bken1234 said: My top 10 list for players in their first 6 months -- these are the PW who will help make up for deficits you will encounter in your collection either by limits of 10 cards, or just by limits of small collections and help you be more competitive as you make your way through the tiers and build your collection --- in no certain order:Nicol Bolas, God-Pharaoh (Note: for more advanced players I would replace with The Ravager)Sarkhan UnbrokenKarn, Scion of UrzaDomri. Chaos BringerRal, Izzet ViceroyOb Nixilis, ReignitedTeferi, Hero of DominariaKiora, Master of the DepthsAjani Vengeant (R/W)Angrath the Flame ChainedHonorable Mono Mentions:Gideon, Battle-Forged (Origins)Gideon BlackbladeJace, Cunning Castaway (aka Dirty Jace)Elspeth, Sun's ChampionNissa WorldwakerJaya BallardKoth of the Hammer
Mburn7 said:I have never seen anyone recommend Dirty Jace for anything, though. What makes him better than, say, Unraveler Jace? I find him to be much more straightforward from a building perspective and much more powerful.
bken1234 said: Tamiyo doesn’t belong on this list. She requires a more advanced skill set to play. Newer players struggle with her. I also agree with @ArielSira on H2, she’s tricky, bad draw or a kill happy Greg and you’re in trouble. Domri is a great add @Tremayne — his balanced loadouts and mana, plus two fetch abilities really make him stomp!
starfall said: Gabrosin said: My list:1. Nicol Bolas, the Ravager2. Sarkhan Unbroken3. Tamiyo, Field Researcher4. There are other planeswalkers? There's Ral
Gabrosin said: My list:1. Nicol Bolas, the Ravager2. Sarkhan Unbroken3. Tamiyo, Field Researcher4. There are other planeswalkers?
starfall said: Gabrosin said: starfall said: Gabrosin said: My list:1. Nicol Bolas, the Ravager2. Sarkhan Unbroken3. Tamiyo, Field Researcher4. There are other planeswalkers? There's Ral I do use Ral, and Bolas 1, and on occasion Kiora and Teferi and Nissa 4. Nissa 4 is surprisingly awesome for a mono green. She can play Killer Instinct decks like an absolute boss.On the subject of being surprised, tho, I was surprised to discover how weak Kiora was in Standard events without access to decent gem conversion. Still good, but nothing like top tier.
Gabrosin said: starfall said: Gabrosin said: My list:1. Nicol Bolas, the Ravager2. Sarkhan Unbroken3. Tamiyo, Field Researcher4. There are other planeswalkers? There's Ral I do use Ral, and Bolas 1, and on occasion Kiora and Teferi and Nissa 4.
Gabrosin said: starfall said: Gabrosin said: starfall said: Gabrosin said: My list:1. Nicol Bolas, the Ravager2. Sarkhan Unbroken3. Tamiyo, Field Researcher4. There are other planeswalkers? There's Ral I do use Ral, and Bolas 1, and on occasion Kiora and Teferi and Nissa 4. Nissa 4 is surprisingly awesome for a mono green. She can play Killer Instinct decks like an absolute boss.On the subject of being surprised, tho, I was surprised to discover how weak Kiora was in Standard events without access to decent gem conversion. Still good, but nothing like top tier. She fills a niche, in that she has easy access to mana on a bad board through her A1, and can fetch a creature with her A2, which can often help fulfill objectives. She's still pretty great at getting a Ghalta stack out there. And she has access to all the good blue things.But both Sarkhan and Teferi are basically better at what she does than she is. Sarkhan can go get you three creatures and fill up their mana, and Teferi can get you a fresh hand and two turns of big mana ramping. Plus each gives you access to another color and loses very little in mana gains compared to Kiora. It's only on events where you're locking those two to other nodes that Kiora starts to enter consideration.
Azerack said: Gabrosin said: starfall said: Gabrosin said: starfall said: Gabrosin said: My list:1. Nicol Bolas, the Ravager2. Sarkhan Unbroken3. Tamiyo, Field Researcher4. There are other planeswalkers? There's Ral I do use Ral, and Bolas 1, and on occasion Kiora and Teferi and Nissa 4. Nissa 4 is surprisingly awesome for a mono green. She can play Killer Instinct decks like an absolute boss.On the subject of being surprised, tho, I was surprised to discover how weak Kiora was in Standard events without access to decent gem conversion. Still good, but nothing like top tier. She fills a niche, in that she has easy access to mana on a bad board through her A1, and can fetch a creature with her A2, which can often help fulfill objectives. She's still pretty great at getting a Ghalta stack out there. And she has access to all the good blue things.But both Sarkhan and Teferi are basically better at what she does than she is. Sarkhan can go get you three creatures and fill up their mana, and Teferi can get you a fresh hand and two turns of big mana ramping. Plus each gives you access to another color and loses very little in mana gains compared to Kiora. It's only on events where you're locking those two to other nodes that Kiora starts to enter consideration. You mean Tamiyo, not Teferi, I presume. Kiora wss queen for a long time, though. Her and Koth's mana gains were tough, "back in the day". I can still win with her, though. The card access DOES make a big difference, of course...