noobpotato wrote: Common wrote: NazgulPrime wrote: Honestly, don't even pretend to support a ridiculous patch such as this. I've spend real money on this game and all of it has been stolen by the devs in this update. If you want to play the character rebalance game, feel free, just learn to REIMBURSE EVERY SINGLE ISO-8 to the people who spent time and money leveling their team. How can it be remotely fair to ruin a team composition and say tough luck, all those hours and dollars are now wasted. Don't like it? Too bad, we don't care about our clients. I'll say this very clearly, I don't care if they completely cripple Thor (who now, at level 85 does less damage than Ironman at Level 50), Wolverine and any other character they feel like "rebalancing". What is equivalent to theft is not allowing players to spend their hard earned ISO-8 on another team to enjoy the game. Return the full 100,000 Iso it cost to level Cap Thor or Wolverine and see how many players still want to use your "Balanced" Thor and Wolverine. Devs, you already made money from me, why not allow me to enjoy the game and play different Heroes? As I don't believe the Devs will own up to their mistakes, I've already petitioned the Steam store for a full refund and I recommend that everyone does the same. Either they return ALL of our ISO-8 and hero coins so we may spend them on something that actually works now or we leave WITH OUR MONEY! Best regards, NazgulPrime +1 And to the people who wants to bash the other players and praise the devs. Know that the only people that is keeping this game alive are the paying customers like ourselves that really paid a huge investment for rest of you freeloaders to play. whose keeping this game alive? See where the game ends up when we 'whiners' are gone and you are only left with freeloaders! lol - "you freeloaders". Anytime you wanna whip out itunes receipts and compare - I'd gladly welcome a e-peen/money spent comparison showdown. Pretty sure you've just ousted yourself as the cheap **** since you're riding the coat tails of 2 star heroes. I was just implying that this game - I don't feel forced to pay as much as other games. There is ton of play to be had without spending any money if you choose to. On the points of thor doing less dmg - you do realize his skill grant him AP right? Wish you spent as much time making coherent points as crying about your money down the drain.
Common wrote: NazgulPrime wrote: Honestly, don't even pretend to support a ridiculous patch such as this. I've spend real money on this game and all of it has been stolen by the devs in this update. If you want to play the character rebalance game, feel free, just learn to REIMBURSE EVERY SINGLE ISO-8 to the people who spent time and money leveling their team. How can it be remotely fair to ruin a team composition and say tough luck, all those hours and dollars are now wasted. Don't like it? Too bad, we don't care about our clients. I'll say this very clearly, I don't care if they completely cripple Thor (who now, at level 85 does less damage than Ironman at Level 50), Wolverine and any other character they feel like "rebalancing". What is equivalent to theft is not allowing players to spend their hard earned ISO-8 on another team to enjoy the game. Return the full 100,000 Iso it cost to level Cap Thor or Wolverine and see how many players still want to use your "Balanced" Thor and Wolverine. Devs, you already made money from me, why not allow me to enjoy the game and play different Heroes? As I don't believe the Devs will own up to their mistakes, I've already petitioned the Steam store for a full refund and I recommend that everyone does the same. Either they return ALL of our ISO-8 and hero coins so we may spend them on something that actually works now or we leave WITH OUR MONEY! Best regards, NazgulPrime +1 And to the people who wants to bash the other players and praise the devs. Know that the only people that is keeping this game alive are the paying customers like ourselves that really paid a huge investment for rest of you freeloaders to play. whose keeping this game alive? See where the game ends up when we 'whiners' are gone and you are only left with freeloaders!
NazgulPrime wrote: Honestly, don't even pretend to support a ridiculous patch such as this. I've spend real money on this game and all of it has been stolen by the devs in this update. If you want to play the character rebalance game, feel free, just learn to REIMBURSE EVERY SINGLE ISO-8 to the people who spent time and money leveling their team. How can it be remotely fair to ruin a team composition and say tough luck, all those hours and dollars are now wasted. Don't like it? Too bad, we don't care about our clients. I'll say this very clearly, I don't care if they completely cripple Thor (who now, at level 85 does less damage than Ironman at Level 50), Wolverine and any other character they feel like "rebalancing". What is equivalent to theft is not allowing players to spend their hard earned ISO-8 on another team to enjoy the game. Return the full 100,000 Iso it cost to level Cap Thor or Wolverine and see how many players still want to use your "Balanced" Thor and Wolverine. Devs, you already made money from me, why not allow me to enjoy the game and play different Heroes? As I don't believe the Devs will own up to their mistakes, I've already petitioned the Steam store for a full refund and I recommend that everyone does the same. Either they return ALL of our ISO-8 and hero coins so we may spend them on something that actually works now or we leave WITH OUR MONEY! Best regards, NazgulPrime
Jester Day wrote: Likewise, your assumption that no paying customers support the development as it is made an **** out of you. Because there are several customers doing so as well. Likely in categories both smaller paying, bigger paying, and equal to you, Common.
And to the people who wants to bash the other players and praise the devs. Know that the only people that is keeping this game alive are the paying customers like ourselves that really paid a huge investment for rest of you freeloaders to play. whose keeping this game alive?
Puritas wrote: edit: also I realize that the respec option is a lot of work that still isn't ready, but the resell option just is a poor alternative when the entire playerbase had builds that are no longer optimal
Jester Day wrote: And to the people who wants to bash the other players and praise the devs. Know that the only people that is keeping this game alive are the paying customers like ourselves that really paid a huge investment for rest of you freeloaders to play. whose keeping this game alive? These sentences means exactly that all the people bashing other players and agreeing with the devs are freeloaders. Aka, those not paying. People who are paying are also siding with the devs. It is exactly what you said, in plain english. Edit: Plural.
Common wrote: Jester Day wrote: Likewise, your assumption that no paying customers support the development as it is made an **** out of you. Because there are several customers doing so as well. Likely in categories both smaller paying, bigger paying, and equal to you, Common. You can agree to disagree. But all you done is put words onto peoples mouth. When did I say that no paying customers are the only one supporting the development? What I stated was that people like myself who puts in huge investments are the only one whose keeping this game alive. Paying $5 here and there won't be keeping this game alive. Which is true. And please let me know when you can actually read everything I've said instead of nitpicking and trying to make devs into a victim card.
Celerity wrote: Common wrote: Jester Day wrote: Likewise, your assumption that no paying customers support the development as it is made an **** out of you. Because there are several customers doing so as well. Likely in categories both smaller paying, bigger paying, and equal to you, Common.[/quote You can agree to disagree. But all you done is put words onto peoples mouth. When did I say that no paying customers are the only one supporting the development? What I stated was that people like myself who puts in huge investments are the only one whose keeping this game alive. Paying $5 here and there won't be keeping this game alive. Which is true. And please let me know when you can actually read everything I've said instead of nitpicking and trying to make devs into a victim card. The amount of money that this game has received from people who've spent under $50 lifetime is much greater than the amount from people who've spent over $50 lifetime, and it's not even close. Do you have any idea how F2P pricing models work?
Common wrote: Jester Day wrote: Likewise, your assumption that no paying customers support the development as it is made an **** out of you. Because there are several customers doing so as well. Likely in categories both smaller paying, bigger paying, and equal to you, Common.[/quote You can agree to disagree. But all you done is put words onto peoples mouth. When did I say that no paying customers are the only one supporting the development? What I stated was that people like myself who puts in huge investments are the only one whose keeping this game alive. Paying $5 here and there won't be keeping this game alive. Which is true. And please let me know when you can actually read everything I've said instead of nitpicking and trying to make devs into a victim card. The amount of money that this game has received from people who've spent under $50 lifetime is much greater than the amount from people who've spent over $50 lifetime, and it's not even close. Do you have any idea how F2P pricing models work?
Jester Day wrote: Likewise, your assumption that no paying customers support the development as it is made an **** out of you. Because there are several customers doing so as well. Likely in categories both smaller paying, bigger paying, and equal to you, Common.[/quote You can agree to disagree. But all you done is put words onto peoples mouth. When did I say that no paying customers are the only one supporting the development? What I stated was that people like myself who puts in huge investments are the only one whose keeping this game alive. Paying $5 here and there won't be keeping this game alive. Which is true. And please let me know when you can actually read everything I've said instead of nitpicking and trying to make devs into a victim card.
aboudreau wrote: Personally I like most of the changes. I was addicted to boosts like most people and it made see certain covers on defense trivial. Just knock down OBW or Spidey before they can get you locked up. No prob. Now I fear those matchups. The problem I have with it is the charging 100 HP for something that is bigger advantage than fifty extra levels. It really will allow the whales who will pay whatever to have free reign. The rainbow boost was op. Just take it out. Or make it drop only. As for the nerfs. I like that too. Thor is still a beast. He and OBW will still be on lotsbof teams. I'm keeping my wolvie too. Still the third best two star. The changes allow the game to still progress. What were we getting out of this game if not t drops and new covers. Now with Thorverine toned down I am that much more excited about getting new covers for hulk and punisher and patches and the rest of the three stars. Anyway. Overall I think the changes were needed, just take away boosting all together though instead of the huge advantage going to small well funded group.
Common wrote: Celerity wrote: Common wrote: Jester Day wrote: Likewise, your assumption that no paying customers support the development as it is made an **** out of you. Because there are several customers doing so as well. Likely in categories both smaller paying, bigger paying, and equal to you, Common.[/quote You can agree to disagree. But all you done is put words onto peoples mouth. When did I say that no paying customers are the only one supporting the development? What I stated was that people like myself who puts in huge investments are the only one whose keeping this game alive. Paying $5 here and there won't be keeping this game alive. Which is true. And please let me know when you can actually read everything I've said instead of nitpicking and trying to make devs into a victim card. The amount of money that this game has received from people who've spent under $50 lifetime is much greater than the amount from people who've spent over $50 lifetime, and it's not even close. Do you have any idea how F2P pricing models work? When did I ever say there's more people that spends over $50 than ppl that spends less?
Celerity wrote: You said people who spend a lot of money are keeping the game afloat, but it's the opposite. Those who spend a little contribute vastly, vastly more income to the devs than the few who spend a lot. There are some F2P games where whales run the economy, but MPQ is certainly not one of them.
The top 10 percent of players can account for as much as 50 percent of all in-app purchase revenue,” says Andy Yang, CEO of the mobile monetization research firm PlayHaven.
Toxicadam wrote: Celerity wrote: You said people who spend a lot of money are keeping the game afloat, but it's the opposite. Those who spend a little contribute vastly, vastly more income to the devs than the few who spend a lot. There are some F2P games where whales run the economy, but MPQ is certainly not one of them. How do you know this with such great certainty? The top 10 percent of players can account for as much as 50 percent of all in-app purchase revenue,” says Andy Yang, CEO of the mobile monetization research firm PlayHaven. http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2012/11/m ... hales/all/ Every iOS dev I've spoken to on internet gaming forums has pretty much confirmed the same thing.
Toxicadam wrote: That data is based on ALL apps, not just CoC. So, again, how can YOU speak with such certainty about how money is spent in this game?
NighteyesGrisu wrote: so what's up with all the whine? everybody knew that the thorverine nerf was coming for weeks, and IMO the nerf's a lot better than rag for instance. Wolverine is still ar good **-Char. As for the 'freeloaders', you seem to make the mistake to believe that a) non-paying players are 'freeloaders' to begin with. b) all or even a large portion of the paying customers feel like you. I for one am quite happy with the game, and even though I don't like some of the changes, all added up they improve the game rather than ruin it. Also, i have this - admittedly old fashioned - idea that the point of this game is not to have the most devastating team but to have fun playing... Every change will piss of someone, that's in the nature of change. But stagnation would be the fastest way to kill this game...