Episode 4: Iso-8 Brotherhood Discussion

Yeggy

TheVulture wrote:

P.S. Don't ever 100% complete all the missions; still finish top 50 anyway because, all the feeble points do is boost everyone else's rubber bands.

- Points per mission have a rubber banding effect depending on your overall placement (ignoring brackets). This means that if your score is lower than the average for the position that you're in, your missions will be worth more compared to others in that same position. IE, if Bracket Alpha's 1st place has 750 points and Bracket Zeta has 500, Zeta's 1st will gain more points from missions to equalize brackets. This will filter down to lower ratings as well, since naturally in that case, 50th would necessarily be lower in Zeta compared to Alpha. This has the effect of allowing brackets to push higher as a group to achieve the further out rewards.

It seems to me grinding a bit isn't as bad as you may think, it helps everyone, not just people in your bracket.

TheVulture

Yeggy wrote:

It seems to me grinding a bit isn't as bad as you may think, it helps everyone, not just people in your bracket.

It's bad for me though in the sense that the rest of the event may be unplayably hard now.

I'll sit out the current round (at least they're only 24 hours), and hope finishing nowhere tomorrow down-levels them somewhat.

It's a shame the next PvP event is a Psylocke one, since if the update lands on schedule PvP could have been a nice ISO earner to try.

Pinning my MPQ hopes on lightning rounds this week, I think.

Unknown

Same here, I don't feel like playing the unfair battles (top daken+bulls in desert, ares+rags with green feeder) and such.
Will look back before end and enter some later sub. Probably say goodbye to panther, too bad.

The * tournament was interesting at start -- didn;t play those teams for some time, but become boredom pretty fast, fighting all the same match, no chance to not getting attacked due to same teams. And whoever enter with boosts it's a sitting duck contest completely.

PuceMoose

I've been enjoying the new content, but frustrated in my inability to get anywhere near one of the Panther covers so far. I thought I'd check to see if anyone else is having the same problem. I play each match that I can, generally once or twice, three times at the most. I don't have any desire to grind every point out of a fight, but I'll try to play enough to get the most valuable points. I've finished top 50 in all of the subs so far (except for one top 75) finish.
However, I am barely in the top FOUR HUNDRED in the overall rank points - I think I was in 396th place the last time I checked. Is this normal, or am I just in an exceptionally vicious bracket? It's disheartening to play for an hour, using up all of your heal packs, and only manage to get from 396th to 358th.

Nemek

Puce Moose wrote:

I've been enjoying the new content, but frustrated in my inability to get anywhere near one of the Panther covers so far. I thought I'd check to see if anyone else is having the same problem. I play each match that I can, generally once or twice, three times at the most. I don't have any desire to grind every point out of a fight, but I'll try to play enough to get the most valuable points. I've finished top 50 in all of the subs so far (except for one top 75) finish.
However, I am barely in the top FOUR HUNDRED in the overall rank points - I think I was in 396th place the last time I checked. Is this normal, or am I just in an exceptionally vicious bracket? It's disheartening to play for an hour, using up all of your heal packs, and only manage to get from 396th to 358th.

If you're really doing each mission 2-3 times and are only top 400, then you are likely mistiming your completions (it's easier said than done, though...because of life.)

NorthernPolarity

Puce Moose wrote:

I've been enjoying the new content, but frustrated in my inability to get anywhere near one of the Panther covers so far. I thought I'd check to see if anyone else is having the same problem. I play each match that I can, generally once or twice, three times at the most. I don't have any desire to grind every point out of a fight, but I'll try to play enough to get the most valuable points. I've finished top 50 in all of the subs so far (except for one top 75) finish.
However, I am barely in the top FOUR HUNDRED in the overall rank points - I think I was in 396th place the last time I checked. Is this normal, or am I just in an exceptionally vicious bracket? It's disheartening to play for an hour, using up all of your heal packs, and only manage to get from 396th to 358th.

In order to keep first in my bracket, I need to do 2 "full" clears of each sub (in which I grind the high value point missions ~3-4 times): I'm not sure if you can maintain a high rank by just doing 1 clear of the subs doing each mission 2-3 times. You need to time these clears such that they're as close to the end of the event as possible (ideally you want to finish your clear 8 hours before the end of the event and then right before the event ends: realistically you should give yourself some leeway and aim for your first clear such that you finish with ~12 hours left in the event so that you have 4 hours to clear the event once more).

Unknown

I have finished top 5 in every sub-mission....and gotten 6 Tinykitty America's out of 8 card pulls.


/sigh

Unknown

I'm getting real sick of everybody being 230, while the #1 in my main has a top character of 1* IM level 32

What's the point in progressing in this game if the more you progress, the more unplayable it becomes and someone just starting can pass you easily

Unknown

Really looking forward to leveling up Psylocke after the tournament closes tonight. Algeria cleaned my clock until I swapped out Patch for Punisher. I am starting to give the monochrome monster a second look.

Welcome back, Frank.

Unknown

Hrmm....

After nearly failing to register any points at all in the Hard mode last sub and almost failing to qualify for Hard mode in this sub, I decided to start testing the scaling system based on observations posted in this thread.

Still collecting more anecdotal observations from the covers in my Whimsical Task Force, but I think I see a relatively concrete trend appearing after a few rounds of observations so far. Looks like the TaT system is in full effect, with a minor modification I believe. Will say for sure after I can throw the multiple divisions of the **** under the bus a few more times.

One observation I can say for sure now though... the player's PvE MMR that determines the level for events for both subs are one and the same. Through slaughtering the **** exclusively in Hard mode (India), the levels of events in Algeria and the two qualifiers on the main map are decreasing. Although, there is that pesky modification I am still working on nailing down that is providing interesting observations to the contrary.

Food for thought.

Unknown

There is one good thing that came out of this event - I really didnt realize how good Magneto 2* Purple skill is. If I pair him with SpiderMan and Punisher he is even better than OBW.
OBW makes fight faster but Magneto makes it much more secure. Just got to have that 5 Purple and your set with blue for rest of the fight.

Unknown

So I came in top 5 in the first 4 brackets so far, I got rewarded 8 heroic assault tokens total. I was saving them to do a bunch at one time since I had horrible luck with the previous tournament (got about 16 total heroics from that one, every single pull was a 2*)

I log in just now......and all the tokens got converted to standard tokens.......****?

Had this happened to anyone else? Rewarded the proper tokens but then have them flipped?

I sent a petition, hope this gets resolved soon.

And I guess next time I'm using the tokens as soon as I get them.

eidehua

In the previous hard event, I saw one node (captain americas) that was reaching 200+, while my rest were creeping above 100 (Fin top 5). Now my india ones are ~100.

NorthernPolarity

Lyrian wrote:

Hrmm....

After nearly failing to register any points at all in the Hard mode last sub and almost failing to qualify for Hard mode in this sub, I decided to start testing the scaling system based on observations posted in this thread.

Still collecting more anecdotal observations from the covers in my Whimsical Task Force, but I think I see a relatively concrete trend appearing after a few rounds of observations so far. Looks like the TaT system is in full effect, with a minor modification I believe. Will say for sure after I can throw the multiple divisions of the **** under the bus a few more times.

One observation I can say for sure now though... the player's PvE MMR that determines the level for events for both subs are one and the same. Through slaughtering the **** exclusively in Hard mode (India), the levels of events in Algeria and the two qualifiers on the main map are decreasing. Although, there is that pesky modification I am still working on nailing down that is providing interesting observations to the contrary.

Food for thought.

Quite the secretive one, aren't we? I've tested throwing my tank team under the bus for this event, but it seems like it only works half the time: probably due to that "modification" that you've been hinting at.

Unknown

Mizake wrote:

So I came in top 5 in the first 4 brackets so far, I got rewarded 8 heroic assault tokens total. I was saving them to do a bunch at one time since I had horrible luck with the previous tournament (got about 16 total heroics from that one, every single pull was a 2*)

I log in just now......and all the tokens got converted to standard tokens.......****?

Had this happened to anyone else? Rewarded the proper tokens but then have them flipped?

I sent a petition, hope this gets resolved soon.

And I guess next time I'm using the tokens as soon as I get them.

Happens when your game loads the wrong version. viewtopic.php?f=9&t=3513

Unknown

Still all 230s....at this point, I just want to get 1 panther because I know he'll be a required character in the next PvE

Unknown

NorthernPolarity wrote:

Lyrian wrote:

Hrmm....

After nearly failing to register any points at all in the Hard mode last sub and almost failing to qualify for Hard mode in this sub, I decided to start testing the scaling system based on observations posted in this thread.

Still collecting more anecdotal observations from the covers in my Whimsical Task Force, but I think I see a relatively concrete trend appearing after a few rounds of observations so far. Looks like the TaT system is in full effect, with a minor modification I believe. Will say for sure after I can throw the multiple divisions of the **** under the bus a few more times.

One observation I can say for sure now though... the player's PvE MMR that determines the level for events for both subs are one and the same. Through slaughtering the **** exclusively in Hard mode (India), the levels of events in Algeria and the two qualifiers on the main map are decreasing. Although, there is that pesky modification I am still working on nailing down that is providing interesting observations to the contrary.

Food for thought.

Quite the secretive one, aren't we? I've tested throwing my tank team under the bus for this event, but it seems like it only works half the time: probably due to that "modification" that you've been hinting at.

That's what I'm still working on nailing down. I have a pretty good idea at this point, but I want sacrifice the **** to Ares one more time (T-minus 8 minutes as of this post) to see if the results remain consistent. If so, I'll post my logic for debate as I'll feel confident enough to toss the assertion out into the wild.

morgh

Ummm am I reading it correctly that I should sacrifice my all weak, unleveled characters to hard-mode events whenever I have the chance just to lower my PvE-MMR?

EDIT: :O I just did so (3 or 4 batches of sacrifices of weaklings) and levels went down by ~10 (just in one event I was tracking - I bet it went down in others too...)

Unknown

Had an unusual and peculiar observation in the last round ( I wasn't expecting this outcome) that I want to see if I can duplicate again in the next run in about half an hour or so.

Unknown

All I gotta say is my luck with event tokens is ALWAYS horrible. I've already gotten a few #1's in subs for ****. I'll be pretty sad if I don't get at least 1-2 Psylocke out of this. Not as worried about BP ATM. I'll get him down the road.