2P players at Platinum level plays only Across Ixalan; Yes I know that Across Ixalan has an entry cost, just like Trial of the Planes, but compared TotP, Across Ixalan's 20 crystal cost is pretty cheap when considering that recouping it by completing all objectives are far easier, as in, far more forgiving than TotP, whereas by spending 60 crystals at TotP, there is a noticeable chance you will not be able to recoup the cost, on top of that you will always lose 30 crystals bar minimum, meaning that sooner or later, you will face a constant decrease of crystal stock, even if you have the +10 crystal nett from AcIx. So for me technically, TotP is NOT free, but AcIx is.
  • Gunmix25
    Gunmix25 Posts: 1,442 Chairperson of the Boards

    any idea as to when this push will occur? today? tomorrow? next Tuesday?

  • FindingHeart8
    FindingHeart8 Posts: 2,731 Chairperson of the Boards
    Gunmix25 said:

    any idea as to when this push will occur? today? tomorrow? next Tuesday?

    August, September, October, November... :D 
  • Brakkis
    Brakkis Posts: 777 Critical Contributor
    FindingHeart8 said:
    Gunmix25 said:

    any idea as to when this push will occur? today? tomorrow? next Tuesday?

    August, September, October, November... :D 
    Two weeks ago. We missed it.
  • Gunmix25
    Gunmix25 Posts: 1,442 Chairperson of the Boards
    FindingHeart8 said:
    Gunmix25 said:

    any idea as to when this push will occur? today? tomorrow? next Tuesday?

    August, September, October, November... :D 


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  • tfg76
    tfg76 Posts: 258 Mover and Shaker
    I wish I could have a guaranteed non-Masterpiece :) Masterpieces mostly suck.
  • Tilwin90
    Tilwin90 Posts: 662 Critical Contributor
    tfg76 said:
    I wish I could have a guaranteed non-Masterpiece :) Masterpieces mostly suck.
    That's called crafting, silly xD

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