**** Echo (Maya Lopez) ****

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  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,566 Chairperson of the Boards
    entrailbucket said:
    Vhailorx said:
    Tony_Foot said:
    Vhailorx said:


    (Also, I continue to think that demi's determination to continue stuffing the 4* tier over-full is bad for the game.)
    Yep imagine having to look at that wall of required iso. I don't even read them, I couldn't care less if they removed 2/3rds of them. Nothing but champ rewards at this point. In fact Wiccan was my Deadpool Spicy vault this week and I was shocked to see it was level 332. Somehow I've gathered 60 odd champ levels and I've never used him. Don't even know what he does. along with every other 4 star since about 3 years ago.

    I look one up if I see someone say 'try Wiccan with the new five star because xyz'

    Give the new players a chance, reduce iso to champ a 4* by half.

    yup, for at least 3-4 years every new 4* had been either so OP as to be absolutely essential (stunner Bros, Polaris) or utterly superfluous except indicate as they make navigating the roster page incrementally harder. There is no middle ground with 4*s anymore; the tier is just too full.
    I think the alternatives are all worse, from a player's perspective.

    Barring a total rework of their monetization scheme, which is presumably off the table after 8 years, they *cannot ever* stop releasing new characters. 

    Right now we get 4/5/4/5...if we want less 4*, they could go to 4/5/5/4/5/5, or they could just completely stop making 4* at all and go 5/5/5 every 2 weeks.

    Another possibility is 6*, would we like it if the release order went 5/5/6?
    4/5/Support may not be that bad
  • Sekilicious
    Sekilicious Posts: 1,766 Chairperson of the Boards
    First round in the introductory with Echo @ 5/5/3 against an under levelled Daredevil was fun. It was pretty easy making match-4s in Black. Kingpin was pretty useless, though perhaps he was thematic. 
  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,566 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited December 2021
    This day 1 tie in to Hawkeye makes me a bit sad we got no Flaptain and Bucky content at all. Too bad that Omega Red appearance was just a rumor…
  • BlackBoltRocks
    BlackBoltRocks Posts: 1,253 Chairperson of the Boards
    Sekilicious said:
    First round in the introductory with Echo @ 5/5/3 against an under levelled Daredevil was fun. It was pretty easy making match-4s in Black. Kingpin was pretty useless, though perhaps he was thematic. 
    I experienced the opposite. Echo was useless; meanwhile I got 10 Yellow and 8 Black and Kingpin smacked Daredevil.
  • Anon
    Anon Posts: 1,455 Chairperson of the Boards
    Yeah Kingpin did all the heavy lifting for me too.
  • HoundofShadow
    HoundofShadow Posts: 8,004 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited December 2021
    You can change her learned power even with a loaner and I think her learned power is assigned randomly among all the players. That might explain the different experience. Mine was Iron Fist's.
  • crakker
    crakker Posts: 40 Just Dropped In
    BlackBoltRocks said
    I experienced the opposite. Echo was useless; meanwhile I got 10 Yellow and 8 Black and Kingpin smacked Daredevil.
    For me Echo helped Kingpin get black so not entirely useless
  • Godzillafan67
    Godzillafan67 Posts: 710 Critical Contributor
    I like that her trap tile is enemy-associated such that it can't be overwritten by enemy special tiles, but it needs to be visible to the player to really make it useful.
  • Godzillafan67
    Godzillafan67 Posts: 710 Critical Contributor
    dianetics said:
    If you run her with Heimdall you can see where the trap tiles are located. Just use his blue but don’t cast it unless you need to heal him.
    I've only got one Heimdall cover, and it's red. I'd just like to make Echo a bit more self-sufficient, because I enjoy chasing down or setting up 3* Daredevil and X-23's trap tiles and would like to do the same here. Perhaps a passive where she can see all enemy trap tiles.
  • HoundofShadow
    HoundofShadow Posts: 8,004 Chairperson of the Boards
    Which power of Heimdall can he see enemy trap tiles? I don't see it being stated in his ability.

    JJ can see trap tiles, so she will be good.

    I think we'll have a better gauge of her in her shield training.
  • MoosePrime
    MoosePrime Posts: 969 Critical Contributor
    HoundofShadow said:
    Which power of Heimdall can he see enemy trap tiles? I don't see it being stated in his ability.

    JJ can see trap tiles, so she will be good.

    I think we'll have a better gauge of her in her shield training.
    Probably when you select tiles to fortify, he can't fortify the enemy trap tiles.
    So you would select blue to cast, check which tiles you can't fortify, then cancel the ability (to save the blue AP).
  • HoundofShadow
    HoundofShadow Posts: 8,004 Chairperson of the Boards
    That's interesting to know. So, they are the anti-trap tile specialist, in a way.
  • Seph1roth5
    Seph1roth5 Posts: 481 Mover and Shaker
    I'd love if they lowered the price on classic legends.  No way I'm paying 20 cp, even 10 is a bit much for old **** characters I don't REALLY want lol.  But there are a lot I don't have and they come up as required characters in cl 10 grr.
  • Sekilicious
    Sekilicious Posts: 1,766 Chairperson of the Boards
    Apparently Echo feeds Sighclops. 
  • HoundofShadow
    HoundofShadow Posts: 8,004 Chairperson of the Boards
    What's their relationship? Havok is sad.  :D
  • rainkingucd
    rainkingucd Posts: 1,532 Chairperson of the Boards
    HoundofShadow said:
    What's their relationship? Havok is sad.  :D
    Evidently Echo was(is?) A Phoenix host.  
  • HoundofShadow
    HoundofShadow Posts: 8,004 Chairperson of the Boards
    That explains why. Havok wonders when his turn is next. 
  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,566 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited December 2021
    If only his longtime love interest Polaris were a 4* in this game…oh…wait
  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 7,012 Chairperson of the Boards
    ThaRoadWarrior said:
    If only his longtime love interest Polaris were a 4* in this game…oh…wait
    They can't make Polaris a feeder because they're terrified that 20 angry, entitled vets would throw a tantrum about it.
  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,566 Chairperson of the Boards
    Well, I already put in my time grinding Havok shards, Sighclops as well, so they can do it or not I guess. Maybe we’ll get a 4* Major X or Corsair at some point to have a more thematically appropriate feeder. Havok was one of the biggest disappointments to me champ wise though for what it’s worth. I unironically prefer using Banner.

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