Deadpool Daily Vaults Getting Nerfed and Retired Characters?

Frustrated1

There's been some talk over on the Reddit forum about the vaults losing 4 stars and no stockpiling allowed. Anyone else heard anything?

Also, what's with the rumor of moving vaulted characters to retired?

Ayasugi-san

There was an announcement post on helpshift about it that was quickly removed and is now a dead link. Someone screencapped it, but I'm not sure how to link it because the new link function doesn't support right-clicking so I can't copy and paste. Great forum design!

Bruinsfan17

Someone posted a screen shot in one of my Line app chat rooms about a change to the Taco Vaults but I haven't seen anything on the forums about this. The announcement mentioned that the change would include the removal of the Vaults and be turned into the store style tokens but instead of just drawing characters it includes iso, hp, health packs etc. it's suppose to be implemented April 16th. Is there any truth to this? 

Ayasugi-san

The announcement about the change was taken down hours after it went up. The devs are thinking more about it and nothing was finalized winking-smiley-face.

snlf25

@Brigby What's the deal with this? 

Bruinsfan17

So we shouldn't expect it by April 16th? People were starting to sell off all their tokens worried that the vaults weren't going to be around in two weeks. lol

Ayasugi-san

Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if it did all change on April 13th just like they said, and we just get less warning and more uncertainty.

snlf25

Biggest changes:

• Hoarded tokens don't carry over
• HP has been removed
• 4-stars removed
• 3-star chances for bonus heroes
• 3-stars rotate

Style55

Sounds like another steaming pile of hot garbage. The removal of 4 stars is absolutely absurd considering there were only TWO covers in a vault. 

killerkoala

when they changed from token page to vault those older tokens didn't transfer. i doubt they would transfer if changed vice versa.

DapperChewie

Ayasugi-san said:

There was an announcement post on helpshift about it that was quickly removed and is now a dead link. Someone screencapped it, but I'm not sure how to link it because the new link function doesn't support right-clicking so I can't copy and paste. Great forum design!

Yes, this new forum design is great, unless you want to actually format anything. Pretty poor on mobile too. Can we please go back to the bbcode one? Or maybe get an app that's way more mobile friendly? Like 90% of your players (based off the highly scientific poll I found on the side of the road) play the game on a phone, and therefore are more likely to use the mobile site. 

Anyhow, I saw this announcement as well. From what I remember:

The (somewhat) positive:
Legendary tokens odds increased to 1:208 or so. Same with 10k iso. Note that over even 15 tokens, this is not as good of odds as current ones. 
1:5 chance of a 3*. If this is anything like the 1:4 that elites advertise, you'll probably get one or two 3*s per taco cycle.
Higher odds all around on iso. 
Option for bonus heroes on 3s.

The negative:
No more HP, except for the 1000 token. Which is at about 1:208, same as the LT. 
No more 4s, either featured or random. 
No more random 3s.
Because it's no longer a Vault, no more benefit from hoarding tacos. 
Increased odds for health packs. You may view this as a positive, but it's a trash reward for me. Personal opinion. 

Demiurge Anthony did chime in somewhere and say that it was taken down as they had not finalized it. So you should know... 

These are not the final numbers and you should not assume this is what the change will be. They may decide not to change it at all, or possibly add some things in to make it a little closer to the current taco token rewards. 

So keep that in mind. In addition, the original had an empty bullet point (something I'd like to see as an option here on the new forums, BTW.), which suggests that they were not done with the list, and that someone might have just had an itchy trigger finger posting it. 

DapperChewie

//Removed image, because that's not finalized information -Brigby

There's the image. 

Style55

DapperChewie said:

//Removed image, because that's not finalized information -Brigby

There's the image. 

Yup. Definitely a hot steaming pile of trash. Thanks D3

CNash

Guessing that the reason behind such a change would be to allow Bonus Heroes to be triggered by taco token pulls. 

The Viceroy Returns

Wow, another update of awful.
This was one of the few ways to specifically target 4 Star covers outside of PVP.
Like many others, I would save my Taco Tokens until there was a 4 Star cover that I needed, and then pull until I got it.  Otherwise, I'd hoard.
This was how I was able to beat the Winter Soldier 4DDQ this cycle.  For some reason, I've had really terrible RNG getting him, as mine is "only" 4 3 4.

With this change, it's yet another active nerf to prevent the player base from brute forcing RNG   There were so few ways to do this to begin with, and to guarantee success you needed to hoard FOREVER, so there's no reason why this needs to be done.

Who cares if "the specifics are not final".  I know game dev well enough to know that if the "update" was ready enough to get posted to a forum, there will be very little change to the system once it gets added. 
It will be rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

ClydeFrog76

CNash said:

Guessing that the reason behind such a change would be to allow Bonus Heroes to be triggered by taco token pulls. 

That wouldn't explain the part of the initial statement that said 4*s were being removed from the tokens.

byc

The end is near.

I wonder if $$$ has completely fell off a cliff for them to be making these massive changes if rumors are true.

STOPTHIS

If true, the devs are on a roll like nothing else. Just bad change after bad change.

Alsmir

250hp gone?
That was like the best pull for me in the vault.

Are they trying to kill their game or what? 

insound0

Im still not sure whether to pull my savory stash or not. An update in the next two days would be nice.

mega ghost

For the record, this was pulled so they could re-tool it. We're now speculating based on outdated information.

While I'm typically a pessimist, all of these recent changes could be pointing towards one possible optimistic outcome — a large portion of the 4* characters vaulted and made massively inaccessible, the forecasted removal of the few meager 4* covers from Taco Vaults and a change to taco tokens in general — that outcome being a daily 4* reward in DDQ. If they're giving us access to a daily 4* cover in the same way they currently do 3*, and also want to solve issues of dilution while simultaneously making newer characters playable faster, this could work.

It'd create a steady, more controlled progression of roster development, especially in the long run as they add more and more characters. At the same time, with this new regular access to covers they'd want to pull back on some of the cover rewards already out in the wild. And to implement this, they'd want to make all of the negative changes first, that way we're not reaching new heights of glory only to have them scaled back... better to take a few steps back and then one big step forwards.

Once again, this is me being OPTIMISTIC. But's it's totally plausible.