*****Heimdall (The Gatekeeper) *****

Michael1957 said:

Xception81 said:

Michael1957 said:

Xception81 said:

atomzed said:

DAZ0273 said:

This first day of Introducing Heimdall puzzles me - it is almost like the least optimal choice in terms of set-up was chosen to show off his power set! Heimdall needs buddies to shine but we get a solo that is a wave node?!?!?

I thought the first day was meant to showcase his damage reduction and healing ability. Despite me playing slowly as I wanted to try the moves, I healed back all the damage. 

I was giving them the benefit of the doubt on the first day, but now we’ve had 3 days where he’s had no teammates to showcase his yellow. Hopefully days 4 and 5 are better planned. 

How’d that work out for you today ?

Ha, like everyone already mentioned earlier, I think they failed day 4 also. Luckily his PvP is giving me some idea of how his yellow works. But I’m still hoping the final day of Introducing has him fully covered with teammates. 

What I noticed in his PvAI, if his two teammates have their strongest colors as passive powers it’s useless and actually a liability as it removes them for one turn with no benefit . There’s a long list of teammates his yellow won’t support 

Not quite.  You just need to have some use for the ap, whoever it is.  So bringing professor X is actually quite good, because the blue will fuel Heimdall, even if it is useless for X.  Bottom line is that like all "strongest color"-based powers/characters, it pays to keep the strongest color in mind when building teams and choosing opponents.

At 1/1/1, the BRB/Shuri team isn't super effective in his release PVP. I wish we could have played around with wingpersons in his Introducing... event to better figure out his deal.

pheregas said:

I gathered a little red, then some blue, then fired blue and locked nothing but red tiles. [...]

I found myself balancing using Heimdall's blue to double up the ap gain from a match 3 (fortifying all 3 tiles, then matching it) vs leaving the fortifications in play for AP discounts. In the PVP, it's more useful to make the match and earn the AP since at 1/1/1 it takes 2:1 for fortification. 

ThaRoadWarrior said:

pheregas said:

I gathered a little red, then some blue, then fired blue and locked nothing but red tiles. [...]

I found myself balancing using Heimdall's blue to double up the ap gain from a match 3 (fortifying all 3 tiles, then matching it) vs leaving the fortifications in play for AP discounts. In the PVP, it's more useful to make the match and earn the AP since at 1/1/1 it takes 2:1 for fortification. 

Huh, this sounds like a great way to clear out blue fr the board.  Each cast is self-sustaining if you fortify all 3 tiles in a blue match.  It also turned the power in a 1:1 ap arbitrage engine.  That sounds pretty useful.

Vhailorx said:

ThaRoadWarrior said:

pheregas said:

I gathered a little red, then some blue, then fired blue and locked nothing but red tiles. [...]

I found myself balancing using Heimdall's blue to double up the ap gain from a match 3 (fortifying all 3 tiles, then matching it) vs leaving the fortifications in play for AP discounts. In the PVP, it's more useful to make the match and earn the AP since at 1/1/1 it takes 2:1 for fortification. 

Huh, this sounds like a great way to clear out blue fr the board.  Each cast is self-sustaining if you fortify all 3 tiles in a blue match.  It also turned the power in a 1:1 ap arbitrage engine.  That sounds pretty useful.

If you have Shuri in play, you can get even trickier (if you have the time). With 5 fortifications in place, her AP Tax/Discount comes into play, which reduces friendly powers by 3 while simultanously increasing enemy power cost by 3. Anytime you match a friendly fortification, she does some bonus damage, but she also removes an enemy special from within a fortification every time you fire off her red power actively. This is why I'm so intersested in testing out a "good" heimdall between BRB and Shuri - I think with heimdall's blue + Shuri's blue in play, you will basically have all your powers down to single-match-to-fire status way quicker than you might expect, but you can also use Heimdall's blue followed by Shuri's red to encapsulate a tricky enemy tile you want to remove from the board actively, then remove it. I think it'll be an offense only team most likely, but i think it will give you a lot of technical options for matches you may not be able to brute force otherwise. Or not; guess we'll have to see.

I think I'd like him 4/5/4.

Polares said:

I think this is probably the first 5 char in a while really worth getting, and it is of course because of his blue. Powers like this one are extremely rare and I am sure at some point it will be "exploited" in some very bonkers/op combination.

I agree but there is no need to level him any higher than 451.

MadScientist said:

Polares said:

I think this is probably the first 5 char in a while really worth getting, and it is of course because of his blue. Powers like this one are extremely rare and I am sure at some point it will be "exploited" in some very bonkers/op combination.

I agree but there is no need to level him any higher than 451.

I am not sure I agree with this.  Heimdall is a true healer, and the first 5* true healer in a while.  given the way health and match damage power creep have been going, heimdall is actually the first character in quite a while with a reasonable chance to tank for many modern 5*s (at least for those of us who don't have level 500+ okoyes).  So getting tons of champ levels on him seems like a perfectly viable strategy if you want someone to tank for characters like BRB or apoc.

In the his PVP, I like using him with Black Cat and Vulture using his yellow ability. This let Vulture doing his AP generating stuffs and Black Cat stunning her enemies even more frequently.