The Addiction Has Begun..

dsds

How was the long weekend? Did Brigby spend most of it on mpq? I think I am starting to develop an addiction to hearing about someone else's addiction.

WelcomeDeath

So...in regards to rostering 4*/5*. If you've got the hp to do it, do it. Those pools are already ridiculously diluted and its a huge gap from the 3-4* or 4-5* transition, more so each day. Getting early covers will just help later progress. As far as ruining scaling, part of the multiple pve tests they did months ago addressed the issue of a single cover ruining your scaling, top 3 is weighted by covers as well as levels, so a single level 70 (or even 3!) shouldnt mess up your scaling. Certainly don't cannibalize fully covered lower rarities to do so, but don't stunt your progress by selling for 1000 iso.

mpqr7

Once you have a decent 2* roster, sell off all your 1*s except for IM (or Juggs if you prefer).

broll

aesthetocyst wrote:

broll wrote:

... early in the game rostering them is a waste of HP...

Given the established and sound advice to only spend HP on slots in the early going, how can rostering them be a "waste" of HP? The HP is being used for the only advisable use, buying slots.

If the player is HP constrained (not willing to spend to buy slots as needed), then yes, they need to avoid finding new needs for slots to the extent they can (i.e. not opening tokens, esp not higher grade tokens).

But eventually they will be blessed with something shiny. Rostering them is not a "waste". Slots are forever! MPQ's only enduring resource! Lebensraum!

Burning covers is a waste. This is the skewer that tries to force players to become spenders.

It's a waste for the following reasons:
1. Even if you are extremely obsessive with the game you aren't going to have a truly usable 4* until you're 8 months in (probably more if you whale it though). So they are literally taking up space for no real purpose outside of the 4* essentials.
2. Until you have 3-5 3* characters championed, you feel the crushing weight of 5* (4*s not so much).
3. There are 41 3* and 13 2* not counting bagman, plus your 1*. So you've got 55 roster slots of far more useful characters to get. It's more worthwhile to get every 3* than the 4*s to get the extra covers and ISO from clearing out DDQ everyday.
4. As noted above 4* won't be usable for 6-8 months, 5*s is probably closer to a year. If you horde CP and tokens early, then you can hit LL hard when you're ready for them to focus on them and actually get a lot more bang from your buck then trickling them in.

You're free to disagree, but from my experience as a newer player this is how I see it. Also worth noting this is written from a PVE focus perspective. It may be different for someone wanting to focus PvP more (but why anyone would focus on PvP before they have a decent team of 4* champs is beyond me. It's like beating your head against a brick wall).

broll

Dormammu wrote:

I've decided to be nice and give you some tips that should help manage your life in spite of this addiction. Hope they are helpful.

1. Play when you're going #2, and don't rush things while you're in there.
2. Play while you eat. If you eat with others, eat near a television so they're distracted and don't bother you with things like conversation.
3. If you have kids, task them with handling your light work. Let them take care of DDQ and easy nodes in PVE.
4. Play while commuting, as long as you're not behind the wheel.
5. Let your spouse/significant other drive more often. Even if they are a terrible driver, you won't notice because you'll be playing MPQ
6. If you're not married, don't get married.
7. If you are married, get your spouse addicted to MPQ as soon as possible. (This will be essential to avoid a potentially painful separation.)
7a. If you are married, and the above isn't possible, put a small but comfortable folding chair in a closet your spouse rarely uses.
8. Eliminate any other time-consuming hobbies or interests.
9. Play during commercials, movie previews, and any time you're dragged to the opera, playhouse, or concert hall.
10. If you're a sports fan, stop.
11. Always forget to make dinner reservations; then when you're waiting for your table you have an excuse to play MPQ.
12. Play at work. If someone asks what you're doing, tell them you're texting this week's 'tps reports'. They won't have any idea what you're talking about and will stop asking questions to avoid sounding ignorant.

Good list, but I can add.
13. If you enjoy playing other video games, don't. Sell your consoles and games, you don't have time for that anymore.

WelcomeDeath

broll wrote:

It's a waste for the following reasons:
1. Even if you are extremely obsessive with the game you aren't going to have a truly usable 4* until you're 8 months in (probably more if you whale it though). So they are literally taking up space for no real purpose outside of the 4* essentials.

You're free to disagree, but from my experience as a newer player this is how I see it. Also worth noting this is written from a PVE focus perspective. It may be different for someone wanting to focus PvP more (but why anyone would focus on PvP before they have a decent team of 4* champs is beyond me. It's like beating your head against a brick wall).

Ok...so from a pve perspective is better not to have the 4* essential to hit the 4* essential node six times, even with it being the second highest valued node out of the main nine? That cant be good for placement. Making top 50 each day means at least 350 hp is rolling in a week just from daily/sub placement, more for event end, more for champs. I suppose you could just roster it, then sell it post-event, but that doesn't seem good for building a base for a later roster.
Second, a team of champ 4s doesn't make pvp easy...ask anyone with champ 4s. 900 is easy, sure, but 1200? That requires work, and a lot of it. 2 champ 5s? That's much easier. Also, isn't it worth it to pvp as high as you can make progression? Seems otherwise you're missing out on possible hp, iso, and covers from progression and tokens you get from progression.

MarkersMake

broll wrote:

You're free to disagree, but from my experience as a newer player this is how I see it. Also worth noting this is written from a PVE focus perspective. It may be different for someone wanting to focus PvP more (but why anyone would focus on PvP before they have a decent team of 4* champs is beyond me. It's like beating your head against a brick wall).

The covers and HP from PVP season rewards, as well as from Simulator, are well worth investing some time in PVP. As well, the heroic 10-pack at 4k season points is a great resource for making the transition from 2* to 3*, and is pretty easily achievable with a transitioning 3* roster (eg. I was able to hit 4k before champing any 3*s. Now that I have a dozen or so 3* champs, it's automatic).

That's above and beyond the actual event rewards, of course. 400 should be reachable by most 3* rosters, which gets you a standard, elite, and event token, as well as 50hp to help with roster slots. Joining a bit late and climbing to 400 (eg with 24h left in the event) is the easiest way I've found to avoid getting hit as you climb. Even if you only keep 200-300 of those points by the end of the event, you can still reach 4k by hitting simulator for as much as you can, and getting as many of those covers as possible.

Now, you're right that focusing solely on PVP too early is frustrating, but you definitely shouldn't ignore it, if you can spare the time.

Brigby

carrion pigeons wrote:

You ought to post your roster in your sig.

Done!

HaywireII wrote:

I wonder what Brigby's hero point budget is. In the early game I don't think you should be spending them on anything but roster slots. We don't know if all hero points have to be earned in game or if some are being purchased or provided as part of employment.

I am playing entirely from scratch with no debug awarding me HP nor am I buying anything at the moment. I want to truly experience this game just like any new player would.

spectator wrote:

Actually I feel brigby should open and roster 4/5*
It may give valuable feedback to the dev teams the effect this has on scaling and for them to act on it

That's the plan! I figured what better way to convey the concerns of players than to live it. Well...once I get to that point that is. *looks far into the distance*

DapperChewie wrote:

Brigby, if you read this (and I genuinely hope you do), this thread here is a prime example of how to get in well with this community. We understand that this is your job (or at least an important part of it) and that you're new to the game. Ask us anything you have questions about, many of us are day 1000+ and have plenty of advice that we'd be happy to give you. There's lots of mistakes that are easy to make in the early or mid-game, (especially the 1-2 and 2-3 transition phases) and not only do we want you to know what they are and how to avoid them, (so you can go to the devs with a clear understanding of these problems), we don't want to see you make the same mistakes that so many new players make.

Well I certainly appreciate all the help. You've all given such a warm welcome. I hope to be able to take this gaming experience, and what I've learned, to the development team so we can provide them the means to a more efficient and effective way at solving current issues.

dsds wrote:

How was the long weekend? Did Brigby spend most of it on mpq? I think I am starting to develop an addiction to hearing about someone else's addiction.

I tried to control myself considering I was spending it with family. Couldn't help sneaking in some PvE when I got the chance though.

Punter1

Dormammu wrote:

I've decided to be nice and give you some tips that should help manage your life in spite of this addiction. Hope they are helpful.

3. If you have kids, task them with handling your light work. Let them take care of DDQ and easy nodes in PVE.

I wasn't sure if I was the only one practicing this great parenting technique. Try and time drives with the start of LRs so that they can farm those while en-route. Then get them tasked with trivial and easy nodes in PVE.

broll

Welcome Death wrote:

Second, a team of champ 4s doesn't make pvp easy...ask anyone with champ 4s. 900 is easy, sure, but 1200?

My point exactly, before you have a large number of 3* champs 900 is anything but easy, that's why I rarely put much effort into it. I've started to recently, but early on it's just frustrating.

MarkersMake wrote:

The covers and HP from PVP season rewards, as well as from Simulator, are well worth investing some time in PVP. As well, the heroic 10-pack at 4k season points is a great resource for making the transition from 2* to 3*, and is pretty easily achievable with a transitioning 3* roster

Now, you're right that focusing solely on PVP too early is frustrating, but you definitely shouldn't ignore it, if you can spare the time.

Agree on both. I usually do simulator and have been trying starting last season to hit the 10 pack, but focusing on PvP in the early game exclusively or more than PvE will just leave you frustrated from my experience. Until you get to many 3*s champed, starting to champ 4* focus PvE and only dabble in PvP. At some point it probably make sense to reverse that but I'm no there.

Brigby wrote:

spectator wrote:

Actually I feel brigby should open and roster 4/5*
It may give valuable feedback to the dev teams the effect this has on scaling and for them to act on it

That's the plan! I figured what better way to convey the concerns of players than to live it. Well...once I get to that point that is. *looks far into the distance*

That's actually a good plan.

bbigler

Punter1 wrote:

Dormammu wrote:

I've decided to be nice and give you some tips that should help manage your life in spite of this addiction. Hope they are helpful.

3. If you have kids, task them with handling your light work. Let them take care of DDQ and easy nodes in PVE.

I wasn't sure if I was the only one practicing this great parenting technique. Try and time drives with the start of LRs so that they can farm those while en-route. Then get them tasked with trivial and easy nodes in PVE.

Good idea, my 7 year old son is always begging me to play my game.

dsds

New release is upon us. So to feed my addiction to someone else's addiction... Will Brigby be playing for the new covers? Did you set some time on the weekend to grind?

Also how is your experience with the game? Give us an update on your pvp experience and pve experience. I need my fix!

Hendross

dsds wrote:

New release is upon us. So to feed my addiction to someone else's addiction... Will Brigby be playing for the new covers? Did you set some time on the weekend to grind?

Also how is your experience with the game? Give us an update on your pvp experience and pve experience. I need my fix!

Guess his rank without going over for a new release? I say 220 with the illusion of giving it effort.

Tromb2ch2

dsds wrote:

New release is upon us. So to feed my addiction to someone else's addiction... Will Brigby be playing for the new covers? Did you set some time on the weekend to grind?

I'm not sure brigby is high enough in cl to be able to get medusa. Shame too she looks like fun!

DFiPL

Tromb2ch2 wrote:

dsds wrote:

New release is upon us. So to feed my addiction to someone else's addiction... Will Brigby be playing for the new covers? Did you set some time on the weekend to grind?

I'm not sure brigby is high enough in cl to be able to get medusa. Shame too she looks like fun!

Yeah, Brigby ain't gonna be challenging for a placement cover, but event tokens are a thing and there's at least one event token obtainable at CL2.

dsds

I guess the addiction died. Tell us how you got rid of the addiction so we too can get rid of ours.

Brigby

dsds wrote:

I guess the addiction died. Tell us how you got rid of the addiction so we too can get rid of ours.

Oh it never died. Responsibilities just keep getting in the way of playing. Haha.

Having said that though...I did get to rank 158 during Hearts of Darkness a few days ago. Would've been top 50 if it wasn't for that annoying thing called sleep.

WelcomeDeath

What is this "sleep" you speak of?

OneLastGambit

Just in case...

Some of us on this forum are psychologists specialising in addictive and psychotic behaviour...just saying *wink*

fanghoul

OneLastGambit wrote:

Just in case...

Some of us on this forum are psychologists specialising in addictive and psychotic behaviour...just saying *wink*

Dedicating a chunk of my life to capturing an imaginary vampire does not make me psychotic!