mischiefmaker wrote: Sorry I missed posting yesterday's installment -- too busy trying to keep up with No Holds Barred retaliations, I guess. New installment is up! Two more to go, which should appear tomorrow and Wednesday, and then later this week I will do a wrap-up with some final thoughts.
Spoit wrote: I'm surprised people rated modern hawk that high.
soloL27 wrote: Spoit wrote: I'm surprised people rated modern hawk that high. Think I'm amongst those who rated modern hawk really highly. I do enjoy his playstyle - leave him enough AP and throw something thick in front to eat damage, modern hawk is a pain in the ****. The AI doesn't use him that well but i've seen 2 red and 2 blue on my own board before and damn that is hell painful. Long stuns and good AoE damage is good stuff, esp with the recent 'The Hunt' event. I've used him in PvP as well (and i don't mean top shot) and it works pretty well too, provided something else soaks damage happily (wolvie,spidey,daken? I used wolv myself.)
bongo king wrote: I'm supprised that IM40 is in the top 8
DumDumDugn wrote: Wow Grey widow 6th behind thor and wolv? Awful. Shame on you, voters =[
synthorange wrote: No prizes for guessing the top three here. Two are major pains in the ****, but I have never seen a Classic Magneto in the wild, outside of Lightning Rounds.
soenottelling wrote: DumDumDugn wrote: Wow Grey widow 6th behind thor and wolv? Awful. Shame on you, voters =[ What is the premise of the ratings? Overall? PvP if nobody was boosted? PvP only but taking into consideration boosts and how often those boosted events occur? It makes a large difference. She certainly isn't top 5 material if its "all things considered" because she really needs a battery to help her, she has low hp, she isn't usually boosted, she works best with rag and nobody likes that guy, she is a joke on defense, and her synergy overall isn't great because everything she does rolls into her green which means she is pigeonholed into certain team configurations based around her. Compared with the versatility of wolv/thor, how easy they are to obtain, how often they are boosted, ISO cost to reach "good," damage output, etc.. its really no question who is higher.
DumDumDugn wrote: soenottelling wrote: DumDumDugn wrote: Wow Grey widow 6th behind thor and wolv? Awful. Shame on you, voters =[ What is the premise of the ratings? Overall? PvP if nobody was boosted? PvP only but taking into consideration boosts and how often those boosted events occur? It makes a large difference. She certainly isn't top 5 material if its "all things considered" because she really needs a battery to help her, she has low hp, she isn't usually boosted, she works best with rag and nobody likes that guy, she is a joke on defense, and her synergy overall isn't great because everything she does rolls into her green which means she is pigeonholed into certain team configurations based around her. Compared with the versatility of wolv/thor, how easy they are to obtain, how often they are boosted, ISO cost to reach "good," damage output, etc.. its really no question who is higher. I'm talking end game meta, she is the 2nd most important character in the game as far as being able to shoot up the leaderboards.
_fulu_ wrote: DumDumDugn wrote: soenottelling wrote: DumDumDugn wrote: Wow Grey widow 6th behind thor and wolv? Awful. Shame on you, voters =[ What is the premise of the ratings? Overall? PvP if nobody was boosted? PvP only but taking into consideration boosts and how often those boosted events occur? It makes a large difference. She certainly isn't top 5 material if its "all things considered" because she really needs a battery to help her, she has low hp, she isn't usually boosted, she works best with rag and nobody likes that guy, she is a joke on defense, and her synergy overall isn't great because everything she does rolls into her green which means she is pigeonholed into certain team configurations based around her. Compared with the versatility of wolv/thor, how easy they are to obtain, how often they are boosted, ISO cost to reach "good," damage output, etc.. its really no question who is higher. I'm talking end game meta, she is the 2nd most important character in the game as far as being able to shoot up the leaderboards. She is useful, sure, but Wolvie drops teams nearly (not as, but not way slower) as fast paired with rags, and cab at least contribute to defense. Widows AI is awful on defense and I love fighting her. I HATE if i get feral clawed a few times. Punisher with 21 black also does 3k damage to the enemy team, but isn't fed by rags.
_fulu_ wrote: The 6 red and the 3 green you get for all ap boost, yeah. Sometimes you have to match a couple red or green, but the games almost never take more than a minute, depending on cascades. Widow is probably a little faster depending on the matches you get from thunderclaps. My point is both are good, and I value Wolvie just a little bit more personally.