ThaRoadWarrior said: Bad said: [...] In pick 3 she should be quite popular in a hulkoye team. Apocalypse cannot make a great use of her as both need yellow. [...] Apocalypse only needs yellow the one time when I'm using him, but Okoye is constantly needing to fuel the yelllow furnace; am I doing it wrong, or are all y'all who say apocalypse competes for yellow doing it wrong?
Bad said: [...] In pick 3 she should be quite popular in a hulkoye team. Apocalypse cannot make a great use of her as both need yellow. [...]
HoundofShadow said: To add on, 1) if you down character A with her black power, the countdown will switch to the next character that moves to the front. So, the black power won't target the character that was downed.2) Her stun will stun invisible character because it stuns a random opponent.3) I have tested her red or black power and match damage while her repeater were on the board and enemy protect tiles were out. It did ignore enemy protect tiles. So, I'm not sure what went wrong in your match.
entrailbucket said: Yeah, that's a team construction issue. She needs to tank all of her colors and probably one more, + TU.
ThaRoadWarrior said: entrailbucket said: Yeah, that's a team construction issue. She needs to tank all of her colors and probably one more, + TU. I mean, it is what it is, right? I do have a 5* RTF on her, so in PVE at least she tanks more.
entrailbucket said: ThaRoadWarrior said: entrailbucket said: Yeah, that's a team construction issue. She needs to tank all of her colors and probably one more, + TU. I mean, it is what it is, right? I do have a 5* RTF on her, so in PVE at least she tanks more. The funny thing is that if she's used like you're using her, she's actually not overpowered at all. She's barely even good.If you squint, you can see the outline of a balanced character there. The idea is that if you want her to boost powers, she has to match useless TU AP. But in order to cast those powers, you have to have other characters match regular AP. It's a tradeoff that limits her effectiveness significantly.What makes her overpowered is pairing her with characters that either generate their own AP, or do damage passively, so there's no tradeoff at all. One might expect that the characters who generate their own AP or do damage passively would have bad powers, as a tradeoff for doing completely free stuff, but that's not how it works in practice, because nothing makes sense.
ThaRoadWarrior said: entrailbucket said: ThaRoadWarrior said: entrailbucket said: Yeah, that's a team construction issue. She needs to tank all of her colors and probably one more, + TU. I mean, it is what it is, right? I do have a 5* RTF on her, so in PVE at least she tanks more. The funny thing is that if she's used like you're using her, she's actually not overpowered at all. She's barely even good.If you squint, you can see the outline of a balanced character there. The idea is that if you want her to boost powers, she has to match useless TU AP. But in order to cast those powers, you have to have other characters match regular AP. It's a tradeoff that limits her effectiveness significantly.What makes her overpowered is pairing her with characters that either generate their own AP, or do damage passively, so there's no tradeoff at all. One might expect that the characters who generate their own AP or do damage passively would have bad powers, as a tradeoff for doing completely free stuff, but that's not how it works in practice, because nothing makes sense. I mean, I use her with Hulk or whoever like the rest of y'all, I just have to be a little more active about chasing yellow and team up. I don't use her that much in PVP ever since Wanda came out though. But I've foudn that Thor/Apocalypse was at least as fast on pick-2 nodes in PVE even though it's all active powers.
Tony_Foot said: Changed my mind after seeing a few videos, will definitely wait for Gamora.