Thank for for the Gold Covers of popular characters

Clintman

I would like to make this post as a counterpoint to those who feel they speak for everyone when they say they are upset with the Gold 3 star characters. So far I love them.

Gold Star Fat Thor (Fathor), This guy is a beast, and he is as powerful as the god of thunder should be. I have a blast playing him and I have totally ignored the 2* version since I made my transition to 3*. I like the chance to use my favorite Avengers when I play.

Gold Star Captain America, I am still on the fence with this guy, but I will actually work him into my roster for actual PVP play now. This is good because Cap is another character I would love to enjoy more. I do think he needs further tweaking, but that is fine.

Gold Star Daken, man this guy is going to open up new team comp options that I don't have now with his limited level 69 cap, even if he only hits 115, I think he might just be awesome. I will be leveling Psylocke up just for him... He is going to be a beast. Daken is a character I did not want to have to leave behind, but 2* is a significant limiter and he has been shelved.

I can understand the development value to you to be able to put out an upgrade to a hugely popular character group by increasing the power value of powers you have tons of information on to know the impact on the gameplay. Doing this allows you to put out the Alliance features and other game improvements, so I am good with it, thank you.

Unknown

I don't have a problem with the gold characters themselves but I do have a problem with how so far they seem to be strictly better than just about anyone else out there in any measureable field. The only guys who are arguably better are guys who does things that are not easily measureable (Spiderman/Magneto/OBW/The Hood).

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Phantron wrote:

I don't have a problem with the gold characters themselves but I do have a problem with how so far they seem to be strictly better than just about anyone else out there in any measureable field. The only guys who are arguably better are guys who does things that are not easily measureable (Spiderman/Magneto/OBW/The Hood).

Or Punisher, or Patch, or Hulk, or BWGS, or BP and so on. Plenty of characters are better depending on the situation.

Unknown

I would love a Gold Original Black Widow.

Too bad I don't think that will happen since we already have a 3* Black Widow.

Unknown

I'm with Clint. I'm going to enjoy these Gold characters.

So, begone with all this talk of LAZY characters. There's nothing lazy about the swing of 141Thor's hammer into the skulls of your unsuspecting recruits

Unknown

My biggest issue with the gold covers is that there is no sense of discovery with them. You already know how their abilities react and how they could interact with other characters. You've already logged dozens of hours of playing with them.

With a new character like BP, DD or Psylocke there are new and interesting things you find out about them every time you use them. You sometimes accidently stumble upon chemistries they form with other characters (for instance, Psylocke blue / Ares green). You don't get that with the lazy characters.


So their utility (I will use all three of them) is undeniable, but the fun or excitement is not there.

Unknown

I have come around on Lazy Thor. The God of Thunder Thighs has his uses. I will not buy covers for him, but I will compete for him in events if that ever becomes an option again.

Lazy Cap still has me on the fence. That red looks painful and the AP regeneration is quite nice. Still, I would rather have my Black Panther whack the entire team for 3200 than whack a single enemy with the chance to earn my AP back. I would still use C. Magneto over this guy even if I had the covers to make him useful.

Über Daken has me excited.

Unknown

Ghast wrote:

Über Daken

I vote for this name.

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Phantron wrote:

I don't have a problem with the gold characters themselves but I do have a problem with how so far they seem to be strictly better than just about anyone else out there in any measureable field. The only guys who are arguably better are guys who does things that are not easily measureable (Spiderman/Magneto/OBW/The Hood).

I like the idea of gold characters, but I think Thor is too good. Looking at his ability set and hit points there's no downside. Everyone who can win/pay for him will likely have him in short order and most PvP teams will feature him. Lazy Cap will have his place on rosters, but he's no so good he's a must have like Thor is.

Clintman

Toxicadam wrote:

My biggest issue with the gold covers is that there is no sense of discovery with them. You already know how their abilities react and how they could interact with other characters. You've already logged dozens of hours of playing with them.

With a new character like BP, DD or Psylocke there are new and interesting things you find out about them every time you use them. You sometimes accidently stumble upon chemistries they form with other characters (for instance, Psylocke blue / Ares green). You don't get that with the lazy characters.


So their utility (I will use all three of them) is undeniable, but the fun or excitement is not there.

Daken is one I never leveled up as I outstripped his power level rather quickly. I am excited to try comps based on his increased power. C'mon, can't you see new team compositions that you would never run before?

Who would have thought of how BRUTAL Modern Storm is with Black Panther if he wasn't buffed on a Desert Stage?

Nemek

I'd say that I certainly prefer new and unique characters, but I don't have a problem with Gold characters.

The devs are obviously trying to get into a cycle of a new character every two weeks (they've likely looked at the data and find that two weeks is the optimal player participation/retention point.) I'm sure that they want new and unique characters as well, but feel that they can't push them out every two weeks without the quality of the characters suffering. So, we get Gold characters.

In terms of playing with them, I don't have any bias for or against them. Every character is another tool in my toolbox and I don't really care if one of them has a similar name as another one if both of them are still useful in their own situations.

NorthernPolarity

Toxicadam wrote:

My biggest issue with the gold covers is that there is no sense of discovery with them. You already know how their abilities react and how they could interact with other characters. You've already logged dozens of hours of playing with them.

With a new character like BP, DD or Psylocke there are new and interesting things you find out about them every time you use them. You sometimes accidently stumble upon chemistries they form with other characters (for instance, Psylocke blue / Ares green). You don't get that with the lazy characters.


So their utility (I will use all three of them) is undeniable, but the fun or excitement is not there.

I don't think this is entirely true. While this makes sense for a popular character like Thor that everyone has maxed out, how many of us have really explored characters like Daken/Capt? A large number of forumgoers haven't maxed out either character due to their perceived weaknesses, so we don't really know exactly how they'll play out. The fact that they're a 2* character also means that most people haven't tried combinations with them and 3* characters: what about a team composition like The Hood and LazyCap, for instance? I'm actually kind of excited for LazyCap: his red damage is a repeatable adamantium slash at max level, and that possibility is worth exploring with the currently characters that we have to work with.

Unknown

This is a pointless post. You don't love gold characters, you love powerful cards.

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abuelo wrote:

This is a pointless post. You don't love gold characters, you love powerful cards.

I disagree. I like the gold characters, specifically because I loved using Thor and I like Captain America as a character, and both were significantly outstripped long ago by just about every 3* there is. Now I can use Thor and Captain America again.

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NorthernPolarity wrote:

I don't think this is entirely true. While this makes sense for a popular character like Thor that everyone has maxed out, how many of us have really explored characters like Daken/Capt? .

Well, you're right about that. I'm speaking from the perspective of someone that has been here since day 1. I've been encouraged into using Capt/Dakan a lot over the past 6 months because of various buffs/ lineup limitations. Even though neither of them are maxed out.

Unknown

You can basically say Magneto/The Hood/OBW are AP generation (which is hard to calculate in value but if you do it's an extremely high effective damage) and Spiderman is stun, and that's the only thing Thor can't do. If these 4 characters cannot be selected at all, the best team would be 3 Thors. Not even The Punisher is remotely competitive against Thor. The only reason you mix Thor with other people is because you can't have 3 Thors on the same team.

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Phantron wrote:

You can basically say Magneto/The Hood/OBW are AP generation (which is hard to calculate in value but if you do it's an extremely high effective damage) and Spiderman is stun, and that's the only thing Thor can't do. If these 4 characters cannot be selected at all, the best team would be 3 Thors. Not even The Punisher is remotely competitive against Thor. The only reason you mix Thor with other people is because you can't have 3 Thors on the same team.

Huh? Punisher can deal 3400 damage to Thor with 8 red AP, while also adding strike tiles (if you keep all 6 on the board, that's an extra what, 6-700 damage per turn for only 2 more green AP than Thor) along with an AOE + attack tile?

Thor is good. He's also slow and an AP denial/AP steal team can handle him fine.

But you complain for the sake of complaining about just about every single powerful character there is. It really seems like you just want to play Bejewelled.

Unknown

Phantron, why would you think 3 thors is a good thing?

Think about it. Even if you could have 3 spideys or 3 mags on the same team, would you do it?

All you do is like increase your Health pool to 3 times for that one character.

A balanced team ensures that all colors and powers can be used. Having 3 thors doesn't mean you can use Lightning strike 3 times with the same AP.

Even if I could, I still won't use 2 spideys on the same team.

Unknown

There's nothing wrong with liking Thor. However, as others have pointed out, his stat budget _completely_ overshadows that of any other character. Characters who come close to making every other character look obsolete will always cause strong opinions both for and against.

Unknown

I don't mind the gold characters as I think it reflects a better attitude by D3P... i much prefer the power creep than the nerf bat and the gold allows many favorites to have a place in the new offerings. D3 wanted longer matches and I would rather have higher hits and health than everyone chipping 600 pts away at each other. It probably is the same thing by ratio, but I prefer the fallacy that its more powerful since we r talking about ungoldly comic characters.

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jozier wrote:

Phantron wrote:

You can basically say Magneto/The Hood/OBW are AP generation (which is hard to calculate in value but if you do it's an extremely high effective damage) and Spiderman is stun, and that's the only thing Thor can't do. If these 4 characters cannot be selected at all, the best team would be 3 Thors. Not even The Punisher is remotely competitive against Thor. The only reason you mix Thor with other people is because you can't have 3 Thors on the same team.

Huh? Punisher can deal 3400 damage to Thor with 8 red AP, while also adding strike tiles (if you keep all 6 on the board, that's an extra what, 6-700 damage per turn for only 2 more green AP than Thor) along with an AOE + attack tile?

Thor is good. He's also slow and an AP denial/AP steal team can handle him fine.

But you complain for the sake of complaining about just about every single powerful character there is. It really seems like you just want to play Bejewelled.

And who does the first 4900 damage to Thor before you can do Retribution? 2 Judgment sets up a pretty potent strike tiles on board, while a single Call of the Storm is almost certain to kill someone instantly and leave the other two crippled.

Nobody said Thor can't have the same AP steal characters on his own team. I kept those characters out because they're hard to compare but they work just fine on Thor's team.

3 Thors will easily crush any 3 characters not in the 'ability hard to measure' category, and Thor goes well with any of those characters anyway.