Feb 28 - Mar 2 Fresh Cut: The Not-As-Fresh Sequel

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  • NorthernPolarity
    NorthernPolarity Posts: 3,531 Chairperson of the Boards
    locked wrote:
    ^ Why do you think the Mags/Spidey nerfs come as soon as in 1-2 weeks? There's just no saying yet, non?

    I asked IceIX about an ETA last week, and he said that the balance changes were closer to 2 weeks than 2 months, so we're looking at a timeframe of roughly 2 weeks to a month for these changes. I'm basing my leveling decision off of the worst case (which is 1-2 weeks), just in case.
  • I say pump some ISO into Mags but frankly he's a character that doesn't become more of a deterrent at a super high level - at least to high level players. His abilities are powerful 100 and by 141 you're borderline overkill.
  • NorthernPolarity
    NorthernPolarity Posts: 3,531 Chairperson of the Boards
    jozier wrote:
    I say pump some ISO into Mags but frankly he's a character that doesn't become more of a deterrent at a super high level - at least to high level players. His abilities are powerful 100 and by 141 you're borderline overkill.

    I'm currently in the level 30 Psylocke / level 85 OBW / 85 Wolvie MMR, so I'm less worried about high level players at the moment.
  • jozier wrote:
    I say pump some ISO into Mags but frankly he's a character that doesn't become more of a deterrent at a super high level - at least to high level players. His abilities are powerful 100 and by 141 you're borderline overkill.

    I'm currently in the level 30 Psylocke / level 85 OBW / 85 Wolvie MMR, so I'm less worried about high level players at the moment.

    Lucky. I have a level 100 Psylocke, 100 Spidey and 100 Patch. That's a deterrent to no one apparently.
  • Argh, due to placing highly in the last tournament, my MMR is highish right now such that I'm getting attacked constantly. My current offensive team is 50 Psylocke / 141 Punisher / 100 Mags, and I have 90k iso in the bank saved up. I'm considering just maxing out Mags, but with nerfs coming in 1-2 weeks, the time that he will still be useful is limited. I was going to dump all the iso into BP, but having a 141 mags might be intimidating enough to be worth dumping all the iso on him righ tnow... his purple is going to be his main ability in the future anyways so they can't nerf that too much. What do you guys think? I have pretty much max covers in all characters except Psylocke/4*s, but the only highly leveled 3*s I have are Hulk/Punisher/Mags.

    My best bet is hold for the changes + 1 week to see where the meta goes.

    Mags is a big risk, if you remember Rags... he might also mantain some nice power but change enough to not mesh well with your team anymore.
    PB only redeeming feature is health and his black (or so it looks), and you have already a very good black user maxed.

    How much point do you have to have to start being attacked a lot? Or, how much points have the leaders of you brackets?
    I feel I'm wasting too much in shields, but in the brackets I get into people seem to push only in the final hours, and that's usually my 5 am. I have no idea about what happens in the end anymore icon_e_sad.gif
  • jozier wrote:
    jozier wrote:
    I say pump some ISO into Mags but frankly he's a character that doesn't become more of a deterrent at a super high level - at least to high level players. His abilities are powerful 100 and by 141 you're borderline overkill.

    I'm currently in the level 30 Psylocke / level 85 OBW / 85 Wolvie MMR, so I'm less worried about high level players at the moment.

    Lucky. I have a level 100 Psylocke, 100 Spidey and 100 Patch. That's a deterrent to no one apparently.

    With a tank, I love Patch. With the Hulk, doubly so. Berserker Rage tends NOT to be able to down the Hulk, and Hulk's anger -generated greens tend to take out Patches strike tiles, while leaving the Purple ones on the table. I've found PVP versus Patch to be quick and easy compared to some other teams.
  • allorin wrote:
    jozier wrote:
    jozier wrote:
    I say pump some ISO into Mags but frankly he's a character that doesn't become more of a deterrent at a super high level - at least to high level players. His abilities are powerful 100 and by 141 you're borderline overkill.

    I'm currently in the level 30 Psylocke / level 85 OBW / 85 Wolvie MMR, so I'm less worried about high level players at the moment.

    Lucky. I have a level 100 Psylocke, 100 Spidey and 100 Patch. That's a deterrent to no one apparently.

    With a tank, I love Patch. With the Hulk, doubly so. Berserker Rage tends NOT to be able to down the Hulk, and Hulk's anger -generated greens tend to take out Patches strike tiles, while leaving the Purple ones on the table. I've found PVP versus Patch to be quick and easy compared to some other teams.

    Yeah I use Patch for quick fights on my end. I know he's not much of a deterrent on defense because I never worry about him. I'm debating replacing him with C Mags or BWGS or something.
  • NorthernPolarity
    NorthernPolarity Posts: 3,531 Chairperson of the Boards
    jozier wrote:
    jozier wrote:
    I say pump some ISO into Mags but frankly he's a character that doesn't become more of a deterrent at a super high level - at least to high level players. His abilities are powerful 100 and by 141 you're borderline overkill.

    I'm currently in the level 30 Psylocke / level 85 OBW / 85 Wolvie MMR, so I'm less worried about high level players at the moment.

    Lucky. I have a level 100 Psylocke, 100 Spidey and 100 Patch. That's a deterrent to no one apparently.

    The level 100 Psylocke is definitely scary, but the 100 Spidey/Patch are statswise equivalent to a level 85 2*, which aren't too scary.
    Il Palazzo wrote:
    Argh, due to placing highly in the last tournament, my MMR is highish right now such that I'm getting attacked constantly. My current offensive team is 50 Psylocke / 141 Punisher / 100 Mags, and I have 90k iso in the bank saved up. I'm considering just maxing out Mags, but with nerfs coming in 1-2 weeks, the time that he will still be useful is limited. I was going to dump all the iso into BP, but having a 141 mags might be intimidating enough to be worth dumping all the iso on him righ tnow... his purple is going to be his main ability in the future anyways so they can't nerf that too much. What do you guys think? I have pretty much max covers in all characters except Psylocke/4*s, but the only highly leveled 3*s I have are Hulk/Punisher/Mags.

    My best bet is hold for the changes + 1 week to see where the meta goes.

    Mags is a big risk, if you remember Rags... he might also mantain some nice power but change enough to not mesh well with your team anymore.
    PB only redeeming feature is health and his black (or so it looks), and you have already a very good black user maxed.

    How much point do you have to have to start being attacked a lot? Or, how much points have the leaders of you brackets?
    I feel I'm wasting too much in shields, but in the brackets I get into people seem to push only in the final hours, and that's usually my 5 am. I have no idea about what happens in the end anymore icon_e_sad.gif

    I actually really like BP: his yellow and blue are nice utility skills that while unexciting, are still pretty decent if you don't have anyone in those colors (making him pair well with Punisher), and his black at max covers is basically GSBW sniper rifle and will end a PvP match almost instantly, making it far superior to Punisher's black. His black + high hp along with extremely annoying defense tiles that will be hard to get rid of due to Mags nerf should make him a pretty good defense scarecrow like Hulk.

    While Rags did get nerfed hard, I have a good feeling that Mag's purple shouldn't be nerfed to the point of unusability. His blue is probably going to be nerfed and reduced to something like BP's blue, but as long as he has a strong purple, he still should be an okay match with Punisher.

    My bracket currently has someone with 660 points as the leader, but they tend to go up to 800-900 at the final stages of the tournament. I'm sitting at 500 and am getting hit with retaliations with the team i attacked with, which is why I'm considering leveling Mags. I have far fewer attacks against my defensive team of 141 Pun / 141 Hulk / 30 Psylocke (I've actually won ~3-4 matches on defense), so I'm worried about the offensive retaliations.
  • akboyce wrote:
    If you get Top 50 in PVE and Top 45 in PVP you will have one of each color.
    This is what I plan to do. Im already in a good position for the PVE and I can hit the PVP up and slowly grind out a top 45 to complete the colors for BP. Top 15 if I feel like putting the extra effort in.

    My plan also. ISO-8 Brotherhood tourney has gone a bit sour for me since I can't viably compete for top 10 anymore. I've grinded a lot past week but obviously not nearly enough... But I linger at rank 11-15 so top 50 placement is kind of assured by the end of tourney. Thus I'd be cut off Black Panther's yellow. But luckily this Fresh Cut round 2 compliments this lacking and offers yellow cover as the lowest BP reward. I'll settle for it but another black would be nice bonus. We'll see.

    I got **** with Psylocke since she's been utilized somewhat past PvE and PvP tourneys but her covers just elude me. So far she's only 2/1/0 and not a single Psylocke cover from any featured prize tokens. Pfft. Not going to let it repeat with Black Panther: I'm gonna catch (at least one of) 'em all!
  • I shielded at 776 I really hope it's enough to stay in top 5 this time. Currently the people in my bracket outside of top 3 have less than 600 points so I'm feeling optimistic. At the very least, that's one less bracket to worry about tonight.
  • NorthernPolarity
    NorthernPolarity Posts: 3,531 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited March 2014
    Decided to pump all my iso into mags: he's level 139 now. I figure that he deserves it given how he's been carrying my team for the past couple of weeks. Windfall, I think I'm in your bracket: just a heads up that I'm going to try for the yellow x-force.
  • My mmr increased a lot since the last lightning rounds and now for the most important event of the weak, my opponents are hard to kill icon_e_sad.gif
  • Microtom wrote:
    My mmr increased a lot since the last lightning rounds and now for the most important event of the weak, my opponents are hard to kill icon_e_sad.gif
    With all the ISO and HP You got You find it difficult? Noooooo way!
  • Decided to pump all my iso into mags: he's level 139 now. I figure that he deserves it given how he's been carrying my team for the past couple of weeks. Windfall, I think I'm in your bracket: just a heads up that I'm going to try for the yellow x-force.
    Good luck! I just want the BP covers.
  • Shielded at 700, if I smacked you and I'm in your retal pool, go nanners. Just hoping for top 5, and my MMR is sky high given I top-8'd the last two lightning rounds last week, and haven't slowed down... really need the next LR's to start up so I can tank again, ugh. icon_e_sad.gif
  • I shielded in the low 600s at #5 - hoping for top 15. I figured I had a choice of pushing in the PVE for BP or pushing here for BP and 1) I like PVE better, both specifically and in general, 2) I can probably get the 8000 ISO with a bit of work, and 3) my mmr is getting back up there, I'm having trouble finding good matches.
  • NorthernPolarity
    NorthernPolarity Posts: 3,531 Chairperson of the Boards
    Alright, farmed up to 800 and luckily shielded right before I got hit with -50 and -30 attacks. Hopefully this is enough for my first yellow wolvie cover. Bought a 3 hour shield so that I can farm up some points later just in case.
  • Alright, farmed up to 800 and luckily shielded right before I got hit with -50 and -30 attacks. Hopefully this is enough for my first yellow wolvie cover. Bought a 3 hour shield so that I can farm up some points later just in case.
    Good luck!
  • Alright, farmed up to 800 and luckily shielded right before I got hit with -50 and -30 attacks. Hopefully this is enough for my first yellow wolvie cover. Bought a 3 hour shield so that I can farm up some points later just in case.
    Nice roster. I wonder if there will be significantly more movement in our bracket.
  • Wow, jozier was right. His Psylocke was no deterrent at all. My bad.

    EDIT: Pulled a blue Psylocke from the 300 progression token. Any port in a storm.