How long until they nerf Ironman Model 40. I mean think about it, they nerfed OML because he was overused, I'm willing to bet that IM40 is one of the most used 3* in the game currently. I'm not saying he needs to be nerfed, I think he is just fine, but due to there recent justification on OML for being overused, will other characters see the same treatment?
Thoughts? I'm a bit bored waiting for my Thanos nodes to reset.......
nyck1118 said: I agree. when we had that "Bug" that made his Yellow cost 8 AP he felt fine. if anything maybe shave 1 AP off red and Blue. at the most.
zodiac339 said: nyck1118 said: I agree. when we had that "Bug" that made his Yellow cost 8 AP he felt fine. if anything maybe shave 1 AP off red and Blue. at the most. Red doesn't need its cost reduced. The damage it deals for a 3 star is high enough to justify its cost. Blue, on the other hand, costs more that Whales, Whales, Whales and Embiggened Bash. More than Call the Storm as well. The AP drain could be removed from blue without it being overpowered.
BatteryHorse said: zodiac339 said: nyck1118 said: I agree. when we had that "Bug" that made his Yellow cost 8 AP he felt fine. if anything maybe shave 1 AP off red and Blue. at the most. Red doesn't need its cost reduced. The damage it deals for a 3 star is high enough to justify its cost. Blue, on the other hand, costs more that Whales, Whales, Whales and Embiggened Bash. More than Call the Storm as well. The AP drain could be removed from blue without it being overpowered. That's true, but that's not at all uncommon in the 3* tier. You'll often see two solid powers and one that's weak, situational or expensive. Just like how most powers in the 3* tier that involve special tiles put them in random places, and then you get to 4 and 5* and you more often get to choose your location, or they have two functions, etc.I agree that IM40's blue power is his weakest, and it doesn't hold up to the other powerful 3* AoEs, but it's still better than any power a lot of other weak 3's have, and giving IM40 3 well-balanced powers would just exacerbate the problem. I'm fine with him having a strong red, an AP generating yellow and a too-expensive blue. That sounds like a solid 3* to me.
StreetPreacher said: Don't need to nerf Iron Man, just need to give the players other options for AP batteries. Reduce Mystique's purple to 6. Give AP generation to a bottom tier hero like Beast. His blue animation is perfect for an AP battery. If he was the first character to give yellow, he'd be playable.
Straycat said: They should add more batteries for sure, especially in the 3* tier. Hawkguy is pretty good purple/blue battery, could go well with 3* Starlord's purple ap steal. But its not mutually exclusive, IM40 maybe should be rebalanced. 8 cost recharge, if nothing else When I need a quick pvp win I might use IM40 with +2 r/y and +2 all ap for a one match recharge. Moving to 8 at least requires 2 matches. I definitely don't want them to nerf him that bad, but he could lose a lot and still be a viable battery.
I'm all for building up other batteries or characters that are underused. I'd love for D3 to put out a usage report to see which characters are used the most and which are never used. A nice chart would be cool.
IIRC they never gave usage stats relative to other characters for OML... I saw WAY more im40s than I did OML, so while I think adding the notion in about his usage stats was good supporting evidence to change OML, it wasn't the driver.
I don't think its too tin foil-y to suspect it was OML's correlation to health pack usage that got him the nerf, not usage statistics... and certainly not for being an overpowered 5*.
If these kind of reasons were stated plainly "for game economics reasons" or some other reference to needing to keep the game afloat and free for most people it would provide clarity and justification... seemingly inexplicable changes or logically inconsistent changes are SO MUCH WORSE than just saying it was a change so that the game stays in a state that it can still be provided as free to us. The truth would cause people to grumble, but it would be so much easier on them in the long run.
Punisher5784 said: Why is the IM40 nerf always a topic?! It makes no sense. IM40 is easy to defeat in PvP and is a target. While in PvE, we all know scaling is unfair and time consuming, so why nerf the one character that helps alleviate some of the scaling problems? Let me gather 2 more yellow AP while 1* Juggs headbutts me and Ares grabs the yellow I need.. no.. it's stupid.. keep it at 6AP.Enough with the topics of player depression of "oh my poor OML was nerfed so now ____ will be nerfed". With alot of solid new characters (e.g. Carol, Medusa, Blade) and great rebalanced (e.g. Wasp, SL, IW), you have many other choices. Heck I replaced IM40 for SL for alot of teams. Therefore if players are worried about this "10%" then try using other teams.Then if your character does get nerfed at least you've already had a backup team. ~ Thoughts from a 2+ year player whose experienced a majority of the previous nerfs