Lyrian wrote: I think its possible for Hailstorm to do 2000/round and here's why.
WolfmanX25 wrote: Riggy wrote: And the only balancing that they've done and kept pure AP reduction in the ability was IW's Invisibility. Perhaps that was before they had a clear purpose in how ability leveling should work. To be fair, how else are you going to improve Invisibility? Make her more invisible? I guess she could create 1-5 invisibility tiles, but having to get rid of 5 tiles feels like it would be too strong.
Riggy wrote: And the only balancing that they've done and kept pure AP reduction in the ability was IW's Invisibility. Perhaps that was before they had a clear purpose in how ability leveling should work.
Phantron wrote: Her offense is going to be superb but that's why she's in the lowest HP class. If not for the two guys with way too much HP that also do way too much damage, she'd be pretty balanced overall. I'd say she's much better designed than The Hood, the other character in the same HP class. She's going to pack a huge punch but you can still deal with her if you're careful. I think Storm/Daken/Sentry could make some interesting overkill, like Mistress of the Storm followed by World Rupture + Sacrifice and see how many of the 16 CDs the other side can defuse. It's probably not a great team but overkill is fun!
Phaserhawk wrote: Phantron wrote: Her offense is going to be superb but that's why she's in the lowest HP class. If not for the two guys with way too much HP that also do way too much damage, she'd be pretty balanced overall. I'd say she's much better designed than The Hood, the other character in the same HP class. She's going to pack a huge punch but you can still deal with her if you're careful. I think Storm/Daken/Sentry could make some interesting overkill, like Mistress of the Storm followed by World Rupture + Sacrifice and see how many of the 16 CDs the other side can defuse. It's probably not a great team but overkill is fun! I'm not sure Daken plays well with Storm due to the tile destruction, but, who knows. Where you will see a lot of Storm is if there is a lot of Sentry. Hailstorm counters World Rupture. They will require roughly the same matches. WR at 8, Hs at 9. If Mistress of the Elements doesn't see an AP drop, which I do not think it will, then a maxed hailstorm that covers half the board in attack tiles is gonna be mega powerful. With the amount of dmg L.Storm will kick out, is the reason why i think MotE stays at 9, so there is no forest abuse, clear the forest tiles, activate enviorment, get the AP right back
scottee wrote: Oh man, it just came to me in the shower. Finally, the perfect defensive team. Mohawk/Hood/OBW. The ultimate AP generation/steal team. Almost perfect rainbow, with the only overlap being black, both of which don't matter as much. Who do you target first? If the AI gets 9 red, 8 purple, or 10 green before you get a kill, it's basically over. And that's with Hood stealing AP. AND if OBW gets 9 blue, you're set back 1228 damage. I can see this team looking like an easy win, but generating a lot of defensive victories.
Lyrian wrote: Phaserhawk wrote: Phantron wrote: Her offense is going to be superb but that's why she's in the lowest HP class. If not for the two guys with way too much HP that also do way too much damage, she'd be pretty balanced overall. I'd say she's much better designed than The Hood, the other character in the same HP class. She's going to pack a huge punch but you can still deal with her if you're careful. I think Storm/Daken/Sentry could make some interesting overkill, like Mistress of the Storm followed by World Rupture + Sacrifice and see how many of the 16 CDs the other side can defuse. It's probably not a great team but overkill is fun! I'm not sure Daken plays well with Storm due to the tile destruction, but, who knows. Where you will see a lot of Storm is if there is a lot of Sentry. Hailstorm counters World Rupture. They will require roughly the same matches. WR at 8, Hs at 9. If Mistress of the Elements doesn't see an AP drop, which I do not think it will, then a maxed hailstorm that covers half the board in attack tiles is gonna be mega powerful. With the amount of dmg L.Storm will kick out, is the reason why i think MotE stays at 9, so there is no forest abuse, clear the forest tiles, activate enviorment, get the AP right back Pretty much this. I commented on this on the thread over in General. The TL;DR version is that with an epicly small health pool in age of crazy damage abilities and inflated health pools, for L.Storm to warrant as a GOLD character 4350 HP, she must generate a mindboggling amounts of damage. Call the Storm? Yawn. Sentry has the power of a million exploding suns? Whatever. Those two possess giant health pools. What do you actually think a character with HALF the health pool will generate as damage potential, that L.Storm must be balanced by the fact that she can be one-shotted (or all but one shotted) at 141 by most current-gen abilities (with a strike tile)? That is a truly scary thought to ponder. Consider much damage that HT puts out and that he has a larger health pool than her. Thus, she should be expected to outdamage him. HT's red does 2900 for 8AP (returns 2 red). For 9 AP, L.Storm should return comparable damage. Black is potentially truly nightmarish though. 32 tiles times a large number every round equals annihilation. Looking at the starting values for the 1* and 3*** cards for her, her starting values as a 3*** are 4 times her 1* version. Given that in general, lazy characters tend to scale in the same fashion as their lower tier counterparts and the potential for almost 3 times the leveling potential, there could very well be easily potential to scale on a factor of 10x her 1* version. That would mean for black: 32 * (10 * 7) = 32 * 70 = 2240/round (albeit with all the limitations of the 1* black, such as tiles being cleared over time - yet who will live long enough to do so?). Red could easily do 300-400 per EAP tile, which would mean with a EAP favorable board, massive damage could ensure. I would consider her red to be in the same boat as CMags Translocation. In the end, although she has the same abilities as her 1* incarnation, she is looking like she is being tuned to be a pure glass cannon and to make the Green/Red tactic as undesirable as possible.
Moon 17 wrote: scottee wrote: Oh man, it just came to me in the shower. Finally, the perfect defensive team. Mohawk/Hood/OBW. The ultimate AP generation/steal team. Almost perfect rainbow, with the only overlap being black, both of which don't matter as much. Who do you target first? If the AI gets 9 red, 8 purple, or 10 green before you get a kill, it's basically over. And that's with Hood stealing AP. AND if OBW gets 9 blue, you're set back 1228 damage. I can see this team looking like an easy win, but generating a lot of defensive victories. Someone pointed this out in another thread, but it's worth mentioning: If your opponent's team has only one real source of damage, and that character has less total health than both OBW and Hood, you can always just kill off the dangerous character first and leave Hood and OBW for last. After you tear through Storm's 4300 hit points, you're facing a team that can, at most, hit you with Intimidation while denying your AP.
Chimaera wrote: I think we are all missing something very important. You can now run the all Mohawk team in pvp. Lazy Storm, Lazy Daken and Ares with the mohawk helmet. Clearly this is too good and needs to be nerfed.
Bacon Pants wrote: Chimaera wrote: I think we are all missing something very important. You can now run the all Mohawk team in pvp. Lazy Storm, Lazy Daken and Ares with the mohawk helmet. Clearly this is too good and needs to be nerfed. Team Mohawk!! Also, I hope this is the last Lazy character they release.
dragonsroc wrote: Don't strike tiles trigger for every attack tile? So if you use storm's black to make 20 attack tiles, it'll trigger the strike tiles 20 times? In which case, storm+daken+green sink(ares) would actually be good. Team mohawk wouldn't just be a gimmick.
Lyrian wrote: Bacon Pants wrote: Chimaera wrote: I think we are all missing something very important. You can now run the all Mohawk team in pvp. Lazy Storm, Lazy Daken and Ares with the mohawk helmet. Clearly this is too good and needs to be nerfed. Team Mohawk!! Also, I hope this is the last Lazy character they release. No way.... you KNOW you're secretly craving that 3*** Yelena....
Ghast wrote: Was GSBW originally called (****)?