DumDumDugn wrote: He's the batman of the marvel universe. He's not the strongest but he can beat anybody.
Unity wrote: Strongest in Marvel universe : Beyonder Jean Grey ( Phoniex ) Galactus Franklin Richards Hulk Gladiator Apocalypse Silver Surfer Thor Dr doom has no chance against any of them so he is not strong at all and im sure its alot of people who would out do him. He gas no chane even against people like magneto amd moonstone.
Psykopathic wrote: Ok so I'm not super big on comics but I watch some movies. When I see wolverine as a 2* I just think back to wolverine and jean at the end of the movie with his flesh all ripping off and what not and just can't imagine him not being at least a 3.
Unity wrote: Psykopathic wrote: Ok so I'm not super big on comics but I watch some movies. When I see wolverine as a 2* I just think back to wolverine and jean at the end of the movie with his flesh all ripping off and what not and just can't imagine him not being at least a 3. That was the movies. In the comics phoniex would have vanished him in a heart beat. Even Scarlet Witch can beat him by saying " no more wolverine " .
Emotive wrote: Doctor Doom can defeat ANYONE with preperation.
Unity wrote: Strongest in Marvel universe : Beyonder Jean Grey ( Phoniex ) Galactus Franklin Richards Hulk Gladiator Apocalypse Silver Surfer Thor One above all Molecule man Dr doom has no chance against any of them so he is not strong at all and im sure its alot of people who would out do him. He has no chane even against people like magneto amd moonstone.
GT-47LM wrote: Emotive wrote: Doctor Doom can defeat ANYONE with preperation. Can he also defeat other characters who can defeat anyone with prep time?
Katai wrote: Scarlet Witch and Wiccan would have to rank up there in the most powerful. Reality benders are dangerous creatures. I would put Doom pretty high on my list. He's a master at science AND sorcery, and a tactical genius as well. Wolverine is low-tier, but basically invincible. I'd kill for a James Howlett (X-treme X-men) variant, though
Emotive wrote: Who is better than who is always a fun but opinionated discussion but Doom is the exception to the rule. Doom is quite known for being the best of the best in the Marvel universe, no matter who writes for him. The only person who can defeat Doom is himself. It seems most of you, this is your first time hearing about Doom.
DumDumDugn wrote: Katai wrote: Scarlet Witch and Wiccan would have to rank up there in the most powerful. Reality benders are dangerous creatures. I would put Doom pretty high on my list. He's a master at science AND sorcery, and a tactical genius as well. Wolverine is low-tier, but basically invincible. I'd kill for a James Howlett (X-treme X-men) variant, though Wolv's healing powers have been taken away so many times now by a ton of different things. Plus, you can drown him (that's how he killed Daken) Also, scarlet witch's insane power levels were attributed to dr. doom. She's no longer at that level. Wiccan is stupidly strong though, but he can't control it.
Katai wrote: DumDumDugn wrote: Katai wrote: Scarlet Witch and Wiccan would have to rank up there in the most powerful. Reality benders are dangerous creatures. I would put Doom pretty high on my list. He's a master at science AND sorcery, and a tactical genius as well. Wolverine is low-tier, but basically invincible. I'd kill for a James Howlett (X-treme X-men) variant, though Wolv's healing powers have been taken away so many times now by a ton of different things. Plus, you can drown him (that's how he killed Daken) Also, scarlet witch's insane power levels were attributed to dr. doom. She's no longer at that level. Wiccan is stupidly strong though, but he can't control it. Avengers vs X-men still puts her power level on Phoenix Force levels, but comics are kind of dumb when it comes to that sort of thing. Power levels are highly relative, and a lot of it is conceptual. Like how Jubilee's powers a mini fusion reactions, and she could throw someone into seizures by popping a spark into someone's brain.
DumDumDugn wrote: Emotive wrote: Who is better than who is always a fun but opinionated discussion but Doom is the exception to the rule. Doom is quite known for being the best of the best in the Marvel universe, no matter who writes for him. The only person who can defeat Doom is himself. It seems most of you, this is your first time hearing about Doom. Arguing with doom noobs is frustrating sometimes
GT-47LM wrote: DumDumDugn wrote: Emotive wrote: Who is better than who is always a fun but opinionated discussion but Doom is the exception to the rule. Doom is quite known for being the best of the best in the Marvel universe, no matter who writes for him. The only person who can defeat Doom is himself. It seems most of you, this is your first time hearing about Doom. Arguing with doom noobs is frustrating sometimes I was reading some of dooms stories, and back to the other post about how the writer determines how strong a character is, he is right. When doom is defeated, it was actually a "doom bot," but when he actually wins, it is actually dr doom. In this case, pretty much any character in the marvel universe could be the strongest if the writer wanted them too.