How the Hulk scoring system works ?

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Paraphrasing: At the end of the last mission Fury tells Hulk they'll get Banner to a Shield Lab but not until they let Hulk loose on the Dark Avengers.

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The rubber banding is annoying.

Once it worked in my favor and while it was going on I thought what the heck is happening. In that event I finished 2nd and it actually wasn't fun. It felt like cheating.

I have no idea why it would say you do this for 200 points but then it would give me around 500.

Same goes for this recent event but in the opposite way.

I got on as soon as it started and completed every sub event first try and repeats until points were exhausted and I am in 711th. Why? I have 1084 points and the leaders have 3900. Why?

The way it worked when I flew up the leaderboards one morning earlier this week. I jumped on around 9am est and the values for the events were crazy. The event ended that day. The next day and the day after I logged in at the same time and played and the values were never crazy. But that one crazy hour meant I easily finished in 2nd place.

I mean I don't know when to play. As soon as they go like I just did? Wait 37 minutes and then start? Do 2 events then wait 14 minutes and play 1 event then wait 3 minutes and then close the app and restart it?

Why can't it just be play and get a score and if you finish and someone else finishes too you have the same score or close to the same score. If it's based on style I am not seeing it because I twice beat the CPU without them getting a turn and the points were no higher for achieving that.

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All these missions has me on edge with all the huge points being given out. I don't really have any idea where I should expect to end up in the final standings, I would really like to make top 1500 and top 300 would be awesome. I'm currently sitting at about 900 but I've jumped around so much in the standings that I'm not taking anything for granted.

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Bolivia has 3 events.

The max you can get looks to be 3900.

Any devs care to tell me how I only got 1084 by finishing them all first time and never losing once during the repeats?

It's getting more annoying every second I look and see I am dropping in the rankings because I finished too early? Too good? At the wrong minute?

How do I get way less than half the points of the leaders doing the same missions? And obviously there are no rules to this because people playing now are passing me a mere hour after I completed them all.

This is stupid. Because it's costing me in the overall mission thing. I was as high as 32nd today in the overall event. I have played this game every day and spent money and time on it and this is what it gets me?

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Worldrevolver wrote:

Bolivia has 3 events.

Try scrolling...

And your points are based on how far you are from the top.

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Scrolling helps, thanks. There was an easy event off to the left.

Only problem is I am #812 and the event gave me 62 points. I guess it just is what it is and what it is, is how this game works in a screwy way sometimes.

Nemek

Worldrevolver wrote:

Bolivia has 3 events.

The max you can get looks to be 3900.

Any devs care to tell me how I only got 1084 by finishing them all first time and never losing once during the repeats?

It's getting more annoying every second I look and see I am dropping in the rankings because I finished too early? Too good? At the wrong minute?

How do I get way less than half the points of the leaders doing the same missions? And obviously there are no rules to this because people playing now are passing me a mere hour after I completed them all.

This is stupid. Because it's costing me in the overall mission thing. I was as high as 32nd today in the overall event. I have played this game every day and spent money and time on it and this is what it gets me?

It's not really costing you - you just need to understand how the system works a little better.

Every mission has different stacks of points (I think these missions have like 5), that stagger in points.

So, let's take a fictional mission...

First time you beat it: 100 points
Second: 60
Third: 40
Fourth: 20
Fifth: 10

This just assumes no rubberbanding (we're not there yet.)

With rubberbanding, a multiplier is applied to each of those. That multiplier will range in value between 1 and 10 (made up number, but I think it's actually pretty accurate.) The multiplier is determined by the difference in points/rank from the person in first place in the main bracket. Nobody but the devs know what that formula is, exactly (and nobody on the forum has taken the time to try to figure it out themselves...especially since the devs tweak it with every event.)

So, let's say you just started the event today, and you are 'infinitely' behind the pack leader...you'll have a rubberbanding multiplier of 10x.

These missions are now worth:
1st: 1000
2nd: 600
3rd: 400
4th: 200
5th: 100

Players closer to the main event leaderboard will have smaller multipliers. So somebody who is rank 1000 in the overall bracket, might have a multiplier of 5x, so their missions are:

1st: 500
2nd: 300
3rd: 200
4th: 100
5th: 50

However, after they do the mission for 500 points, they are actually now rank 600. So, the value for the second completion will actually be much smaller than 300.

So, you can see that the closer you are to being on top of the main bracket, the fewer points you get.

Really, the only way to win the sub-events is to be as far as possible from the leader when the event opens. So, people who haven't played for a few days, will most likely be the ones winning.

There are obviously downsides to being one of those people, though - skipping sub-events means missing a whole **** ton of rewards. It's also possible to be 'too' behind the leader. Since the rubberbanding multiplier has a maximum value, there is still technically a limited number of points for a sub-event.

The 'game' that everybody is playing is this - how can I play the fewest number of matches, while winning as many rewards as I possibly can, but still be in position to get top 300 (or 1500...or whatever) when the last sub-event starts?

Hope that helps.

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In order to get the the top rewards for a sub bracket you basically have to tank the event before. But given the sub brackets don't really have any interesting reward it rarely make sense to do that on purpose. Besides, even if you tanked your score it's hardly guaranteed you'd come in top 4. What you should do is on a round where you're nowhere close to the top, just settle for scoring to get the heroic tokens (top 800 or top 600 depending on what you're going for) and this also causes you to be more behind the leader than you normally would be, and then try to go for a high place finish the next round. You should try to do one event in a sub bracket as soon as it's up, because most likely people in the earliest bracket have the highest score overall, which means your competition is less. Check the top 10 score and look at the points you're getting from the mission to get an idea whether there's even a chance you could come in in a high place. If not, either just settle for a top 600-800 finish, or just work on your overall score because you probably don't want to be so behind that you somehow miss out on the progression rewards at the end.

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Yeah. Don't worry about the sub brackets, you probably gave up any chance for doing we'll this set with that top 2 finish

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Wow that sure does help. A lot. I mean it sincerely. That is some great stuff.

I guess where it gets me the most is I have been putting in as much time as I can to do well on the overall hulk leaderboard. And today when I was at 32nd I actually thought to myself hey, at least the devs are rewarding those who have stuck it out and worked hard and placed decently event to event will get rewarded nicely for putting in the time.

Then to see my overall plummet to the 900s killed all joy.

Scrambling right now just to stay relevant.

Again, thank you for that post.

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Until the event ends there's going to be wild fluctuation in the overall board. As long as you're not so behind that even at 10X multiplier you can't catch up, don't worry about placing high or low in the main bracket until the event is almost over.

One quick way to know if you've any chance of placing top in a sub-bracket is take overall leader's score minus yours, and see the top score for each sub-bracket. E.g. if overall leader is 40K, and you're 30K, and you see someone has 15K in your sub-bracket, there's literally no way you can possibly win that bracket because you get at most 10K points from rubberbanding. Of course, in the 'easy' bracket you might not even be able to get 10K points total, but it gives you an idea of what to shoot for. Usually I do the mission with the most points in a sub-bracket once (plus any needed to unlock it) in all sub-brackets, and then I look at where I place in that bracket to determine if you've a meaningful shot at placing top. For example in the bracket with the 2000 points Punisher mission, doing that once puts you in like 200th place, while in an easy bracket doing the top mission (usually 800 points) you might still be 700th place. This gives you a good idea of which bracket you've a shot at placing well.

Also, if you see anything with the 10X modifier (e.g. 200 points become 2000 points), you might as well do it because the modifier isn't going to ever get bigger than that, so that means you're obviously very far from the leader and you might as well get it out of the way so the mission can refresh sooner. The only exception would be if you're trying to place top in an 'easy' bracket, then you do want to avoid the 2000 points reward from the 'hard' bracket because the 2000 points from that bracket will greatly cut into your rubberband modifier.

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I thought the rubber and was solely based on the main placement

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Nemek wrote:

The multiplier is determined by the difference in points/rank from the person in first place in the *****main***** bracket.

Thanks for that explanation! So even if my multiplier is low I should still be doing those sub-bracket missions until they give no points?



And here i thought i was a badass because i was in top 300 in the main bracket...and then couldn't get top 400 to save my life in the sub brackets...

I'm sort of scared now for my main bracket standings due to how this multiplier works =/

Nemek

Roya PQ wrote:

Nemek wrote:

The multiplier is determined by the difference in points/rank from the person in first place in the *****main***** bracket.

Thanks for that explanation! So even if my multiplier is low I should still be doing those sub-bracket missions until they give no points?



And here i thought i was a badass because i was in top 300 in the main bracket...and then couldn't get top 400 to save my life in the sub brackets...

I'm sort of scared now for my main bracket standings due to how this multiplier works =/

There are only a couple times it's worth doing missions to completion with a low multiplier, in my opinion (others may disagree.) That's at the very end of the second to last sub-event and the end of the last sub-event.

The end of the second to last sub-event will largely determine which players will place high at the end of the event. (Obviously, the last sub-event is super important too.) In theory, if you are in first place going into the last event, you will be able to hold first if you play optimally in the last event. (It's in theory, because it's likely what the developers intend, though the rubberbanding formula wasn't always the best, which led to all of the leapfrogging we saw in earlier events.)

If you're 1501+ at the end of the second to last sub-event, you need to depend on people ahead of you playing sub-optimally in the last sub-event. But, since it's the last one, people are way more likely to play optimally. (At the end of The Hunt, a lot of people were 'pissed' because 'rubberbanding was nerfed' during the last sub-event...but it wasn't actually true - they were used to being able to rocket above players playing sub-optimally in a sub-event, even when they started far out of reach of the top of the bracket.)

So...if you were in the top 300 after the previous (ended a few hours ago) sub-event (exactly when it ended), it should be 'easy' to be in the top 300 of this second-to-last sub-event. You may or may not need to grind the missions down to low points to stay in the top 300, depending on what everybody else does.

Also...it's kind of common knowledge now, but just to be sure. In order to score points even remotely optimally in any of these sub-events, you need to make sure you have missions saved for the last hour of each sub-event. If you completed them all early (<10ish hours before the end or whatever the recharge time is), then you messed up.

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Can we please save the lrn2playnoob talk again for after it ends?

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Check it out, blue rogue in #1 hah.

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Spoit wrote:

I thought the rubber and was solely based on the main placement

What I mean is let's say you're 10K behind the overall leader, your modifiers are maxed (10X), so on easy bracket you see a mission with 800 points, and on hard bracket you see a mission with 2000 points.

If you do the mission with 2000 points, this obviously gets you closer to the overall leader than the 800 points mission. So your next mission will be worth considerably less. For example, maybe after doing 800 point mission we have 600/1500 points for the same mission, but after doing the 2000 points mission we've 400/1000 points for the respective brackets. You don't know the modifiers for sure but you know your missions will be worth less after doing the 2000 points mission than the 800 points mission.

Now, normally no bracket is preferable than another, but if looking at your bracket and you think you can place well in the easy bracket, then getting that 2000 points from the hard bracket will affect your ability to place well in the easy bracket.

In terms of overall bracket placement, I suspect if you do every mission as soon as they're available, you'll still be at the top of the bracket fine. I keep on see the same guys on the top of the overall bracket and I don't think that's just a freak coincidence. Doing missions strategically simply saves you a lot of grinding, especially given you really only have to finish in the top 1500 in this tournament so no need to worry about having that many perma-grinders.

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You can actually get a few 2k missions off if you're low enough.

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I'm still not sure I know the best way to maximize my points but whatever. Draining them now and then I'll save up, recharge and finish at the end. But I don't think I'll be able to place in the sub-events. I've been moving farther and farther in the sub-events each iteration. Last set I dropped from Gamma to Heroic. Probably drop to standard for this one.

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jozier wrote:

I'm still not sure I know the best way to maximize my points but whatever. Draining them now and then I'll save up, recharge and finish at the end. But I don't think I'll be able to place in the sub-events. I've been moving farther and farther in the sub-events each iteration. Last set I dropped from Gamma to Heroic. Probably drop to standard for this one.

Yeah, but at this point, those aren't the prize. Besides, there are no more gamma tokens in this round. I'm in the top 30 now, without touching Bolivia (ok, did one mission once) and not having depleted any stacks in Nevada, but don't see the point in doing any more missions for the few points.