walkyourpath wrote: Kelbris wrote: walkyourpath wrote: I noticed the same steady drop-off in my sub-event placement as the event wore on. Hit the same Heroic/1xStandard marks that you did, and took it as a good sign. Also, this makes sense from a fairness perspective - those placing highly in the main shouldn't be able to suck up all the sub awards too. The last two missions, I got top 600 in one, and like top 1800 in the other. Didn't even get a standard token in Amazon. (Or whatever the lower points one was.) If I finish The Final Showdown right now, I'll be tied with you for #8. I AM NOT OKAY WITH THAT SOMEONE RUBBERBAND ME A POINT PLS I think you'd bump me down to #9 based on you completing it more recently? I think that's how it worked in the subs? Half of me says "well played event, sir - I'd be fine with dropping a spot for you!" The other half says "I hope Juggs cascades a mountain of red on you and yours!" Let's go with the former.
Kelbris wrote: walkyourpath wrote: I noticed the same steady drop-off in my sub-event placement as the event wore on. Hit the same Heroic/1xStandard marks that you did, and took it as a good sign. Also, this makes sense from a fairness perspective - those placing highly in the main shouldn't be able to suck up all the sub awards too. The last two missions, I got top 600 in one, and like top 1800 in the other. Didn't even get a standard token in Amazon. (Or whatever the lower points one was.) If I finish The Final Showdown right now, I'll be tied with you for #8. I AM NOT OKAY WITH THAT SOMEONE RUBBERBAND ME A POINT PLS
walkyourpath wrote: I noticed the same steady drop-off in my sub-event placement as the event wore on. Hit the same Heroic/1xStandard marks that you did, and took it as a good sign. Also, this makes sense from a fairness perspective - those placing highly in the main shouldn't be able to suck up all the sub awards too.
Techno Girl wrote: I have no idea whats going to happen, but I'm glad I don't have the face the trauma of overleveled Ragnarok for a while.
walkyourpath wrote: The other half says "I hope Juggs cascades a mountain of red on you and yours!"
eidehua wrote: Holy tiny tiny kitties, I beat the Final showdown with 61 wolvie, 15 punisher, and 18 black widow. Was a second too late to screen cap the victory, quite mad about that. Quite an intense match. I used +3 all and +3 blue/pure and +20% DMG dark avenger boosts. First I focused rag, denying all red and green (he did not pull off any of his skills), saving up red while using green when I could. I was able to kill him without using widow's stun. Unfortunately at this point Venom got 12 black, so I had to stun him. Decided to focus him next, as he had a special ready after stun was over. Wasn't able to kill Venom before stun wore off, but managed to just get enough ap for aggressive recon, so I was able to steal 4 of all ap besides purple. This was enough time to kill him right on the turn he got enough for devour again. Finally only juggs left. I had 25 red ap, but couldn't kill him with two Wolverine red abilities. So I just farmed for some green, and created more strike tiles, then ended him. Crazy battle. By the end, only wolvie was damaged (and only slightly). So yea black widow was very important. Punisher, not at all. His 20% take down DMG could not match the DMG I was doing with all my strike tiles lol. Ended with 49857 points. Currently at rank 209. Hope I stay in top 300
Nemek wrote: Worldrevolver wrote: Do people like this rubber banding system? Or are they just wrapped up in how to game it and aren't thinking how ridiculous it is? Maybe sports should do this. Let's play basketball and if I get up by 10, the baskets I make will count for you until we are tied. Then if there are 2 minutes left in the qtr my baskets count twice as much but you aren't allowed to play. Then the scoreboard turns off. I'm on the fence about it, overall. You may not have been around for the first PvE event, but there wasn't any rubberbanding in it - the formula was pretty simple - the person who grinded the most won the top spot. We often 'blame' Polkio for it (where IS Polkio?!), since he and his wife were playing for what must have been 6 hours a day (which, at the time, seemed pretty unbelievable...but sadly, not as much anymore), and absolutely demolished the field. But, we really don't know if his run-up was even close to the reason why rubber banding was implemented. So, why did it change? And is it for the better? Here are my thoughts... Why rubber banding is better: You don't need to play constantly to win. I think there was probably a concern about people playing TOO much. Burn-out on a game isn't an unreasonable notion, and if you're "forcing" players to play ridiculous amounts of time for (relatively) small rewards, you're just forcing them to quit. Since the top players are likely the ones that spent the most money and most likely to really grind, they'll likely be the first people burnt out. More strategy, less brute force. MPQ is, after all, a strategy game. The developers are geeks that like the idea of smart plays being key to victory and figuring things out as events play out should be a goal for any player. It's more accessible to the average or low-level player (99% of the playerbase). Generally, a player likely only has a couple of hours a day to really devote to MPQ (and that's a hardcore player!), due to work/school/family/sleep. Having missions refresh every 8/10/12 hours (or whatever it is), means somebody could play an hour before work and then an hour before bed, and still be pretty close with the rest of the pack. Why rubber banding is worse: Rubber banding is SUPER time-of-day dependent. To play optimally, there are a couple of very important times you need to be playing, much like the regular PvP tournaments. If you don't realize what those times of day are or have other life obligations, then you could be screwed. This is probably my biggest gripe. It's not intuitive to people that don't spend a lot of time reading the forums (either for patch notes or for other player input.) This leads to quite the vocal reaction we see on these forums when these events end. Related to the above point, if you don't know the system well, you can be falsely led to believe you're doing better than you are. At any point during a rubber banded event, you could be in 1st place for the entire thing. But...are you really truly the statistically most likely person to finish 1st based on that? No...probably not. But, some people believe it and then feel cheated later on. Overall, I think rubber banding is a better system, as controversial as it is on this forum. But, I can see the allure in dumbing down the system just for the sake of reducing the amount of complaints. Because, after all, if enough people complain and leave the game...then there isn't a a game anymore, anyway...no matter how good the system really is.
Worldrevolver wrote: Do people like this rubber banding system? Or are they just wrapped up in how to game it and aren't thinking how ridiculous it is? Maybe sports should do this. Let's play basketball and if I get up by 10, the baskets I make will count for you until we are tied. Then if there are 2 minutes left in the qtr my baskets count twice as much but you aren't allowed to play. Then the scoreboard turns off.
The Ladder wrote: Not only did it ensure that I stayed top 300 (finished #37), but I crept over 50000 as well. Thanks Nemek