TxMoose wrote: personally I think after the im40 redo, 4thor will be climbing the rankings if more people take her out for a spin with stark. she's still very strong, but slow on her own. but no longer slow if you add im40 in the mix. she still needs a lot of ap to get going, but there's a very effective solution to that now.
Vhailorx wrote: my only concern is the total color overlap. Is a red-yelow-blue pair viable in PvP? Isn't there a significant risk of purple/black/green board? And that pair doesn't have a ton of boardshake.
rkd80 wrote: at the end of the day, you will want to run double 4s and as soon as you can do that im40 will probably be relegated to SSIM or PVE.
PeterGibbons316 wrote: Personally I think IM40's new found love is directly related to the overrating of 4Thor. A lot of people maxed 4Thor back in the day and with IM40 getting buffed they suddenly have a use for their 4Thors again. If you look at the top 5, who does IM40 really help support? JG? Sorta. IMHB? Can't even use them together. Iceman? Actually yeah, I think this would work. ProfX? Not even close. Rulk? Sorta.
Ebolamonkey84 wrote: 14. Spider-Man (Bag-Man), even Average: 1.4518, 965 votes HP: 4998 Bag-Man is the only character that is so bad that he has been removed from tokens. The devs combined their seeming hatred of Spider-Man and the Fantatic Four to create the pinnacle of suckiness. Bag-Man should only be on your roster as a status symbol, or if you want to insult someone in PVP. Purple: It can swap all non TU tiles at 4 covers or better. 13/18 AP is just too damn high. Blue: Costs too much as you get more covers. Destruction of special tiles is almost always better than locking them. Yellow: Somewhat pitiful compared to OBW's blue.Pros Can't win him in tokens Is the only 2* that rewards a Legendary token for Champion rewards Occasionally, the AI will have Snarky Remark and increase the CD timer on its own tiles. Cons No offensive capabilities 2 of 3 powers cost more as you add covers. No powers should cost this much, especially with no direct damage. Recommended build: 5/3/5 Good partners: No one
TxMoose wrote: Vhailorx wrote: my only concern is the total color overlap. Is a red-yelow-blue pair viable in PvP? Isn't there a significant risk of purple/black/green board? And that pair doesn't have a ton of boardshake. no, not a lot of boardshake, but against jean-types, that isn't terrible. I'm not really advocating running them exclusively. I chose cyke in the blade event to manage the red strikes out there. but I saw at least 1 guy running im40/4thor - not sure how he did. if thor is boosted, I'd definitely consider running im40/4thor depending on the featured character. I'm sure the AI plays them pretty clumsily.
xidragonxi wrote: TxMoose wrote: Vhailorx wrote: my only concern is the total color overlap. Is a red-yelow-blue pair viable in PvP? Isn't there a significant risk of purple/black/green board? And that pair doesn't have a ton of boardshake. no, not a lot of boardshake, but against jean-types, that isn't terrible. I'm not really advocating running them exclusively. I chose cyke in the blade event to manage the red strikes out there. but I saw at least 1 guy running im40/4thor - not sure how he did. if thor is boosted, I'd definitely consider running im40/4thor depending on the featured character. I'm sure the AI plays them pretty clumsily. The AI actually plays it pretty well. It prioritizes IM40 Yellow over 4Thor Yellow because of the cheaper cost. Then, once it fires Recharge, since IM40 is stunned, it let's 4Thor go to work. I have no idea how it prioritizes stun over damage, but either way it's effective. I've been using this duo with Jean Grey or OML and it's great for climbing. I've even gotten defensive wins in Sim with this team. Not so much in regular PVP because of the boosted characters running around. Another note on 4Thor (btw I'm a huge fan, and I didn't even have her pre-nerf), she's good for situational re-speccing. There was a heroic PVE recently where Jean Grey was locked out, and i was able to re-spec 4Thor to 3/5/5 and use her Yellow as a way to clear out goon countdown tiles. Very handy!
jimstarooney wrote: Only problem is ai will cast red then blue
TxMoose wrote: jimstarooney wrote: Only problem is ai will cast red then blue and that brings me back to my previous point on jean's ranking. there are so many very strong 4s that need to be played by a human to get the most out of them - 4thor, cyke, ice, rulk, even xpool and xfw to a lesser extent - all have qualifiers and coherent strategy needed to be played correctly. that is the beauty of hb and jean. yes there's still an optimal way to play it = red (if you have enough when you start the sequence)/black/green/purple/red, but mostly it is gather ap, send damage. I think im40 with either (or both) 4thor and ice are the craziest strong combo I can create, but none will be played right by the AI. whereas hb/jean/hood can really only be messed up if hood uses the black or might lose some strike damage if abilities are played out of order. thinking about it, AI might handle cyke ok with jeanbuster too. will just use cyke's red, which is not horrible (and great if you have the TUs) and will most likely use hb blue, which is meh, but not losing a ton in the AI hands anyway. I might switch hood to cyke in shield sim later in the season.
dbfclark wrote: Hey there, I'm a long-time lurker, first time poster, and a big fan of the character rankings. I can't send a message to Ebola yet because I don't have the reputation (apparently?), but I've compiled what I think are decent writeups for all of the 2* characters, and I'd tentatively be willing to do something for the 3*s (probably depending heavily on Dauthi's guide from last summer, since little has changed in 3* territory since then), because I'm quite interested in seeing writeups of the 4* characters in some detail. Is there some way for me to communicate what I've got other than unsolicited PM? Edit: I'm on day 605 with two maxed 4*s (Jeanbuster), in case you need to know I know how to play.
Xidex wrote: Thora +IM40 + JG is the best team for all PVE. No matter who against you - this team extremely versatile. The main thing - after 3x "Recharge" you can stun the strongest, kill the weakest and clear the board from all bad tiles (if you made couple of purple matches). And if you use boosts - it can be made on turn 4. Another main thing - after first wave you get pack of charged tiles and it means that second wave is close.