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ihearthawthats wrote:

Highly trained packs only contain buffed characters and Hulk isn't buffed?

Hulk is the final required character in the next round.

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I just had a beautiful battle.
My lineup - Original Black Widow (85) 4/5/4, Doctor Doom (38) 3/0, and Modern Storm (50) 5/5/3.
The foes - Hard Mode mission 4 - you know, the big payout one. It was up at 3000 points. I thought hey, why not.
Got wolverine down to 30% health with a combination of Storm's enviro-tile eating and Doctor Doom's wicked strike tiles (each one was doing approx 200 damage per turn - gotta love that!) before a crotch attack from Daredevil took out Storm - not sure which of the two walked away happier from that encounter but Storm was on her back afterward.
Black Widow stole AP and healed whilst Doctor Doom kept trying to lay down more strike tiles - narrowly avoided more traps from Crotchdevil in the process - and walked away from the match with less than 300 health on the doc and Widow, dragging the dazed and confused Storm along to safety (and possibly some industrial strength mouthwash).
Boom! 3000 points!
I know I won't get that lucky again.

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ihearthawthats wrote:

I haven't done this subs Dino yet, and don't really remember the last ones, but I typically used Loki/Daken/Patch, Mags/Daken/Hood, Doom/Daken/Storm. Many variations depending on the mission but usually always use the buffed villian. I do sub in Spidey to heal, but I wouldn't say the missions are unbeatable without him.

Hmm ok i exaggerated a bit but i feel so dependant of him actually and except Doom i don't have so much Villains covers at the moment.
I hope i'll get the top 5 from Blind Justice, need this Magneto full covers so hard(1/2/0 actually) and my first purple cover of him).

locked wrote:

That's my hard mode. Levels 201 - 202, sure, what the heck.


That's my normal mode. Wait, what?

Ahahaha good representation of actual problems of the game

over_clocked

dearbluey wrote:

Crotchdevil

LMAO. Why so true...

By the way any ideas how to beat classic Storm and oBW? Spidey goes there for sure, and IM 40 is forced on you, but who to take 3rd? I already tried Thor or something and failed on first try hilariously, what to do? Do I have any hope of beating them? I feel helpless without both mStorm AND oBW
My strongest characters aside from the girls are maxed Daken, Wolverine, lvl 61 Thor, buffed lvl 38 Ragnarok, buffed lvl 28 Doom.

Eddiemon

locked wrote:

That's my hard mode. Levels 201 - 202, sure, what the heck.


That's my normal mode. Wait, what?

I think it shows the system is sort of working. For those who have been playing a while there is no appreciable difficulty gap, but I think for the majority of peope who haven't found these forums, Hard Mode devil dino is the hardest battle in the game so he gets skipped. A lot.

It means their programming and their scaling system does work, they just have the tuning wrong. But hey, progress.

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FooFooFootDive wrote:

EvilSonGoku wrote:

FooFooFootDive wrote:

Ugh... This hulk/Thor/Ares team is going to be unbeatable once they get up to 200.

Lucky you. They already are 230 for me and I haven't even started the bracket.

Let me know how you do. I have a good enough roster I just don't know that any 3 chars can do it.

mStorm + Spidey or mStorm + oBW can handle any 3 healthiest and buffiest characters in the game if you add a damager like Doom, Daken or whoever... I have trouble with Storm and oBW, they rule out my own oBW AND mStorm... The scariest Simulator team for me would be mStorm/cStorm + Spidey + oBW because that would rule out every single useful support character I have. My Hood has one blue cover

Moral

locked wrote:

FooFooFootDive wrote:

EvilSonGoku wrote:

FooFooFootDive wrote:

Ugh... This hulk/Thor/Ares team is going to be unbeatable once they get up to 200.

Lucky you. They already are 230 for me and I haven't even started the bracket.

Let me know how you do. I have a good enough roster I just don't know that any 3 chars can do it.

mStorm + Spidey or mStorm + oBW can handle any 3 healthiest and buffiest characters in the game if you add a damager like Doom, Daken or whoever... I have trouble with Storm and oBW, they rule out my own oBW AND mStorm... The scariest team for me would be mStorm/cStorm + Spidey + oBW because that would rule out every single useful support character I have. My Hood has one blue cover

230 mStorm would scare the heck out of me. Filling the screen with Hailstorm at 30+ damage per tile? With her red and green, too?

They'd probably make it a desert board for spite.

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Clems wrote:

Is this event posible without Spidey (x/5/x) ?

Sure is, my Spidey has a lvl 3 stunlock, for example. But then I have to take oBW or mStorm along for AP generation. Some missions are doable without Spidey if you can use oBW instead to heal and steal (stealing is faster and more aggressive than stunning, but then you have to know exactly when to tank an exact colour and ALWAYS watch enemy AP levels). I just beat Devil Dino without Spider-Man twice, with AP boosts but I had some spare +3 all boosts anyway, so why not use them. You can manage without them fine, only have to watch red-black-green which is doable. Double doable with mStorm. Bag-Man can perform a Switcheroo out of the blue but it usually doesn't do anything.

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Moral wrote:

230 mStorm would scare the heck out of me. Filling the screen with Hailstorm at 30+ damage per tile? With her red and green, too?

They'd probably make it a desert board for spite.

mStorm rules any board /in their current probably broken condition hint hint Desert and Jungle/ except possibly City, because City fails in comparison. Latveria isn't great either, but still can grant a stun and some AoE damage on top.

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Storm is a goddess and who is your Hulk? oh wait Ares and Thor are literal gods I guess. Oh well.

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ihearthawthats wrote:

I haven't done this subs Dino yet, and don't really remember the last ones, but I typically used Loki/Daken/Patch, Mags/Daken/Hood, Doom/Daken/Storm. Many variations depending on the mission but usually always use the buffed villian. I do sub in Spidey to heal, but I wouldn't say the missions are unbeatable without him.

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ihearthawthats wrote:

allorin wrote:

I got a Hulk Red from a Highly Trained yesterday. Don't give up hope!

? Hulk isn't buffed?

I'm just going to go ahead and say... Huh?

Highly trained packs only contain buffed characters and Hulk isn't buffed?

Wasn't a pack, was a token. And Highly Trained tokens are giving out Chars who will be buffed too? Checked my token log, it was definitely a Highly Trained. My other one landed me a Moonstone.

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Eddiemon wrote:

locked wrote:

That's my hard mode. Levels 201 - 202, sure, what the heck.


That's my normal mode. Wait, what?

I think it shows the system is sort of working. For those who have been playing a while there is no appreciable difficulty gap, but I think for the majority of peope who haven't found these forums, Hard Mode devil dino is the hardest battle in the game so he gets skipped. A lot.

It means their programming and their scaling system does work, they just have the tuning wrong. But hey, progress.

These screen grabs show the system is defenitely NOT working. If you look carefull it shows his Hard mode levels are only 201-202, less than his normal mode levels)

Normal really should have a level cap of like 130, Hard mode 230, especially since hard already has like triple the amount of pts rewarded towards the full tournament.

Eddiemon

LoreNYC wrote:

These screen grabs show the system is defenitely NOT working. If you look carefull it shows his Hard mode levels are only 201-202, less than his normal mode levels)

Normal really should have a level cap of like 130, Hard mode 230, especially since hard already has like triple the amount of pts rewarded towards the full tournament.

Her screengrabs show the system as designed and explained is working. Not the system that you want or think it should be, but the system that Demiurge said was in place.

Nobody is playing Devil Dino hard mode much, or they are dying a lot and so its level is coming down. People are still completing it on Normal mode so its difficulty isn't dropping. That's how the system is meant to work.

If they manage to get it just right, then she might see all her easy mode levels on 230 because most people are beating them, and all her hard mode levels on 180-210 because most people are avoiding them. That would naturally segregate newer players into investing time into easy mode and veterans into investing time into hard mode. Without locking anyone out of anything. And if you have the time and inclination you can try and clear everything.

over_clocked

LoreNYC wrote:

These screen grabs show the system is defenitely NOT working. If you look carefull it shows his Hard mode levels are only 201-202, less than his normal mode levels)

Normal really should have a level cap of like 130, Hard mode 230, especially since hard already has like triple the amount of pts rewarded towards the full tournament.

They probably meant the fact that many people simply won't try for the hard mode hence the lowered levels.
But my main bracket is competitive like you don't know who, I guess my MMR got cranky again. Most people in my top 10 have considerably nicer rosters than me and I am a mid midlevel player. Never heard of them though, probably not forum goers.

SolidQ

oBW AND mStorm

yeah, i'm very easy kill with this combo ares + thor + hulk in hard mode

Most people in my top 10

i'm in top 10 on this screen

Eddiemon

locked wrote:

LoreNYC wrote:

They probably meant the fact that many people simply won't try for the hard mode hence the lowered levels.
But my main bracket is competitive like you don't know who, I guess my MMR got cranky again. Most of people in my top 10 have considerably nicer rosters than me and I am a mid midlevel player. Never heard of them though, probably not forum goers.

Ouch.

I'm second in mine and have managed to drag out a 30k gap to 10th place. Not really concerned about the IW, it would be a different matter if she were blue. 119k is #1 and I think I am about where your second place is.

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Eddiemon wrote:

locked wrote:

LoreNYC wrote:

They probably meant the fact that many people simply won't try for the hard mode hence the lowered levels.
But my main bracket is competitive like you don't know who, I guess my MMR got cranky again. Most of people in my top 10 have considerably nicer rosters than me and I am a mid midlevel player. Never heard of them though, probably not forum goers.

Ouch.

I'm second in mine and have managed to drag out a 30k gap to 10th place. Not really concerned about the IW, it would be a different matter if she were blue. 119k is #1 and I think I am about where your second place is.

Funny, that wasn't my quote

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I'm so sick of finding cheaters and/or people with 1* rosters with crazy high scores.

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I'm starting to feel PVE fatigue... Wish they'd cut these events down to 8 days, 2 days for subs.

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locked wrote:

Most people in my top 10 have considerably nicer rosters than me and I am a mid midlevel player. Never heard of them though, probably not forum goers.

I recognize a lot of those names (lilu, Beowulf, and a few others). Not forum-goers, but long time players.

Big ups to lilu, by the way. Grinders like that are putting the rest of this event on cruise control for me. I'm sitting at 106K (good for #1 with a ~10K lead), and all I've had to do is clear the challenge mission on hard 2-4 times each refresh to maintain (and even extend) my lead in my main. Particularly great for this sub - X-Force/DD/Goon is probably the easiest node 4 so far; I haven't boosted once for that fight.

Outside of a first pass at Hard/Easy each sub to skim the completion ISO, I've been perfectly content to grab the initial ISO and occasionally grind the goon missions for the 500ISO when I'm bored. With no need for Patch prog rewards, this should be a nice slow jaunt until the last 2 refreshes. I know my experience is different than many here, but I've been super-happy with how this one is going so far.

nihilium

Gosh no daken, thank whatever deity lol

I just somehow won against thor ares hulk in hard mode and it was ... fun o.o
Most of the time I spend praying, especially in the end with hulk, but... yeah it was fun

But I so dont get how the mission points develop after I grinded them down o.o
They seem to regenerate? But sometimes some just drop?
Help plox? Event is ending and I don't wanna mess it up

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walkyourpath wrote:

Outside of a first pass at Hard/Easy each sub to skim the completion ISO, I've been perfectly content to grab the initial ISO and occasionally grind the goon missions for the 500ISO when I'm bored. With no need for Patch prog rewards, this should be a nice slow jaunt until the last 2 refreshes. I know my experience is different than many here, but I've been super-happy with how this one is going so far.

Yeah I'm curious, if one finishes just top 20-50-whatever in the current subs, can one count for lower levels next round? Or for the rubberbanding kicking in? Still haven't started maximizing the profits, I just like to play whenever in the mood. Not that that would matter much with my roster, just curious. So that one could, too, just keep floating around top 10 in main without paying too much attention to subs? Is that what you're doing?