Client Patch - R56 Discussion (Live 6/30)

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  • GrumpySmurf1002
    GrumpySmurf1002 Posts: 3,511 Chairperson of the Boards
    WolfmanX25 wrote:
    Yep, really. Are you on R56?
    I'm on Steam, but I don't believe the nerf could be Steam-exclusive.

    In the Heroic event, I was using Storm against some goons, was at 6 AP and wanted to cast Mistress of the Elements, only to notice it now costs 9. The damage is 48 per tile, which I don't now how it compares to the previous value, since I never really used it for the damage.

    In the PvE she was at 58 or 59 per tile, forget the exact number this second. Definitely not 48.
  • Maybe my post was ambiguous. 48 was at level 50. At level 90, it's 83 per tile.
  • simonsez
    simonsez Posts: 4,663 Chairperson of the Boards
    pasa_ wrote:
    I bet metrics showed some people still use a * character and it does not fit the One True Way of MPQ play prescribed by devs, hence that character must be ruined immediately. The other attributes: going unannounced and deployed in middle of tournament based on her are part of keeping the tradition.
    I can go even more cynical than that. Red5 makes it too easy to get out of goon levels undamaged. How the heck are they supposed to sell health packs that way?
  • Nah, they probably saw the poor participation rate and low sales on the Mororo event and came to conclusion that this would make her more appealing.
  • mytisbrewin
    mytisbrewin Posts: 439 Mover and Shaker
    It was a bit of a shock having 8 red AP and not seeing the red flashing, I thought I was having a senior moment.
  • simonsez wrote:
    I can go even more cynical than that. Red5 makes it too easy to get out of goon levels undamaged. How the heck are they supposed to sell health packs that way?

    Also jumped to mind that they may plan Hulk rerun as next PVE where we had many deserts and mStorm helped a lot even when scaling went through the roof (capped 230 at the time).
  • john1620b
    john1620b Posts: 367
    edited June 2014
    Her damage is 34 per tile in R55 (level 50, 5 red covers).

    Also, seriously D3? I never thought much about the "ninja update" discussion, but a major character change like this, in the middle of a Heroic where she's 1 of 8 useable characters, is kind of ridiculous.
  • WolfmanX25 wrote:
    Ninja update: 1* Storm's red no longer gets the reduced cost from level increases and is now more similar to her 3* version, costing 9AP at level 5.
    Wow. Why was it so important to stealth nerf a 1-star character?

    Also, why do they continually make undocumented character nerfs and gameplay changes?
    Is it to totally avoid scrutiny, discussion, criticism and accountability?

    Seriously, who are the morons that make and approve these decisions?
    I honestly don't think I've seen so much PR incompetence from a game developer before, not to mention the sheer bastardry of these clowns.
  • The inability to even post what's in a given patch accurately just makes you guys look painfully incompetent. I think plenty of people will presume you just didn't want to communicate ANOTHER nerf but i'm still betting on incompetence over malice.

    As far as the nerf goes... literally no idea why you bothered. 3* Storm is underwhelming so bringing 1* storm into line with her seems like a strange choice.
  • Great. Another update that will probably just cause me to not close the client until after the heroic is done so I can continue to use her there with her MoE still at 5. Well, everyone else who updated, I hope you enjoy the "here's 3 tokens for updating early and getting screwed" rewards you'll get in a week and a half. I'll be happy with my low AP storm icon_e_wink.gif
  • Oh, I get it now. They want to shut down this game so they can release a different game and stop the maintenance costs of this one. The best way to do that is to make everyone quit willingly.
  • The levels of stupidity Demiurge has reached recently is both breathtaking and mind-boggling.

    Their decision making is so counter-intuitive and perverse that it defies belief.
  • bonfire01 wrote:
    The inability to even post what's in a given patch accurately just makes you guys look painfully incompetent. I think plenty of people will presume you just didn't want to communicate ANOTHER nerf but i'm still betting on incompetence over malice.

    As far as the nerf goes... literally no idea why you bothered. 3* Storm is underwhelming so bringing 1* storm into line with her seems like a strange choice.

    1* storm "trivialized" PvE by allowing people to play and place without buying healthpacks. Although obviously, the idea is less about health packs and more about denying people covers with the idea that if they can't earn them, they might be persuaded into buying them or gambling on those shardy cover packs with ~0% chance of getting anything remotely useful.
  • fidsah wrote:
    Oh, I get it now. They want to shut down this game so they can release a different game and stop the maintenance costs of this one. The best way to do that is to make everyone quit willingly.

    It reminds me of when I do laundry. I do it so poorly (sub-conciously) my wife just does the job instead.

    Problem solved.
  • Maybe now Modern Storm will now be usable in events that don't feature all environments in city.
  • Der_Lex
    Der_Lex Posts: 1,035 Chairperson of the Boards
    Toxicadam wrote:

    It reminds me of when I do laundry. I do it so poorly (sub-conciously) my wife just does the job instead.

    Problem solved.

    As a divorced dad, I can tell you there's one flaw in your plan... icon_mrgreen.gif
  • If i update now will I get compensation tokens? This is important
  • gamar wrote:
    If i update now will I get compensation tokens? This is important


    Would you even believe them even if they said yes as obviously they no idea whats going into the patch as the patch notes are wrong.
  • Sumilea wrote:
    Would you even believe them even if they said yes as obviously they no idea whats going into the patch as the patch notes are wrong.

    Oh, they full well know that they coded a change to the cost of Mistress. They just didn't want to tell us about it, because we're clearly too stupid to understand why it's important for us to eat a nerf.
  • Unknown
    edited June 2014
    This seems to be a rather worrisome trend.

    Instead of upgrading characters with higher rarities, a trend is forming where a 3*** lazy version is being developed and then the devs are going back and nerfing the original versions to encourage using the 3*** version over the original version.

    This happened with Daken, and now with Storm.

    If I were a betting man, I would strongly wager that the next lazy is going to be Hawkeye, whose 2** version will suffer the same fate as Daken and Storm. (Thor is the same boat, but had his 3*** version was so overwhelmingly powerful that a 2** additional nerf was not needed, imo.)

    I wonder if the gameplan here is to create such a giant power gap between 1* and 2**s versus 3***s, between the character nerfs and level gap increases, that players will ultimately have no choice but to be forced to "upgrade" to 3*** characters to even have a chance at placing in any event?