Event End Times Feedback Request - Hulk 'Smash Hit'

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The slicing + MMR rules certainly seem a little restricted in terms of how quickly brackets fill up.

For instance, I didn't even click on the Hollowpoint icon until last night (4 hrs to go in slice 4) and then picked my slot. I was player #370 to enter that bracket so I was a little shocked to see that the top 10 had scores around 1100.

What this signalled to me was that the bracket must have taken aaaaages to fill up based on the slice/MMR requirements and I was facing off against players who had (I'd guess) around 12-14 hours in the bracket before I joined.

So, a lesson I've learned is that joining very late under the new system is incredibly risky.

Spoit

Ebolamonkey84 wrote:

Haven't been able to read through this whole thread, but does anyone know how the alliance scoring works with regards to adding a new person whose shard has already ended? Is it just whoever is in it at the end of the last shard?

Apparently, yes: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=19582

Polares

HawkeyeSucks wrote:

areacode212 wrote:

I like the changes because it's nice to be able to do something with my late nights besides be glued to my phone until 1am to make sure I get a cover.

So much this. I finished pvp at 4pm EST on a Sunday. It was the best feeling.

Yep it is really great.

Now, if we had this implemented too in PvE, it would be really great (In this last TAT - Groot reward, ALL sub-nodes finish at 6am, **** D3 ?!?!?!).

Unknown

After a few days and two full PVPs with this:

I'm having a mixed reaction at this point. The trouble for me is that I've been in psychotic death brackets 2/2 times now (jury's still out on the new PVP), and I don't want to be in them. For a while, sharding was allowing me to take it relatively easy, score 700-900 or so points, and get top 10 or top 25. And that was fine. I don't like PVP very much, but the developers have decided that that's the most important part of the game, so it gets that much attention.

The best solution for me is probably to start picking brackets that are at a lousy time for me. I almost never push to 1000+ as it is, so losing that isn't really a problem for me. The problem, of course, is that a non-ideal time is non-ideal. And it might take me a bit to figure out which slice I want. But it's not the end of the world, and if I can completely avoid the slices the top alliances are in, I should be ok.

What I think we're going to see is that the slices - if they stay consistent - are going to sort into various levels of difficulty. There will be a "Hard" slice (probably the 1 am Eastern one) where it's harder to rank high but easier to score high, an "easy" one where ranking is easy but you're lucky to get 800 points, and a few in the middle.

I'd also say this: this is a feature needed more in PVE than PVP, but it might, once things settle down, have some unexpected bonuses for PVP, too. As well as unexpected downsides. As expected.

Unknown

My thoughts through 2 events.

Hulk (Slice 3) - Score 650. Bracket top10 775, leader 1500.
GSBW (Slice 4) - Score 809. Bracket top10 1309, leader 1915.

I played the same for both events, but was only finding 17 point targets to climb on during Hulk, compared to 25-30 point targets to climb on during GSBW. Additionally, when I shielded in both events, I could only find 20-22 point opportunities to hop on in Hulk, but found a 50 and a 49 point in GSBW (Thank you X-Men).

I averaged 825 per PvP last season, so playing in slice 4 was very similar to the prior events. My thought is that there may need to be score normalization across the slices. Perhaps a reduction of the points lost during a match if the average score of a slice is below a certain threshold. While the average scores do not need to be equal across all slices, they need to be closer than they are currently. While individual brackets are contained within the same slice, alliance brackets span all 5 slices so there needs to be more consistency between scoring in the 5 slices.

Unknown

I have noticed a dichotomy in this event end time situation:
And these opinions are formed based on the evidence I got from my own experiences as well as the experiences of my alliance members.

The way I see it, you have two options when it comes to picking your time slot:
1. You go with time slot 1, 2, 3 or 5. In these time slots, you can get top 5 or even top 1 pretty easily.

I had 3 alliance members get around 800-900 and get top 5. They had never gotten top 5 before prior to this past PVP.
The problem is, that is basically where you top out. They wanted to get more points, but they couldn't because all they could find were 15 or fewer point matches. And if they ever unshielded, they'd be massacred because they are at the top of their brackets.

And, in case you were wondering, this isn't a situation where they have weak rosters so they are put in a favorable bracket. Before the event end time stuff, they were always in brackets where the top 1 is an Xman with 2000 points or more, as well as many other 1500-1900 players.

2. You go with time slot 4. In this time slot, you can get 1300 points pretty easily, but you'll need to push really hard for top 5 or top 1.

I had 5 alliance members, myself included, who chose this time slot and saw rankings with a minimum of 5 people with over 2k in their bracket. I was spending the whole day yesterday with family, so I stopped at 1050, rather than going to my usual 1300 (and because I had 5 purple GSBW covers and already max covered IW). But even at 1050, I had 2 50s and a 45 sitting in my nodes. And I'm sure there were many more to be found if I wanted to climb more.


This makes it a little frustrating to decide what time slot to choose.

I want to choose a time slot that ends earlier than 1pm Wednesday. I would love to be done before I drive 9 hours to my Grandparents' house for Thanksgiving. But I can't, because I already have a max covered Daken and a max covered Iron man, so in order to get anything out of this PVP, I need to get 1300 points for the Nick Fury cover.

Since I can't get more than 1000 points in slots 1, 2, 3 or 5, I have to enter time slot 4.

That is how I'll be making my decisions from now on. Do I need the covers for the reward? I'll go 1, 2, 3 or 5. Do I need the progression rewards or more points on the season? I go with time slot 4.

Why is it like this? I'm not sure. I'm assuming its because people fear change. So the xmen and the other top alliances are just sticking with what is familiar. PVP end times were never the problem anyway.


But unless someone has some proof otherwise, I am going to go ahead and operate based on this post. I don't see any other reason to think otherwise.

Unknown

I played at least 6 fights and was not awarded any points. Took a while to finally get issue resolved missed most of the event. Because g push at the end got me to about 60 rank. Would have finished much higher.

mouser

Another observation: if time shards are going to be the norm going forward then PVP's should probably all end at the same local time of day. Rather then the current system of rotating 12 hours.

energythief

I was directed to this thread by Customer Service for information about compensation for players like me who were negatively affected by the zero point bug.

I scanned the thread but can't seem to find instructions... can anyone help point me to the info?

Thanks!

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energythief wrote:

I was directed to this thread by Customer Service for information about compensation for players like me who were negatively affected by the zero point bug.

I scanned the thread but can't seem to find instructions... can anyone help point me to the info?

Thanks!

I had not heard about compensation. I would pm Hi-Fi your situation before you get run in too many circles.

_RiO_

energythief wrote:

I was directed to this thread by Customer Service for information about compensation for players like me who were negatively affected by the zero point bug.

Wait.. what?
I don't think this thread ever discussed compensation outside of what I initially stated; if the event would not be fixed in time for the affected people to correct their scores, D3P/Demiurge should offer compensation to them. But the event was fixed with plenty of time to spare, so there was no reason to compensate anyone really.

Spoit

_RiO_ wrote:

energythief wrote:

I was directed to this thread by Customer Service for information about compensation for players like me who were negatively affected by the zero point bug.

Wait.. what?
I don't think this thread ever discussed compensation outside of what I initially stated; if the event would not be fixed in time for the affected people to correct their scores, D3P/Demiurge should offer compensation to them. But the event was fixed with plenty of time to spare, so there was no reason to compensate anyone really.

And again, they've only offered compensation like 3 times. total. With way worse screw ups than that

Unknown

Ok, it's been a few events, and I have my feedback.

While the different time slots are a good idea, in their current state, they're better served in pve.

There just isn't enough points going around for the off slots, and the on slots are murder. A way to keep it and make it work is to open up mmr so players can be queued in all times. Other than that, placement is still determined by whether or not you pick a light slot, and points suffer season-wise.

It's a great idea, but definitely needs tweaking.

energythief

_RiO_ wrote:

energythief wrote:

I was directed to this thread by Customer Service for information about compensation for players like me who were negatively affected by the zero point bug.

Wait.. what?
I don't think this thread ever discussed compensation outside of what I initially stated; if the event would not be fixed in time for the affected people to correct their scores, D3P/Demiurge should offer compensation to them. But the event was fixed with plenty of time to spare, so there was no reason to compensate anyone really.

I'm only going by the reply I received from CS which states:

"Thank you for contacting D3P Customer Support.

Please refer to the link below for information concerning the Smash Hit issue, including any information about possible compensation.

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=19392"

Not sure why they would say that if there is no information to find here...?

_RiO_

energythief wrote:

Not sure why they would say that if there is no information to find here...?

Because it gets you off their back and allows them to sign off on one more caller issue 'succesfully handled'...