Marvel Puzzle Quest: Character Rebalances - Batch #1

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  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 7,815 Chairperson of the Boards

    @DAZ0273 said:
    Cable is much better since his rebalance, that green is a monster.

    I LOVE characters that punish you for using the loaner, or dragging along a low level buffer. Cable hits your team for a 200k AoE turn0 if you're using the loaner. If you're using Iron May it's like 170k.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 7,815 Chairperson of the Boards

    Actually, here's a fun one: give us a character with a power that does AoE damage equal to the difference in HP between the (non-downed) enemies' highest and lowest maximum HP.

    It'd need to be super cheap, because it wouldn't have a ton of use after the first cast. You could even make it a start-of-game passive, and it wouldn't be overpowered!

    It's totally worthless in PvE and against lots of PvP teams, but it'd be a great tool to have for those loaner/Iron May/672 Juggernaut teams that seem to be everywhere.

  • Borstock
    Borstock Posts: 3,155 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Bustapup said:

    @Borstock said:
    Shang isn't even THAT fast against teams with a defense buff. I literally can't remember the last time I lost to a Shang-Chi team. (yes, I know that's them on defense and not really what eb is talking about)

    You give Shang fantasticar with may and you can lose on turn one lol

    If you bring the right defense, and have a roster as strong as mine, nothing but the most absurd mThor+Shang support fueled nonsense is going to even be a threat.

    Plus, I can beat that team turn 0, if I have to. Shang can't hurt me if he doesn't get a turn.

  • Bustapup
    Bustapup Posts: 303 Mover and Shaker
    edited 4 November 2025, 17:06

    @entrailbucket said:
    The boosted character you want this week is Cable!

    At 9AP his green can be fired off supports, and against a typical PvP team with a low level essential and some unboosted characters, it can end the game turn0.

    Coulson is also pretty awesome, but everybody knew that. A turn0 Cable green into 5 Coulson CDs the next turn will kill almost anything.

    Yeah my cable is one cover short from max and I keep coming up against a level 600+ who kills me on turn one with all his free green AP from the usual suspects and then a buff from May :(

  • Bustapup
    Bustapup Posts: 303 Mover and Shaker

    So have all those buffs been implemented yet? If so, any info on the adjustments? I'm interested to see what they do with Peggy

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 7,815 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Bustapup said:
    So have all those buffs been implemented yet? If so, any info on the adjustments? I'm interested to see what they do with Peggy

    Just numbers changes. She's better -- I tried her out at 672 and she wasn't awful -- but she's still not good or anything.

  • Bustapup
    Bustapup Posts: 303 Mover and Shaker

    @entrailbucket said:

    @Bustapup said:
    So have all those buffs been implemented yet? If so, any info on the adjustments? I'm interested to see what they do with Peggy

    Just numbers changes. She's better -- I tried her out at 672 and she wasn't awful -- but she's still not good or anything.

    Bleugh they need to change her abilities....no point letting her create protect tiles only for them to get a bit of (inadequate) damage reduction and replace them with strike.

    The idea is ok but in practice it's just useless

  • WhiteBomber
    WhiteBomber Posts: 861 Critical Contributor

    I actually kiiinda like PegThor now... :grimace: She's definitely not top tier, but you can at least run her for fun now (if you're bored). If they increased the damage reduction on her yellow, she would be uh-mazing (missed opportunities).

    I've been in the lab a lot lately and looking over some numbers. Not100%, but I'm pretty sure Pepper owns the yellow that gives you the strongest protects now (almost 10k as soon as you champ her). Combined with her passive heal, she can be quite fun defensively.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 7,815 Chairperson of the Boards

    @WhiteBomber said:
    I actually kiiinda like PegThor now... :grimace: She's definitely not top tier, but you can at least run her for fun now (if you're bored). If they increased the damage reduction on her yellow, she would be uh-mazing (missed opportunities).

    I've been in the lab a lot lately and looking over some numbers. Not100%, but I'm pretty sure Pepper owns the yellow that gives you the strongest protects now (almost 10k as soon as you champ her). Combined with her passive heal, she can be quite fun defensively.

    Pepper was in PvE today and I was pretty shocked by some of the stuff she was getting up to.

    I think they just increased all her numbers but I think they might be really high now!

  • MegaBee
    MegaBee Posts: 1,322 Chairperson of the Boards

    @entrailbucket said:

    @WhiteBomber said:
    I actually kiiinda like PegThor now... :grimace: She's definitely not top tier, but you can at least run her for fun now (if you're bored). If they increased the damage reduction on her yellow, she would be uh-mazing (missed opportunities).

    I've been in the lab a lot lately and looking over some numbers. Not100%, but I'm pretty sure Pepper owns the yellow that gives you the strongest protects now (almost 10k as soon as you champ her). Combined with her passive heal, she can be quite fun defensively.

    Pepper was in PvE today and I was pretty shocked by some of the stuff she was getting up to.

    I think they just increased all her numbers but I think they might be really high now!

    Pepper hits like a dang truck now.

  • Bustapup
    Bustapup Posts: 303 Mover and Shaker
    edited 5 November 2025, 00:16

    I think Pegs pairs well with Avalon and Captain Britain but I've not tested it enough yet. It's sorta a dream team until I ascend psylocke to run Team Braddock!

    Edit: I just tried it against Namor, M'Baku and Chasm. Forgot to equip my snack cart and died turn one 😭😭

  • WhiteBomber
    WhiteBomber Posts: 861 Critical Contributor
    edited 5 November 2025, 00:14

    I'll be updating the countering meta thread soon with multiple updates (I think?), but coincidentally, since we were talking about Sammernaught and Pepper, here she is starting the match with much protecting:

    https://youtube.com/shorts/JNJSBFaQjdk?si=J4RFV-I6EbOo1ba0

    I am not saying this is the best team for any one thing, but it is fun, medium speed and can safely shut a decent amount. Sammernaught specifically doesn't like this anti-team damage team due to stealing SAPs as well as AP and protect gen.

    • Pepper5 w/ Cart so you don't get stunned
    • BRB5 w/ OmniCity (did you know if you start with enough AP the City SAPs trigger immediately?)
    • DarkVeil4 2/ Krakoa (guaranteed 7 yellow start)

    BRB can be swapped out for others like Electro, Wong etc.

  • Bustapup
    Bustapup Posts: 303 Mover and Shaker
    edited 5 November 2025, 01:18

    If pepper creates that strong a tile and uses Avalon with lower health or HaAgatha to boost every turn that's Gona be strong defence!

    With Avalon spamming protect tiles as well that's healing each turn too! Guess I better build pepper!

    I think HagAtha is the best counter for SammerNaught though as she not only creates and strengthens protect tiles very quickly but she overwrites Sam's tiles.

  • WhiteBomber
    WhiteBomber Posts: 861 Critical Contributor
    edited 5 November 2025, 01:31

    I favorited Pepper and gave her ISO just to do this. She can be good now, in the right scenarios. Avalon is likely stupid good, I have some ideas with him also, but haven't favorited him yet.

    Sammernaught can be trivially shut down by multiple teams, not all the fastet, but there are some that do pretty well and always leave you healthy.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 7,815 Chairperson of the Boards

    @WhiteBomber said:
    I favorited Pepper and gave her ISO just to do this. She can be good now, in the right scenarios. Avalon is likely stupid good, I have some ideas with him also, but haven't favorited him yet.

    Sammernaught can be trivially shut down by multiple teams, not all the fastet, but there are some that do pretty well and always leave you healthy.

    I'm still looking for a team they can't beat! I know that's not something you are worried about at all, but you might be on to something here with the newer protect tile people.

  • WhiteBomber
    WhiteBomber Posts: 861 Critical Contributor
    edited 5 November 2025, 02:38

    @entrailbucket said:

    @WhiteBomber said:
    I favorited Pepper and gave her ISO just to do this. She can be good now, in the right scenarios. Avalon is likely stupid good, I have some ideas with him also, but haven't favorited him yet.

    Sammernaught can be trivially shut down by multiple teams, not all the fastet, but there are some that do pretty well and always leave you healthy.

    I'm still looking for a team they can't beat! I know that's not something you are worried about at all, but you might be on to something here with the newer protect tile people.

    Yeah, at your level the protects likely start around 30k on turn 1...

    Whenever you have some minutes, there are some things I would love for you to test with your crazy roster.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 7,815 Chairperson of the Boards

    @WhiteBomber said:

    @entrailbucket said:

    @WhiteBomber said:
    I favorited Pepper and gave her ISO just to do this. She can be good now, in the right scenarios. Avalon is likely stupid good, I have some ideas with him also, but haven't favorited him yet.

    Sammernaught can be trivially shut down by multiple teams, not all the fastet, but there are some that do pretty well and always leave you healthy.

    I'm still looking for a team they can't beat! I know that's not something you are worried about at all, but you might be on to something here with the newer protect tile people.

    Yeah, at your level the protects likely start around 30k on turn 1...

    Whenever you have some minutes, there are some things I would love for you to test with your crazy roster.

    PM me, I'd love to help.

  • bluewolf
    bluewolf Posts: 6,693 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited 8 November 2025, 06:25

    This may be a dumb question but the Tower boosts everyone on the list and adds 1BW, 3Hulk and 4Wasp. And maybe 1BW was this strong before, but unboosted my 550 does 102k at 5 covers in yellow. And I’m wondering if that’s gone up or I just missed something before.

    I’m not sure about wasp and hulk. Like maybe nothing changed. Is it possible: did the devs buff these 3 and not tell us?

  • Grantosium
    Grantosium Posts: 122 Tile Toppler

    Please let the next nerf be Iron May. I'm literally seeing her in every team on my SHIELD Sim queue.

    A 3a4 shouldn't be meta, especially if they're a character that was supposed to be a joke.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 7,815 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Grantosium said:
    Please let the next nerf be Iron May. I'm literally seeing her in every team on my SHIELD Sim queue.

    A 3a4 shouldn't be meta, especially if they're a character that was supposed to be a joke.

    She's so easy to fix, while preserving her usability to lower tier players. Instead of changing her buff percentages as you ascend her, change them based on what tier of character she's buffing.

    It seems clear that was what they were trying to do with her, but they ended up creating an incentive to keep her lower level forever.

    I do think they absolutely need to fix her before big Galactuses start running around, because she'll be brutal with him.