Stop using the RNG to determine cover order

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If I was working from within the company to demonstrate how stupid relying on the RNG is, I couldn't come up with a better demonstration of it than what they're doing with Ragnarok.

This is the stupidest power roll-out ever.

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NorthernPolarity wrote:

Rags blue is so bad that even if I were to win one, I wouldn't apply for PvP because on top of it being worthless on defense in PvP (of which many abilities are), the charge tiles will actually accelerate MY OPPONENT on defense.... This is like by far the most worthless cover we've seen in perhaps the history of the game...

Serious question: does this mean the optimal rags build is 5/5/0? If so, I'd be glad to soft cap him and warehouse him indefinitely, and put my scarce ISO elsewhere.

SnowcaTT

Haven't pretty much -all- of the newest covers or best covers been T5 only rewards for the following PVP? It's getting to be so common it almost seems like it isn't random....

More RNG badness is no Groot Yellow events before he's getting put away. There needs to be one PVP T100 for each color before they are sent to the great abyss.

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SnowcaTT wrote:

Haven't pretty much -all- of the newest covers or best covers been T5 only rewards for the following PVP? It's getting to be so common it almost seems like it isn't random....

Loki was top 5 (but given out in the Gauntlet first); Doom was the low/Alliance prize.

dr tinykittylove

Ben Grimm wrote:

SnowcaTT wrote:

Haven't pretty much -all- of the newest covers or best covers been T5 only rewards for the following PVP? It's getting to be so common it almost seems like it isn't random....

Loki was top 5 (but given out in the Gauntlet first); Doom was the low/Alliance prize.

Wasn't doom top 5 for the first pvp that rewards him after unvaulting, then only became the low prize for the most recent round?

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dr tinykittylove wrote:

Ben Grimm wrote:

SnowcaTT wrote:

Haven't pretty much -all- of the newest covers or best covers been T5 only rewards for the following PVP? It's getting to be so common it almost seems like it isn't random....

Loki was top 5 (but given out in the Gauntlet first); Doom was the low/Alliance prize.

Wasn't doom top 5 for the first pvp that rewards him after unvaulting, then only became the low prize for the most recent round?

I should have clarified - Doom was the low/alliance for the PVE that he was first offered in, then top 5 for the first PVP (which followed).

Xenoberyll

Ben Grimm wrote:

If I was working from within the company to demonstrate how stupid relying on the RNG is, I couldn't come up with a better demonstration of it than what they're doing with Ragnarok.

This is the stupidest power roll-out ever.

Yeah, it's like "Hey! We made an awesome new power to Ragnarök, but you can't have it" Hah hah!

I'd be really mad if his new powers were indeed awesome

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Quicksilver has now had his black cover as the top twice in a row. Not the PVE progression award.

Devs, you have to admit that the RNG just isn't working. I'll repeat what I said before:

Initial PVE awards cover in ABC order.
PVP awardscovers in CBA order.
PVE and PVP progression awards both B.
Rotate afterwards.

Reliance on the RNG is both completely unnecessary and actively harming the game. This is easy to fix, and it would make the game better. Fix it.

fmftint

But then they would have to do more than just change the character.

Vankysher

Ben Grimm wrote:

Quicksilver has now had his black cover as the top twice in a row. Not the PVE progression award.

Devs, you have to admit that the RNG just isn't working. I'll repeat what I said before:

Initial PVE awards cover in ABC order.
PVP awardscovers in CBA order.
PVE and PVP progression awards both B.
Rotate afterwards.

Reliance on the RNG is both completely unnecessary and actively harming the game. This is easy to fix, and it would make the game better. Fix it.

But it's not automated by a software program so it can't be efficient!

Xenoberyll

Vankysher wrote:

Ben Grimm wrote:

Quicksilver has now had his black cover as the top twice in a row. Not the PVE progression award.

Devs, you have to admit that the RNG just isn't working. I'll repeat what I said before:

Initial PVE awards cover in ABC order.
PVP awardscovers in CBA order.
PVE and PVP progression awards both B.
Rotate afterwards.

Reliance on the RNG is both completely unnecessary and actively harming the game. This is easy to fix, and it would make the game better. Fix it.

But it's not automated by a software program so it can't be efficient!

who says you can't automate the order? It just won't be random. They already do it in Deadpool's daily.

Pylgrim

Yep, this is the 4th time Gamora has been awarded and her black has never been the bottom reward. In fact, if memory serves well, Black has been the top (hardest) reward thrice and the middle once.

GrimSkald

Yep. Thor Yellow and Punisher Green haven't been the easiest reward since at least mid last year. It is just plain stupid - these covers should just plain rotate. Noone can accuse anyone of favoritism if they rotate. For example:

Intro PVE - RGB, Intro PVP - GBR, 2nd PVP - BRG, 3rd PVP RBG (or BGR if you really want to mix it up)

Unknown

When will we drop the words and pick up the forks? Looks like the only way to make D3 rethink stuff in order to truly make the playerbase at least neutral; even if not making everyone enjoy it (which would be impossible) at least wont make half of the players angry.

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One of the things that strikes me about how stupid this is is that it probably costs them potential sales. If everyone can get one of each cover, they can actually buy covers for a good character (i.e., not Quicksilver). And when a character is 0/0/5 or 0/5/5, you can't and won't buy any more for the character.

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Ben Grimm wrote:

One of the things that strikes me about how stupid this is is that it probably costs them potential sales. If everyone can get one of each cover, they can actually buy covers for a good character (i.e., not Quicksilver). And when a character is 0/0/5 or 0/5/5, you can't and won't buy any more for the character.

I've often thought this as well, and have probably said so several times around these parts, but the reality is they'd probably rather fish for pack sales from people who are some combination of wealthy, stupid, and desperate. Whether this makes more money for them in the long run I certainly couldn't tell you.

GrumpySmurf1002

Ben Grimm wrote:

One of the things that strikes me about how stupid this is is that it probably costs them potential sales. If everyone can get one of each cover, they can actually buy covers for a good character (i.e., not Quicksilver). And when a character is 0/0/5 or 0/5/5, you can't and won't buy any more for the character.

Flip side, by making one cover (unintentionally?) scarce, they may be driving sales to packs, with players trying to get the elusive one that way. Not anyone here of course, but I'm sure they exist.

Arondite

Rng my bum. They choose which ones go where to make the most desirable covers the rarest and then tell us it's random to mitigate anger lol

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Arondite wrote:

Rng my bum. They choose which ones go where to make the most desirable covers the rarest and then tell us it's random to mitigate anger lol

But...but...that would mean they lied to us. They would never lie to us about important things like that, would they? That would be mean.

OnesOwnGrief

Thugpatrol wrote:

Arondite wrote:

Rng my bum. They choose which ones go where to make the most desirable covers the rarest and then tell us it's random to mitigate anger lol

But...but...that would mean they lied to us. They would never lie to us about important things like that, would they? That would be mean.

My friend, have you heard of "Return Of The Mack"?