KGB said: The problem now though is that it's not just 5 levels of champ rewards that have changed. It's 15 levels of rewards at the 4* level. So for someone who has a max champ 370 they would be getting:5 LTs (at the 300, 320 etc levels) plus 60 cp (the other shard replacement of champ rewards) more than someone who just has a L295 or below 4*. That's a LOT of extra resources they got that I am not going to get just because they got there first.So while I am sympathetic to their loss, it will be no where remotely fair if they get that much extra resources. There should be a claw back of LT's and CP's if those players get awarded more shards. Or those of us who aren't at those levels need double rewards when we do reach them.Prior feeder updates already benefited veteran players who double dipped the 280/300 etc rewards with extra LT's so at some point that has to stop for fairness sake.KGB
froggerjohn said: 4. There's now incentive to not champ a character that doesn't yet feed another, just to not lose its potential 5* progress.
thedarkphoenix said: KGB said: The problem now though is that it's not just 5 levels of champ rewards that have changed. It's 15 levels of rewards at the 4* level. So for someone who has a max champ 370 they would be getting:5 LTs (at the 300, 320 etc levels) plus 60 cp (the other shard replacement of champ rewards) more than someone who just has a L295 or below 4*. That's a LOT of extra resources they got that I am not going to get just because they got there first.So while I am sympathetic to their loss, it will be no where remotely fair if they get that much extra resources. There should be a claw back of LT's and CP's if those players get awarded more shards. Or those of us who aren't at those levels need double rewards when we do reach them.Prior feeder updates already benefited veteran players who double dipped the 280/300 etc rewards with extra LT's so at some point that has to stop for fairness sake.KGB The entire meta of this game has been about getting there 1st.This is more about how much money do they think they are going to loose
tiomono said: This update was very odd. Not always consistent with how champion reward updates have been handled for more than a year. Not even consistent with itself. My 298 hulk buster gave me 1 rescue cover and 250 shards for rescue which seems consistent. Then I look at my level 300 totally awesome hulk that gave me 1 banner cover and only 100 shards.I'm just baffled how the devs came to this conclusion as a reward structure. Having 2 extra covers for a character gives me 150 shards less instead of the 400 more that the green checkmark would seem to imply.
GrimSkald said: KGB said: The problem now though is that it's not just 5 levels of champ rewards that have changed. It's 15 levels of rewards at the 4* level. So for someone who has a max champ 370 they would be getting:5 LTs (at the 300, 320 etc levels) plus 60 cp (the other shard replacement of champ rewards) more than someone who just has a L295 or below 4*. That's a LOT of extra resources they got that I am not going to get just because they got there first.So while I am sympathetic to their loss, it will be no where remotely fair if they get that much extra resources. There should be a claw back of LT's and CP's if those players get awarded more shards. Or those of us who aren't at those levels need double rewards when we do reach them.Prior feeder updates already benefited veteran players who double dipped the 280/300 etc rewards with extra LT's so at some point that has to stop for fairness sake.KGB You are vastly over-valuing LTs and CPs, and under-valuing 5* covers. Speaking for myself, I "lost out" on about 22 covers (I would have gained 32, I gained 10.) If someone from D3 said to me, "we'll give you those 22 covers, but only if you pay for them in LTs/CP," I would say "yes." In a heartbeat. It doesn't matter that all but 3 of those covers are for a character who I'll hardly ever use (1 additional Kitty and 2 additional Prof X covers,) I'd still go for it. 5* covers are worth, more or less, at least 8-10 draws.I'll point out that if they continue this retroactive system it will end up biting people very, very hard. That is to say, by the old system they would complete a 5*, by the new system they will not, and not have any good way to complete that 5* without a ton of resources. I feel very sure that everyone will be there someday, and it will hurt the 4* players more than 5* players. 4* players can't be certain of covering a 5* without feeders, a consistent 5* player will...
jb5357 said: I am sure this is felt by others and already said, but wanted to add my reaction. Since the update was announced, I strategically worked my roster to try and get past points where a mighty token would be issued and secondary shards, because in prior updates, replaced awards were issued. When none of these were issued, it felt like punishment for leveling, and I would have been better off not playing for 5 days, instead of using my resources in game, as I would be getting more/better stuff today vs the last 5 days.i am not as high is my 4 star champing, so that did not affect me, but i feel penalized for working to max out and level my 3 stars.
bluewolf said: Someone probably posted something similar already but here goes:I have almost all the 5's champed. One that's been lingering is Doom who ended up 5/5/1 with 7 saved covers. But I have Invisible Woman at 343 and I always thought eventually she might feed him, so I patiently waited for that day to (hopefully, eventually) come. I figured I could take trading in 3 covers and champ him, or get her to 360, when the time came.And then the chart got posted and there it was! Sue will feed Doom! And wait...shards! So I imagined taking those shards and finishing him without any waste at all.....it seemed like a massive gift and I could deal with trading in HP and CP for colorless covers....I've been wanting to use him in different events so I figured I'd (try to) wait and see how rewards went before getting too worked up over the HP and CP stuff.Well, we know how that worked out. While still trying to figure out the retro rewards after reading a confusing post, I got one actual Doom cover...and 300 shards. And IW is ONLY 343 so, 4 less random pulls for her over the past 3900 pulls or so, and I'd have gotten a full shard/cover that I could have converted and used some saved if I wanted, or I guess target her and 3 Doom....you get the point. Instead I now have 8 saved covers and 300 shards for Doom.I'm both worse off than I expected based on all 25 prior feeder updates, and have more work to do to get a Doom cover thanks to pulling a few too many IWs (for some reason RNG seems to love her on my account) and every time I think about it, it makes me mad and want to throw my phone across the room. OK, maybe not right now but it sure makes me want to make sure I don't renew VIP or buy a bundle or anything like that.