The Hulk Event Discussion Thread

Kelbris

Puritas wrote:

I hope you guys learn your lesson from this and never reminisce about hulk event in a positive way again

They added an extra fight to each submission and made the main ones repeatable. This one took WAY more effort. if you wanted to be in the top 10.

However, I got a boatload of ISO, which is why I liked the Hulk event in the first place.

HailMary

BelligerentGnu wrote:

What are you at at the moment, Hailmary? I'm hovering at 170k, my individual battles just take too long to grind any more. Also I don't have BP or Punisher at any reasonable level.

243K, rank #51.

I'm doing the new nodes until either my team goes kaput, I just get too bored, or their point values all dip below 500.

I just have 2 covers in BP. He's really just a third wheel whose Rage of the Panther occasionally gets some use as a finisher. I do have 6 covers in Punisher, which is not terrible, but I haven't bothered leveling him past L40, since he doesn't do much unless Thor dies mid-match.

Unknown

I really wish these F'ing battles were not repeatable. This is going to be crazy. And I can't play past around 5 tomorrow. Sigh, and I'm even in the top 200.

I just realized, this is one case where scaling may save us. These are all going to go deadly super fast.

stowaway

Puritas wrote:

I hope you guys learn your lesson from this and never reminisce about hulk event in a positive way again

In 58 plus pages, this is the most important post in the entire thread.

morgh

Phantron wrote:

Let's say the mission average 1200 out of the 6 repeatable ones (a 7th one is repeatable at 300 but probably not something people would fight over). That means there are 1200 * 6 * 3 = 21600 points per refresh, and you can probably do 3 refreshes (assuming it refreshes at all), so you can get 64800 points in the last day.

So pretty much no lead is safe at the moment, unless you're ahead by a margin of 64800 points. That said, the difference between #1 and #76 (me) is about 30000 points, and people seem to be actually pretty well distributed at the moment, so we can assume you'll fall at least 150 places if you didn't do any mission. Of course I suspect the lower you go, the denser packed people tend to be. I guess it'd help if there's some point of reference to look at. I'm at #76 with 229K points, and #1 is at around 266K. Since there are only about 65K points left, more data points will give you a very rough (and I do mean by rough) of how much effort you need to hold certain places.

this... is quite strange... not sure how you can be at 76th place with 229k... maybe you meant 239k?
230k = 148th atm

morgh

Rajjeq wrote:

I really wish these F'ing battles were not repeatable. This is going to be crazy. And I can't play past around 5 tomorrow. Sigh, and I'm even in the top 200.

I just realized, this is one case where scaling may save us. These are all going to go deadly super fast.

pfff everything started from deadly 230 for me (and many others) - so who cares about scaling...

NorthernPolarity

225k = 214 right now.

Puritas wrote:

I hope you guys learn your lesson from this and never reminisce about hulk event in a positive way again

+1. People were blinded by the free Hulk cover so much that they forgot the endless grinding that accompanied it.

Unknown

I didn't grind too hard. Gonna finish with like 2 lazy Thor's and some good ISO. No complaints.

Unknown

Phantron wrote:

Let's say the mission average 1200 out of the 6 repeatable ones (a 7th one is repeatable at 300 but probably not something people would fight over). That means there are 1200 * 6 * 3 = 21600 points per refresh, and you can probably do 3 refreshes (assuming it refreshes at all), so you can get 64800 points in the last day.

Never thought they are able to ruin this event EVEN more.

Unknown

morgh wrote:

Phantron wrote:

Let's say the mission average 1200 out of the 6 repeatable ones (a 7th one is repeatable at 300 but probably not something people would fight over). That means there are 1200 * 6 * 3 = 21600 points per refresh, and you can probably do 3 refreshes (assuming it refreshes at all), so you can get 64800 points in the last day.

So pretty much no lead is safe at the moment, unless you're ahead by a margin of 64800 points. That said, the difference between #1 and #76 (me) is about 30000 points, and people seem to be actually pretty well distributed at the moment, so we can assume you'll fall at least 150 places if you didn't do any mission. Of course I suspect the lower you go, the denser packed people tend to be. I guess it'd help if there's some point of reference to look at. I'm at #76 with 229K points, and #1 is at around 266K. Since there are only about 65K points left, more data points will give you a very rough (and I do mean by rough) of how much effort you need to hold certain places.

this... is quite strange... not sure how you can be at 76th place with 229k... maybe you meant 239k?
230k = 148th atm

Yeah, missed a 10K there. My bad.

Moral

Psykopathic wrote:

I didn't grind too hard. Gonna finish with like 2 lazy Thor's and some good ISO. No complaints.

Everything jumped to solid 230s just before the Gamma Bomb bar filled. Everything from Sunday on was a grind.

Unknown

unless your aiming for top 200, top 1000 for 3 covers isn't that bad.
Been not touching nodes till they go past 2k-3.5k.
Hopefully it scales to the top for everybody so I can just do 1 lap before the event ends n keep my 3 cover place with minimal effort ( which was prob the point of scaling+rubberbanding).
Prob gonna do the same and wait till they're 1k a node.
thanks scaling for making grinders life hell

Unknown

Jeremychen wrote:

unless your aiming for top 200, top 1000 for 3 covers isn't that bad.
Been not touching nodes till they go past 2k-3.5k.
Hopefully it scales to the top for everybody so I can just do 1 lap before the event ends n keep my 3 cover place with minimal effort ( which was prob the point of scaling+rubberbanding).
Prob gonna do the same and wait till they're 1k a node.
thanks scaling for making grinders life hell

These nodes are already maxed at the 10X modifier because they're based on the overall main bracket leader.

daveomite

For me, I seem to be stuck in 20 iso land, again and again. Played almost all of the new nodes in the last few hours...probably 5-8 times each...90% 20 iso wins. Most still sitting at 1/4 rewards gotten..With a couple showing 2/4.

I want to stop and just get away from it, but then I realize, like the last 2 daily events...In the middle of the night, most of the nodes are in my range. If I go to sleep, once I'm back up, everything is 120-230 level baddies, so I can't really go for node rewards, much less keep my team alive for very long.

Be nice to not have to constantly play over and over right now...just to get all 4 rewards on each node.

The scaling makes me think of something like COD or a game like that. Take anyone, even a zombie game. Maybe you've played it numerous times, and know the levels almost by heart. You're up to the challenge and know you'll run low on ammo at least once or twice, but, you have a skilled character and can sneak up behind someone, slit their neck and take their gun if you need to.

However, now try COD with the trademark MPQ scaling...

any time you try to sneak behind someone, 15 ninjas jump out of nowhere and pummel your **** to a bloody pulp within seconds.

As you use a gun, not only do you lose ammo, you find its highly unique ammo and you can't replace it, making you toss your favorite weapon.

Any achievement you're close too, all of sudden it's been discontinued, so you accomplished absolutely nothing.

Any health pack you get, there is a 50/50 chance that it's actually poison.

Anytime you add a new member to your team, you must personally kill another member in a brutal death match hand to hand. Oh wait, I meant YOU only can use your hands, but the other guy, he still has his 50 cal fully loaded and pointed at your head.

Snipers....well, bypass those guns cause no matter how accurate you may be, even with a direct shot in your sights, the bullet will wind up killing some random cow 5000 yards away... behind you.

If you're in the middle of a massive gun fight and really getting pelted, you look around and spot a tank. Salvation! You manage to dodge a few more bullets, making your way to the tank...almost in slow motion with cinematic music swelling in the background of your mind at your heroic, gallant effort. You make it to the tank, climb inside to safety. Just as you are going to fire the main weapon that would destroy the bad guys, the tank implodes on itself, crushing you and your dreams.

ah yes, if only all games had scaling like that. Right.

NorthernPolarity

Phantron wrote:

Jeremychen wrote:

unless your aiming for top 200, top 1000 for 3 covers isn't that bad.
Been not touching nodes till they go past 2k-3.5k.
Hopefully it scales to the top for everybody so I can just do 1 lap before the event ends n keep my 3 cover place with minimal effort ( which was prob the point of scaling+rubberbanding).
Prob gonna do the same and wait till they're 1k a node.
thanks scaling for making grinders life hell

These nodes are already maxed at the 10X modifier because they're based on the overall main bracket leader.

Yeah, rubberbanding isn't going to help you here. I really dislike this format as it kinda makes the event into even more of an arms race. This feels like a Prisoner's Dilemma type of deal more so than usual: with the subs you could rely on rubberbanding to not fall behind on points. This last day is going to be more about how grindy the general population wants to get: we could all be happy and just do 1 refresh, or we can all suffer and be forced to grind 3 refreshes to maintain our position.

Mawtful

Looks like I'm going to finish pretty much right in the middle of the 3x Wolverine covers reward, as expected.

This event has been fantastic. I've just about weaned myself off MPQ entirely now. I'm happy to check in once or twice a day, play a handful of rounds and then forget about it. And I've still managed to come out with a stack of ISO and a bunch of heroic tokens waiting for Psylocke to join the cover pool.

I'm glad that they re-ran Hulk, now it should be out of our systems for a while. I'm looking forward to seeing what they do next.

Edit: Oh, and the best bit has been that about 95% of fights have been under level 100. Just been cruising through them.

kensterr

Since I unexpectedly sneaked into Top 200, I'm trying my best to stay in there just to get neutered Wolvie cover.

However not sure if anyone else has my incredible bad luck - AI wiped out my teams a few times and this is the first time all my health packs are used up. They get super cascades in about 2/3 matches for me, even though their level ain't too high. And Daken's strike tiles seem to be dealing more damage than before!

Unknown

Yeesh. Squeaked through the last storyline event with some extreme luck and a couple retributions. Slightly annoyed that I can't seem to climb high enough for three thors or drop low enough for three wolvies, but if I have to take 2 thors at least yellow and green are the ones I want.

Polares

Phantron wrote:

Let's say the mission average 1200 out of the 6 repeatable ones (a 7th one is repeatable at 300 but probably not something people would fight over). That means there are 1200 * 6 * 3 = 21600 points per refresh, and you can probably do 3 refreshes (assuming it refreshes at all), so you can get 64800 points in the last day.

...

This is TOO MUCH for the last day, with 65k you could win/loose to much in one day. I went to sleep 3 hours before the sub-event ended in the #40 position and when I woke up I was in the 160 !!! (In the last few days I have managed to remain always in the top100). Now I have beaten all the missions once and I am in the #74. You need to play hard today if you want any reward at all, play all the nodes more than once and repeat maybe even three times :S

I really really hope it doesn't refresh, but I doubt it...

Unknown

HailMary wrote:

Dang, 6 stacked nodes. Well, at least the levels aren't crazy just yet.

Would 250K likely be enough for final top 200?

Not a hope unless they do not refresh which I do not see happening. Ignoring the 300 point node we have two of the following at max rubber banding

1500/1200/900/600/300
1200/960/720/480/240
1000/800/600/400/200

Thats 22,200 points with 3 refreshed that 66,600 points. If the leaders do not play leapfrog they only get around 1/10th of that so anyone within about 60K after the last subs of the leader can get to with 6K by the end of the event. I can see top 200 closing well under maximum rubber banding length so it will be a race of who can kill the 3x230 nodes the fast at the end of the event for the top 200 slots.