Token purchases - the new, the bad, and the ugly [LR Nerf]

Jathro
Jathro Posts: 323 Mover and Shaker
edited April 2014 in MPQ General Discussion
Looking at the last few events (both pve and pvp) and the new ones "just" released (Hotshot and hero LRs are incoming) and shaking my head...
Hotshot
- "Inferno" contains a ** or Torch - fine
- "Inferno 10-pack" no guaranteed Torch. not only that, but increased chance without an explanation of what the chances are

LR
- "Courageous" - double chance of featured heroes - meh
- "Courageous 10-pack" - triple chance of featured heroes - what?

So the prices are down a bit, but there's no guaranteed heroes anymore. What's going on?
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Comments

  • kalex716
    kalex716 Posts: 184
    The guarantee hero was the only upside of the occasional splurge if you took a break and missed the opportunity in the previous event to get the latest and greatest...

    Without that, I really hope they see a decline in purchases. Unfortunately, nothing else will get the point across.
  • Since the prices of guaranteed packs are astronomical to most people, they might be trying something new to see if it increases sales
  • With the token change, now the Hero LRs give an "increased chance" for a three-star. LAME

    It just goes to show that evil will always triumph, because good is dumb
  • No more guaranteed 3* in Courageous??? Sigh.

    So the one day delay was to make the Courageous tokens ****? Thanks alot guys!
  • Clintman
    Clintman Posts: 757 Critical Contributor
    This is a terrible change, and it makes it too hard for people to transition to 3*. I do not support this change at all and I am sad to see it happen.
  • Not even show the table with the chance of getting a specific hero.
    What if the chance of getting them is 0. Triple chance of 0 is still 0
  • Pretty lame
  • The courageous and villianous tokens were always way too generous compared to how everything else is priced so this is hardly surprising.
  • mags1587
    mags1587 Posts: 1,020 Chairperson of the Boards
    I don't think the change would be as bad if the LRs gave actual 3* covers as rewards. With only tokens as rewards, though, what's the point?
  • mags1587 wrote:
    I don't think the change would be as bad if the LRs gave actual 3* covers as rewards. With only tokens as rewards, though, what's the point?

    There has been this misconception that LR is supposed to be some kind of end game PvP when they're supposed to be the opposite. The rewards are generally very bad compared to a standard 2.5 day PvP tournament. People just think it's 'endgame' because that used to be the only way to get Ragnarok and Magneto who are the strongest characters in the game. Even the iso 8 reward is pretty bad in general not counting the seed teams, and I doubt the seed teams are intended to be the draw of the LRs. I wouldn't be surprised if the villian LRs stop giving out guaranteed covers too.
  • Phantron wrote:
    mags1587 wrote:
    I don't think the change would be as bad if the LRs gave actual 3* covers as rewards. With only tokens as rewards, though, what's the point?

    There has been this misconception that LR is supposed to be some kind of end game PvP when they're supposed to be the opposite. The rewards are generally very bad compared to a standard 2.5 day PvP tournament. People just think it's 'endgame' because that used to be the only way to get Ragnarok and Magneto who are the strongest characters in the game. Even the iso 8 reward is pretty bad in general not counting the seed teams, and I doubt the seed teams are intended to be the draw of the LRs. I wouldn't be surprised if the villian LRs stop giving out guaranteed covers too.

    It doesn't matter what they're "supposed" to be - they ARE the most competitive, most difficult to place in events by far. That's not a misconception
  • Please don't give them terrible ideas. It's nice to have a decent source of 3* covers. Most of us are walking around with a giant roster of unusable cover capped characters.
  • Dormammu
    Dormammu Posts: 3,531 Chairperson of the Boards
    Phantron wrote:
    People just think it's 'endgame' because that used to be the only way to get Ragnarok and Magneto who are the strongest characters in the game.

    Ah, the good ol' days. Back when the only valid roster question was who to use as a 3rd with Ragnarok and Magneto. (Answer: Spidey)
  • mags1587
    mags1587 Posts: 1,020 Chairperson of the Boards
    gamar wrote:
    Phantron wrote:
    There has been this misconception that LR is supposed to be some kind of end game PvP when they're supposed to be the opposite. The rewards are generally very bad compared to a standard 2.5 day PvP tournament. People just think it's 'endgame' because that used to be the only way to get Ragnarok and Magneto who are the strongest characters in the game. Even the iso 8 reward is pretty bad in general not counting the seed teams, and I doubt the seed teams are intended to be the draw of the LRs. I wouldn't be surprised if the villian LRs stop giving out guaranteed covers too.

    It doesn't matter what they're "supposed" to be - they ARE the most competitive, most difficult to place in events by far. That's not a misconception.
    Yeah, exactly. LRs are tough, and with the change to the token that's given as a top reward in Hero LRs, there's not a whole lot of incentive to actually shoot for a top rank anymore. Sure, I'll play to get the ISO, but I care a lot less where I rank at the end now.
  • Here's a question that may not be answered until the GSBW LR is done...

    Does the token still guarantee a 3*, just not guaranteed to be one of the six LR heroes? Or is it now basically a Heroic token on steroids where you get a 2* or a guaranteed LR hero?
  • mags1587
    mags1587 Posts: 1,020 Chairperson of the Boards
    From the description, it's a Heroic token on steroids -- It says ** or better, with a double chance of the featured heroes.
  • They did do this before with Lazy Thor 10x packs (i.e. tripple chance instead of guaranteed). If they had seen a big purchase drop-off, they would have stopped doing this again. Maybe they are collecting more data, but it's not looking good.
  • gamar wrote:
    With the token change, now the Hero LRs give an "increased chance" for a three-star. LAME

    It just goes to show that evil will always triumph, because good is dumb

    Spaceballs! Love that quote.
  • T_REZ5000
    T_REZ5000 Posts: 149 Tile Toppler
    edited April 2014
    mags1587 wrote:
    From the description, it's a Heroic token on steroids -- It says ** or better, with a double chance of the featured heroes.

    By double chance do they mean an increased chance of getting a 3 star ( so ~32%), or of getting the featured heroes if a 3 star is rolled (still 16% chance of 3* but featured are 2x as likely)?
  • I'ma agree.

    Any mods around? If so plz move this to "Suggestions & Feedback", K thnxs