Switchman wrote: I have 135 Loki 140 Hood 130 4Thor. I've been having about 50% defensive win success rate in Sim Shield fwiw. These are low HP chars and people probably think my Thor is undercovered since it's low level too so some of the wins have been coming from 94-115 lvl teams. I love playing Hood & Loki together with a heavy damage dealer. I rarely have to face any AI attacks besides an occasional LDaken 5ap attack. I'm anxious to 166 loki/hood to see how much of a def deterrent they can be.
WesFaram wrote: Who do you suspect is the better defensive deterrent: Loki or Hood?
WesFaram wrote: Who do you suspect is the better defensive deterrent: Loki or Hood? Also, if you collect 11 black AP, how does the computer decide on whether to use XF surgical strike or Loki trickery? Is it just a random 50/50 chance?
Phaserhawk wrote: WesFaram wrote: Who do you suspect is the better defensive deterrent: Loki or Hood? Also, if you collect 11 black AP, how does the computer decide on whether to use XF surgical strike or Loki trickery? Is it just a random 50/50 chance? It's a toss up. Hood slows you by obviously draining your AP, however Loki makes you change your play and his steal is not controllable like Hood, at least with him you can match colors to stop him from bleeding you, but Loki you can't dictate what he steals all you can do is try not to match 4. I'm more scared of Loki, because he completely changes the way you play, but I'm more annoyed with Hood because he just keeps bleeding you. My find. Loki is generally better for offense (doesn't tank yellow and blue like Hood too) and Hood seems to be a better defensive deterrant. To me you can still play around Loki and with Boosts smash him quickly with X-Force, but Hood could drain you of boosts first turn and the board could not be favorable. I find I win more games with Loki but lose more to Hood.
Phantron wrote: Switchman wrote: I have 135 Loki 140 Hood 130 4Thor. I've been having about 50% defensive win success rate in Sim Shield fwiw. These are low HP chars and people probably think my Thor is undercovered since it's low level too so some of the wins have been coming from 94-115 lvl teams. I love playing Hood & Loki together with a heavy damage dealer. I rarely have to face any AI attacks besides an occasional LDaken 5ap attack. I'm anxious to 166 loki/hood to see how much of a def deterrent they can be. If you have both of them you're just going to provoke whoever attacks you into boosting green and immediately X Force The Hood and then you have nothing left unless the featured character is exceptionally strong.
mageofshadow wrote: It's also probably worth mentioning that Which one you use differs depending on comp. I know xforce and 4thor together is the supreme being of MPQ atm but for some people who don't have both hood or loki might be better. For example I only have 4thor and Loki is infinitely better than hood for pvp for me because he is extremely good at making sure I always have a red or blue match to make with his purple and his passive helps slow things down for my enemies long enough to build the combo. if I boost b/p and r/y it is very rare that the enemy gets an ability off. Hood on the other hand stalls out and since I am heavily collecting blue + red I don't often steal those colors. I don't have a maxed xforce but I imagine that it is somewhat similar where you are just targeting g/b. On the other hand in simulator where you get to run xforce 4thor + hood/loki I would imagine hood might be better because you want to be collecting 4 colors at any given time which hood can supply easier than loki.
vudu3 wrote: I have mine leveled to 140. Here are his stats-- 5023 11 10 12 69 54 61 3.0x 36
Lerysh wrote: mageofshadow wrote: It's also probably worth mentioning that Which one you use differs depending on comp. I know xforce and 4thor together is the supreme being of MPQ atm but for some people who don't have both hood or loki might be better. For example I only have 4thor and Loki is infinitely better than hood for pvp for me because he is extremely good at making sure I always have a red or blue match to make with his purple and his passive helps slow things down for my enemies long enough to build the combo. if I boost b/p and r/y it is very rare that the enemy gets an ability off. Hood on the other hand stalls out and since I am heavily collecting blue + red I don't often steal those colors. I don't have a maxed xforce but I imagine that it is somewhat similar where you are just targeting g/b. On the other hand in simulator where you get to run xforce 4thor + hood/loki I would imagine hood might be better because you want to be collecting 4 colors at any given time which hood can supply easier than loki. Here is the problem with The Hood: He steals AP of colors you are not actively chasing. This typically winds up being Yellow and Purple every round with the occasional round of black thrown in. At least with Loki you can steal up to 8 AP every time they gain 8 AP, and even if it is random it's more likely to be in a color you want than Hood. Hood is great against Goons, where you can leave the 10 tiles up and collect a color from them every round until you have enough to match 3 and cast. Loki in contrast sucks against goons because they never match 4. Other than that one situation I see Loki as being better than Hood, and more aggravating to face so better defense as well.